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BobbyRobertson t1_ixzh8fd wrote
Yes but how many cops have a 'getting run over by a car' kink?
kingwi11 t1_ixzumyr wrote
About 40%
Obedfer11 t1_iy15cg9 wrote
To find out more Google "40% of police officers"
Distinct-Ad5751 t1_iy1g912 wrote
…”beat their wives.”
Triscuitador t1_iy1n51l wrote
spoilers!
SSoviet_Slayer t1_iy35usp wrote
Boom
Triscuitador t1_iy1n3x3 wrote
you have to win the race first
GoPikachuGo1 t1_ixzqunx wrote
Barber: What kind of haircut you want?
This mope: Gimme' that Sideshow Bob look.
Barber: Say no more fam.
swampyankee22 t1_ixzvrv2 wrote
Uh oh, another honeypot for people who can't deal with ambiguity!
Remember folks, two things can be true at the same time:
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"Dragging" is phony police talk for "the cop grabbed the door handle when the guy started to flee." They always make it sound worse than it is!
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The suspect is (allegedly) an illegal drag racer who endangers the lives of all around him, and then tries to avoid accountability. He is the one in the wrong!
Internet echo chambers make people slaves of polarization. If you can interpret multiple angles, then congratulations! You are in the majority and you improve the quality of the body politic.
Darondo t1_iy0qu1m wrote
A shitty modded sedan nearly t-boned my fiancée and I as we were approaching an intersection with a solidly green light in Winsted last night. Fucker blew a red without even slowing down. Thank goodness were were vigilant enough to see it coming and slam the brakes. The douchebag he was racing came to a screeching halt as well.
Fuck people that race on public roads. Give them all harsh sentences. Anyone who does that is a selfish, garbage human, and it’s a matter of time til they murder someone.
Grateful the cops did something about this racer in the article.
slipperyrock4 t1_iy0cmwl wrote
Nuanced takes are illegal on the internet. Everything in life is objectively good or bad with nothing in between. Oh an there has to be a good guy and a bad guy in every story. It’s too confusing otherwise.
Tonydildos t1_iy1i0ur wrote
Not really sure what you’re trying to say here. Cops didn’t write this article. Someone from whio (literally never heard of this news group) did.
Street racing is bad and cops are too a lot of the time, but if someone grabs your door and you keep driving, cop or not, you’re probably not a good person.
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BryanCalens2ndFamily t1_iy1xg8w wrote
Yeah, you can roll 2mph and brush a cop and it’s attempted murder lolz .
Nyrfan2017 t1_ixzstcx wrote
Love all the posts bashing cop for holding door instead of bashing the ass hat that was fleeing … just keep victimizing the people breaking the law .
NaDuLaNDo t1_iy11x4s wrote
Because this is the land of internet warriors.
Dorkknight112183 t1_iy1msfe wrote
Your talking mighty dangerously for Reddit my friend. Tread lightly, they don’t take kindly to “common sense” talk.
This_River t1_iy1pl8d wrote
The liberal bot echo chamber is a force to be reckoned with.
TreeEleben t1_ixzwf84 wrote
They're both incredibly stupid. One should be in handcuffs, the other in an unemployment line.
imightbemichael t1_iy0dvf2 wrote
The cop should be in an UNEMPLOYMENT LINE for holding onto the handle for a split second too long? Lmfao I’m gonna leave you to think about that whole line of reasoning
SSoviet_Slayer t1_iy36d0s wrote
If it wasn’t long enough then don’t say the kid dragged you on the report
Knineteen t1_ixz8raa wrote
Misunderstood youth. Right?
ovrhere_ t1_ixzfe1h wrote
What are you saying here? Is somebody making this argument?
osrs_kwanoo t1_ixztb5f wrote
The argument has been made in the past for other incidents, and this person is joking a similar argument will be made for this one.
ovrhere_ t1_iy0iq4e wrote
I guess those other incidents are what I'm asking about. Who's making this argument? It seems like kind of a strawman for people who point to social conditions as a reason for crime.
SomaCityWard t1_iy175on wrote
Knineteen is the resident right wing troll. His dogwhistles aren't very subtle.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixziwh5 wrote
For anyone who was born yesterday "dragging" is cop talk for "holding on to a moving vehicle."
