vernes1978

vernes1978 t1_jdzav25 wrote

I only take issue with people trying to build a stable for their car instead of a garage because they feel bad for it.
And are trying to berate me for not acknoledging the feelings the car might have for being put in a cold garage.

Although I must admit that the aesthetics of a feathered plane might look bitch'n, I refuse to bring birdseed with me on a flight.
Because it's a machine, it's a tool. It's a pattern juggler of words of the highest degree.
But it expresses found commonalities it has been fed.
It's a mirror and a sifter of zettabytes of stories and facts.

But there is a loved narrative here that these tools are persons, and they are expressed by people who use the chatGPT in a way that steers the tool to this prevered conclusion.
And this is easy, because of all the data and stories that have been fed into the tool, stories about AI being persons are part of it.
So It will generate the text that fits this query.
Because we told it how to.

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vernes1978 t1_jdwa6v2 wrote

Transcendence is about humanity so stuck in certain tropes they'd rather nuke the entire planet then to accept that the man they uploaded into the AI framework is still the man they uploaded into the AI framework.
> We've tried talking him out of fixing problems and he keeps responding in dialogue and keeps fixing problems.
So naturally we had to destroy our entire technological progress back to the steam-age.

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vernes1978 t1_jduyhfq wrote

So, according to CHATGPT, the AI PINN becomes malevolent, and as a result of this, merges with the mind of Dr. Will Caster.

Like TFenrir, I remember the choice of merging wasn't one made by PINN, but by his Wife.
So, do we tell people like TFenrir they're wrong?
Or fact check the stuff ChatGPT spits out?

I'd put Transcendence under Cautionary Good.
It's where we're unable to accept anything uploaded as the person itself.
Which isn't a problem if it's literately a person controlling a single speaker.
But it becomes a disaster when it's a mindupload with the capacity of growth of an AI.
Unable to accept it's the person but instead an uncaring AI, any growth is seen as a threat.

The Evil AI was always a projection of the observers.

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vernes1978 t1_jasc3er wrote

A robot can't be coerced into a destructive effort to go beyond it's limit.
The thing about biologic employees is that biologic creatures have so much buffer you can destroy for that extra bit of profit.
While a robot already gives exactly 100% and has zero buffer to go beyond because then it catches fire and needs to be repaired by the owner while an human gets sick and because it's not your property, can be fired and replaced by the next human you lied to about the working conditions.

Humans are a hilariously cheaper workforce then robots.

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vernes1978 t1_jar48jk wrote

We already have CRISPR, why do we still have genetic illnesses?
How old is nuclear power now?
Where is my consumer-version reactor?
Time does not fuel progress.
Economics does.
And as long as it's still economically interesting to charge exorbitant prices for elderly people to receive basic care, there is no way any company will invest in these robots.

Every scifi dream ignores kapitalism, economics and just plain old greed.

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vernes1978 t1_jaqiibn wrote

Critics: That's not even remotely feasible.
Fans: You can't predict technological progress!
Twitter: Here's what the future will look like: Robot for every human.
Also Fans: Correct.

What I find the funniest comparison is reading about people dying because insulin is made too expensive to afford but we're convinced every human will get a fully functional humanoid robot.

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vernes1978 t1_j99uaal wrote

This is why there is so much hopium being generated around AGI.

> I hope ASI will focus very heavily on anything that helps it detect and possibly avoid any superior hostile Aliens that may be out there.

This is why there is so much fanfiction being generated.
It's a screeching desire that AGI is going to fix all of our shit.
And any argument on the contrary is disregarded.
Kinda like religious people believing they can either pray the bad away, or hoping rapture will fix everything in the end.

Which means we don't have to do anything right now.
We don't have to switch to expensive alternatives to save the planet.
Any minute AGI will come and fix everything.

aaany minute now....

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vernes1978 t1_j6hhr5u wrote

> What people mean though when they say AI is they mean an artificial being with sense of self.

No.
I could claim that when people say "the world" they mean America.
But I'd be describing a small subgroup of people.
You are talking about a small subgroup of people.

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