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Porkchop_Express__ t1_j1zqim3 wrote
I never knew that happened at Lake Compounce!
spmahn t1_j1zu3x7 wrote
The story and the video was part of the old VH1 Behind the Music show years and years ago. The Lake Compounce thing is blown out of proportion, A. Lots of artists even back then lip synced live in concert, from Michael Jackson to New Kids on the Block to Madonna to Tiffany and Debbie Gibson, it was not a big deal, and it just kind of looks like a DJ was spinning their record and B. The Lake Compounce concert was in the Summer of 89, Milli Vanilli stuck around for at least another year, so clearly it didn’t hurt them that much.
Milli Vanilli lip syncing live wasn’t the issue, the fact that they never sang on their record in the first place was the issue.
hymen_destroyer t1_j1zx7sv wrote
no but I saw New Kids on the Block at Lake Compounce around the same time and it was 🔥🔥🔥
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j1zx9ho wrote
Good point.
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j1zxku3 wrote
Yeah it’s super obvious that bands were lip syncing on TV variety shows. The one that comes to mind is The Animals performing House of The Rising Sun. Also the Mamas and the Pappas singing California Dreaming. It was way obvious.
spmahn t1_j1zytjd wrote
Yeah, lip syncing for TV has always been a thing, trying to produce live music in a way that doesn’t sound awful on TV is really hard. For concerts though, once Michael Jackson came along in 1984, and especially on his Bad tour and combined live music with complex choreography, it changed the game. From that point on, live acts had a choice, they could perform live, or they could do their dance performance live, but you couldn’t have both. Most pop acts from that point chose the dancing.
TheDudeMaintains t1_j200nkd wrote
A lot of bands, especially as they get up there in age, use backing vocals and/or understudy singers. Jon Bon Jovi, for example, barely has a voice these days but he can get through a set with some help.
Neat_Toe_5889 t1_j201hvr wrote
Girl you know it true!
purplemaplesurple t1_j2028el wrote
I was there! I was only 10 and didn’t realize anything weird happened. It was my very first concert.
Joggingmusic t1_j2028vo wrote
Girl you know its, girl you know its, girl you know its
Prize-Hedgehog t1_j202lpl wrote
So funny looking back at it now how obvious it was. Two guys that could barely speak English sure did sing it very well!
Malapple t1_j2056vk wrote
I just remember them getting made fun of, mercilessly - and then whenever you'd talk about any other musician, there was a "do they sing or lipsync" for a while. I was really young when it blew up.
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j205f22 wrote
Girl you know it’s…
sweet_whisky1 t1_j205khq wrote
I was there. It was a whole MTV concert series. It didn't seem like a big deal at the time.
JeanValJohnFranco t1_j20653e wrote
It’s not unprecedented to have non-English speakers become English-language pop stars, ABBA and Ace of Base were both Swedish, for example.
bbpr120 t1_j209z95 wrote
It doesn't get better than Nirvana "playing" Smells like Teen Spirit on the BBC'S Top of the Pops show.
cosmicness t1_j20ae25 wrote
I’ve seen some videos. They’re painful to watch.
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j20eksy wrote
That’s incredible. Was he sort of doing a Morrissey impression at the same time? Since it was a British show?
angeldeb82 t1_j20gkar wrote
Well, according to one reviewer on AOL Music: "Turns out that absolutely nothing about this [song] was true, which begs the question: Couldn't [Milli Vanilli] have bought a better lie?"
liquidprotein t1_j20gtpf wrote
Expensive-Notice-354 t1_j20il3b wrote
Yup I was there……
Academic-Animator-48 t1_j20kx10 wrote
Yes he was. I remember reading that.
Nyrfan2017 t1_j20kyot wrote
Heard they blamed it on the rain …..
RationallySkeptic t1_j20nckg wrote
Yep. There's even a plaque about it at Lake Compounce at the exact spot the stage was.
spmahn t1_j20o24e wrote
Roxette was huge in the 80’s and 90’s, neither of them were native English speakers
Warm_Wolverine_9051 t1_j20oqw8 wrote
GLAH GLAH BOOM BITCH
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j20p2je wrote
The Scorpions
redcapmilk t1_j20qctp wrote
I was holding them for a friend.
reboog711 t1_j20r5mi wrote
If I had, I would.
No shame!
reboog711 t1_j20rayz wrote
leavingthecold t1_j20rgy3 wrote
The songs were still great. Props to the real group who sang these songs
RIP Rob Pilatus
Theriggerswife t1_j20z2xt wrote
Totally jealous!!! Actually recently saw them and it was so much fun.