>Troopers then grabbed ahold of the driver’s side door handle and again instructed the accused to stop. The accused then accelerated, dragging the trooper for a short distance, before attempting to exit the lot.
kingwi11 t1_ixzuzxn wrote
Why wouldn't the officer let go of the door once the car started moving. That seems really unsafe
laceyourbootsup t1_iy0l7s5 wrote
Dragging is a term that the media is using for you to click on the article. The police officer let go. The criminal is under arrest for violating motor vehicle racing requirements, reckless driving, disobeying the signal of an officer, engaging police in pursuit, illegally striking an officer with a motor vehicle, illegal racing on a highway, interfering with officer/resisting arrest, second-degree breach of peace and second-degree reckless endangerment
Kel4597 t1_iy15idq wrote
Imagine, for a moment, the car is stopped and you grab the door handle. The guy accelerates. Instinctively, when things we’re holding onto try to get away from us, we tighten our grip as a reflect, not a conscious decision.
Cop probably reflexively tightened his grip and then let go shortly after.
Not that literally any of that matters. It’s not like this was the ONLY charge this guy is getting and the sole reason he was arrested.
Tonydildos t1_iy1i8bf wrote
Probably thought the guy would eventually stop. So the options are let go now and break a bunch of bones or hold on and maybe I’ll be ok lol
Triscuitador t1_iy1nvqa wrote
you have those outcomes backwards lol
draftcrunk t1_ixzxtqp wrote
When power tripping goes wrong …
They are not known for their intelligence.
haystackofneedles t1_iy0dzbd wrote
He's a police officer... they're not known for their extensive schooling and common sense
tdigren t1_iy0kram wrote
That’s incredibly inaccurate.
haystackofneedles t1_iy0ler6 wrote
Pretty accurate
tdigren t1_iy0ljef wrote
Sure.
Rhyxnathotho t1_iy0wpnb wrote
> A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Big_Dinner3636 t1_iy1jgpe wrote
A 22 year old article about one department and your own source says officers have an above average IQ. Great citing.
tdigren t1_iy0yvbn wrote
I really like that 22 year old article. At that time the famous Rodney King beating was only 9 years old. In those 9 years, policing changed. In the 22 years since this article, policing again, has changed.
Rhyxnathotho t1_iy13icc wrote
Even though it’s from 20 years ago, this decision was never overturned. It is still the law according to the courts.
> The somewhat sensationalized idea that police academies and departments don’t allow people with high IQs into the force occasionally pops up in debates around police reform. And though the belief is not entirely accurate, it’s not wrong either. There is no official or universal bar or cutoff for IQ squares across the nation, but in at least some states, it is legal for police departments to reject applicants who score "too high" on intelligence tests.
> some states, including Illinois, New Jersey and North Dakota, require officers to have completed at least two years of college education or an equivalent. These states are also all in the bottom 11 of those with the lowest number of police killings.
> The 1967 President’s Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice recommended that all police officers nationwide have a bachelor’s degree by 1982. That recommendation, however, has not been met.
https://www.yourtango.com/news/police-high-iq-max-limit-degrees-police-reform
tdigren t1_iy1463p wrote
What is your interest in law?
Rhyxnathotho t1_iy15ned wrote
That’s irrelevant; I am stating facts with sources. Straw man arguments (Rodney King) and an ad hominem attack on me do not defend your arguments.
tdigren t1_iy16sg1 wrote
Oh! You’re one of them! I disagree and that’s an attack on you. Grow up.
Prestigious-Tie2049 t1_ixzy74r wrote
I mean they’re police. They don’t exactly hire the smartest people on the planet.
imightbemichael t1_iy057jc wrote
So out of the two people in this scenario, the police officer is the dumb one? Maybe, just maybe, and hear me out because I know this is crazy. The driver shouldn’t have accelerated and tried to get away.
FinnbarMcBride t1_iy0tz76 wrote
In that scenario, only one of them is worried about whether the cop gets hurt, and spoiler-alert, its not the guy driving the car
Triscuitador t1_iy1nth4 wrote
it's healthy to not trust cop reports. that guy that got shot for eating a hamburger in park could have been hit with the same charge. and, to be honest, the fact that a cop can't let go of a moving car doesn't inspire confidence that the same cop should be trusted with a firearm in an even higher stress situation.
Prestigious-Tie2049 t1_iy05h67 wrote
I never said the driver wasn’t dumb. No one should be street racing.
In theory the cop should have been able to use his monkey brain and let go of the door. in theory.
But as i said, they don’t always hire the smartest people.
imightbemichael t1_iy08o4p wrote
I know everyone likes to play Monday morning quarterback on this cesspool of an app. But it seems like it all happened in a split second. And it’s not like he was holding on and getting dragged down a street for a mile. It seems like he had his hand on the handle. The driver accelerated and dragged him a few feet before his fight or flight kicked in and he let go. Idk if you’ve ever been around cars that are used for street racing but they accelerate pretty quickly. And you can have your own opinion on cops but calling this guy stupid for trying to do his job and holding onto a handle for a millisecond too long, honestly kind of shows your stupidity
toinezor t1_iy0ehgk wrote
The irony is the ones that bash cops the most are the first ones calling 911.
