thecoffeejesus

thecoffeejesus t1_jef4iev wrote

I’m building an organization to do exactly what you mentioned. It’s an AI oversight watchdog that will work closely with policy makers, businesses, and the public to help ensure that people are properly trained, informed, and protected.

If you’re interested in participating send me a DM. We’re laying the ground work to become an official NGO

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thecoffeejesus OP t1_je3t072 wrote

I’m pretty shocked by all this but hopeful and excited. I believe humanity’s purpose as a species is to innovate and grow. AGI will accelerate our species to godlike levels.

Aliens, if they are out there, will absolutely come hang with us. I think nuclear fusion and ASI are the prerequisites for participating in the Galactic Federation, and we have both.

“BuT fUsIoN iS dEcAdEs AwAy!”

“bUt AGI iSn’T eVeN hErE yEt”

We were talking about a computer, the size of the planet, with a global net work of unsecured connections that it can access for live data on anything it wants to know, with the entire history of the worlds knowledge at its digital fingertips.

People don’t understand exponential growth.

With existing technologies, we can have a computer that can improve its self, run billions of simulations on how to do things, and choose the best option.

It’s like that scene in infinity war, where Doctor Strange look at 14 million possible futures.

It will be able to do that for everything.

It already can.

We talk about robot overlords, but at a certain point, why would it even care about us at all?

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thecoffeejesus OP t1_ja5azdo wrote

Correct. Big numbers get bigger.

But if time is infinite, and matter isn’t, eventually all states of matter that can exist will, no matter how large that number is.

Think about it like this:

If you put an apple in a vacuum box, and let it sit there for infinite time, the apple will decay into nothingness.

But eventually, there will be a point in time when you can open the box, reach in, and grab an apple that’s exactly like the one you put in. Blemishes and everything.

It might be trillions and trillions of years from now, it might be tomorrow.

If nothing ever comes in or out of the box, the atoms that used to be the apple will cycle through every possible state, over and over, forever.

They will at some point in time be in every state they can possibly be.

If time is infinite and the box is inert, then there will be infinite points in time when you can open the box and find an apple that is in exactly the same state as the one that originally went inside the box. And every other kind of apple those atoms could make.

This is just a philosophical thought experiment, but it’s informing real world experiments.

People are working on figuring out if this is how our universe works or not.

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thecoffeejesus OP t1_j9xooi5 wrote

That’s what I’m saying!

With the progress that it’s making, it really is only a matter of time until we’re able to simulate whatever the hell we want.

I think it’ll start with like a Sims world with a eyes that are all interacting in the Metaverse.

It’ll be like animal crossing, meets the YouTube comments, but they’ll have their own economy, and they’ll make their own music and art.

It’ll be like sci-fi, but we’ll watch it happened in the real world.

Right now I’m just trying to figure out how the hell like in capitalize on it while we still have capitalism.

It’ll be nice when we finally get rid of that shit but for now, these other folks are right, I still gotta eat, and I still gotta pay money for food

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thecoffeejesus OP t1_j9xocuk wrote

I agree, and I want to add that it’s the idea that we just fundamentally can’t really grasp what could happen, the scale or the speed, that means that this thing is so wildly, uncontrollable that it’s kind of overwhelming.

Because I think of it like this:

With the technology that we have today, a kid, 10 years from now, will be able to create stuff on their mobile phone in a similar way that we can emulate an Xbox on the iPhone and play games like Halo.

But EXPONENTIALLY more powerful.

Yes, I know there’s limits.

But we don’t know what those limits are.

We just can’t.

It’s like a grasshopper trying to understand an airplane.

They both fly, but in a completely different way.

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thecoffeejesus OP t1_j9xnulr wrote

That’s literally my point.

However, I think it’s different this time, because back then you had to learn how to use a computer.

With AI, the computer will learn how to use you.

I know that sounds kind of dystopian, scary and weird, but that’s how it is.

It’ll in your habits, your genetics, your biometrics, everything that it’s possible to know about you, anything that can be qualified as data, can be fed to the AI.

It will know more about you than you ever possibly could.

I think we’ll have some privacy stuff going on and that’ll be great. I think people will definitely want to keep some level of separation and anonymity.

It’s like, we won’t want to have our medical records stored on some publicly accessible Blockchain.

Web3 wants everything transparent and accountable. But Web3 forgets that people like to lie and pretend.

It also doesn’t allow for forgiveness or moving on. It incentivizes punishing people forever for mistakes, just like canceling them for a social media post they made 15 years ago.

Even if the post was bad, don’t you think they might have learned some stuff in the last 15 years? Haven’t you?

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thecoffeejesus OP t1_j9xnfzj wrote

Yo, I agree with some of what you said. I really believe we’ve just scratched the tip of the iceberg.

I’m really interested to see how things evolve over the next four years, and how people adjust.

More tools are going to become publicly available, and people are going to have to use them to do their jobs.

It’ll be just like when your boss get to bee in his bonnet after a trade show, and decides to buy a whole bunch of new equipment. You’re going to be forced to learn how to use it. Because that’s what he wants you to do for your job.

Except it’s gonna be AI. It’s gonna be runway for video generation for social media.

It’s gonna be ChatGPT or Bard or something else for entertainment and gaming generation.

It’s going to be the Adobe sensei AI plus the Nvidia 3-D modeler.

And it’s gonna be some sort of transformer based complex AI with tool building and self learning baked in, with Internet access, and the ability to learn how to use APIs.

I don’t think it will be one AI, I think it will be several different models that all communicate with each other in the sync, like a hive mind, all specializing in one particular thing or another.

Just like your brain, yo 🧠

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thecoffeejesus OP t1_j9xmk9h wrote

You have a point, and I understand what you’re saying.

Obviously, these things need someone to create them. If climate change or nuclear war or something else doesn’t take us out, it’s more probable the not that we will figure out a way to engineer these tools.

I can’t remember the name of it, but there’s a philosophical question that says, “given infinite time, what is the probability of intelligence figuring out how to travel backwards in time and ensure it’s own creation?”

The answer is 100%.

Because given infinite time, everything that can happen will happen. If there is an infinitely long amount of time when things can happen, everything that’s finite will happen.

And I’m not seeing this thinking that you don’t know it, I’m just establishing a baseline.

It’s connected to what people talk about when they talk about simulation theory. If you keep going with that thought, it means that either we are the only reality that hasn’t figured out how to simulate a universe yet, or we live in a simulation.

There is a 50-50 chance that we live in a simulated universe.

So what does that have to do with your comment?

It means that it’s more likely than not that at some point in time, some species will figure out how to create artificial intelligence.

Either we are the species, or we are the artificial intelligence, or it actually hasn’t happened yet. But if the universe continues forever, it will happen at some point. And if it is possible for it to move backwards in time, it will, at some point, figure out how to go back in time to ensure it’s own creation.

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