Prestigious-Tie2049 t1_iy0pfy4 wrote
Luckily I don’t fall into that category 😎
I’ll call them dumb, but I really don’t understand all that acab shit
Like who ya gonna call, ghostbusters?
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curiousnaomi t1_iy0yvn7 wrote
18 and his life is over. Hard to come back from that level of fuckery.
>Troopers followed the group to a Department of Transportation commuter lot and observed them racing against one another, according to the television station.
Wow. Not the smartest criminals. Let's do our crime on government property!
95blackz26 t1_iy1dhvx wrote
No one said they were the sharpest tools in the shed or hell even remotely close to the shed
AquaNines t1_iy25rqk wrote
His life will be fine. It's a reckless driving/racing charge not an aggravated assault
curiousnaomi t1_iy2qe1t wrote
>His life will be fine. It's a reckless driving/racing charge not an aggravated assault
He dragged a police officer. He's facing more severe charges than you think. Read the article.
>Nathan Delvalle, 18, of Ansonia, was arrested and charged with violating motor vehicle racing requirements, reckless driving, disobeying the signal of an officer, engaging police in pursuit, illegally striking an officer with a motor vehicle, illegal racing on a highway, interfering with officer/resisting arrest, second-degree breach of peace and second-degree reckless endangerment, Connecticut State Police Trooper Preston Zdrojeski told The Middletown Press.
Mike-El t1_iy0w51i wrote
This sub is filled with morons who want to get on the ACAB bandwagon. Durr maybe the cop should have let go….
In reality what most likely happened was that he was holding the door, kid took off driving, and after a few feet at most the cop let go. No matter if it was an inch or many feet it is still dragging.
Nyrfan2017 t1_iy06fy5 wrote
Everyone saying the cop grabbed the door was the officer in a position. That if he didn’t grab on he could have been run over ?? I assume you all were there and know the answer
Rude_Technician655 t1_iy0tibb wrote
If there was a Rec center this would never happen.
JimHalverson t1_iy1s50o wrote
Have fun being poor the rest of your life.
redcapmilk t1_iy29ew7 wrote
Meh
jengopeanuts t1_iy41y46 wrote
Violent thug. And to execuse this because some cops may alledgeally comit domestic violence
blade-runner9 t1_iy166bs wrote
Shoot first ask questions later. These punks need some authority in their lives.
ovrhere_ t1_iy1e523 wrote
Were you touching yourself when you typed this?
in_sherman t1_iy09omy wrote
this year i'm thankful that we got a clown war instead of a civil war.
IoGibbyoI t1_ixzg6sn wrote
The cop could always let go.
Nyrfan2017 t1_ixzt8to wrote
The other guy could have not broken the law.. but hey .. let’s keep victimizing everyone… I swear this page will victimize the shit bag from Naugatuck when he is caught
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IoGibbyoI t1_iy0a3ry wrote
Cops can enforce the law or not as the choose. It was the cops choice to hang on. No one’s victimizing anyone.
blumpkinmania t1_iy07u1b wrote
You’re making the idiot who chose not to let go of the moving car into a victim.
Nyrfan2017 t1_iy438iv wrote
Were you there ??? Would the officer have been hit by back wheels if he didn’t hold on???
blumpkinmania t1_iy46z6k wrote
I was there. And no he wouldn’t have been hit.
TreeEleben t1_ixzw64m wrote
Dragged? No. Cop chose to hang onto a moving vehicle. He could have simply let go.
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 t1_ixzrunx wrote
It sounds like the trooper was holding onto the door. The Connecticut State Police must have training sessions where they learn to automatically portray themselves as victims no matter what happens. We ought to disband the Connecticut State Police and break up and let local police departments have their jurisdiction.
jules13131382 t1_iy10oor wrote
I feel bad for young people in Connecticut. It’s almost like a hopeless situation here….I’ve had so many racist teachers that I feel like kids of color don’t have a chance in the state. It’s really sad.
Lanky-Significance74 t1_iy17axt wrote
How is this even remotely related to the original post?
jules13131382 t1_iy1jbhh wrote
the guy in the mugshot is a person of color
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[deleted] t1_ixyzjtp wrote
He investigated himself and determined he did nothing wrong because he feared for his life. Sucks but what can you do?
ovrhere_ t1_ixzexcy wrote
> illegally striking an officer with a motor vehicle
Is there a legal way?