Theriggerswife t1_j20zeu1 wrote
….Blame it on the stars that didn't shine that night
FireyToots t1_j2119yo wrote
i wasn't born in connecticut (but i'm here now and you can't get rid of me! ha, suckers!) so it's insane to find all the weird or interesting connecticut connections that happened.
RhythmSectionJunky t1_j212r7q wrote
It was a big deal back then, but today we can view them as the pioneers they were.
toasterb t1_j212rlc wrote
Same. I was eight though.
parsonsparsons t1_j215aey wrote
My anthropology teacher in high school was there, he told us that in 2002, Mr. Laplante
GlitterfreshGore t1_j2166bw wrote
I just saw them too! I brought my 7 year old with me. He was like “mom? Why is everyone screaming?”
Edit to add: my aunt went to a retreat for quitting smoking. It was like a week long thing and they bunked with Jon Knight. They are still in contact. My aunt said he’s very quiet and very sweet.
ifollowmyownrules t1_j2177dz wrote
Loved Behind the Music!
ctnewsy t1_j217hij wrote
In 1989, German-French dance-pop group Milli Vanilli was on top of the world. The band had released its North American debut album, "Girl You Know It's True," which climbed the Billboard charts and went six-times platinum. The success also earned the group its first Grammy Award nomination and win for "Best New Artist" the following year.
However, one Connecticut concert was all it took to shatter the phenomenon of Milli Vanilli.On July 21, 1989, the group was set to perform live on MTV at Lake Compounce at the newly-opened amphitheater at the park, which could hold 20,000 fans. As the group took the stage to perform its seminal hit, "Girl You Know It's True," an issue with a hard drive caused the backing tracks to skip, jump and repeat — exposing that Milli Vanilli had actually been lip-syncing the song.
jaimearistea t1_j218txs wrote
I saw them at the garden state art center in New Jersey when I was a kid and I remember during an intermission, this recording came on of them singing and immediately went off. Even to my kid brain, it seemed like a mix-up or an oops.
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j21d7sq wrote
Yeah I wanna say that the group that actually sang on the recordings was two men and a woman and no one seemed to notice there were only two guys on the stage. In addition to their heavy German accents. That said they were a fluff act so it’s not like anybody was being that critical of them in the forst place.
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j21dd00 wrote
Hips don’t lie but music promoters do.
LloydChristmas666666 t1_j21dit4 wrote
No. But I saw Richard Marx and Wilson Phillips there.
gal5pau t1_j21fyja wrote
They were simply before their time…💔
itqitc t1_j21jvot wrote
me too!! it was my first concert!
SherrickM t1_j21lzmi wrote
My sister has long contended that she was there. She's of the appropriate age and music Fandom at the time, but I have never found any evidence. No ticket stub, no photos from that day, no friend who will say they were there with her. Hard to say.
Mycatreallyhatesyou t1_j21qaiz wrote
To be fair, I went to lots of concerts back then and have zero memorabilia left.
GovernmentNo4676 t1_j21rxlx wrote
These poor guys, one of which is dead were persecuted for what nearly every modern performer does. So FUCKING stupid.
Hollywood0203 t1_j21s6ps wrote
waitttt DA FUQ???
SherrickM t1_j21tpav wrote
Same, and that was a long time ago.
mynameisnotshamus t1_j220fi9 wrote
Poison, Brittny Fox and Lita Ford was my big Lake Compounce show - 1988. My parents would t let me go to Metallica though.
professor_doom t1_j220l5q wrote
Apparently no one in the audience even cared when it happened
Repulsive_List8964 t1_j220yyv wrote
I know 2 people who were there….Milli and another guy, Vanilli. They were there
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Nutella_Zamboni t1_j2249i6 wrote
I saw Chicago and the Beach Boys in the pouring rain. I was 12/13, and there with my family. The most beautiful girl of a similar age to me sat a few seats away and we stole glances at each other all night long. Which, my father made fun of me for the whole ride home lol.
1976kdawg t1_j225g4n wrote
My wife was there. It took her a minute to realize it was skipping.
Serious_Winner2560 t1_j2275pr wrote
No talented self respecting performers do this. They deserve to be ousted. They suck, they are gross, and their music is trash. Just like all the “music” you claim is every modern performer. Get some taste. Gross.
Beaudaci0us t1_j227az1 wrote
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MuddMeyer t1_j227fev wrote
Sadly my first concert ever was them 🤦🏻♂️😂. Saw them and En Vogue and Young MC in Hartford around that time frame, still residing in New Milford Ct.
WWJPD t1_j227xrq wrote
I was at Lake Compounce the night it happened. It was a whole MTV tour thing. I remember walking in the park with my friend when we heard it skipping and looked at each other asking, “Is the music skipping?” And we kept walking and didn’t give a crap.
Psirocking t1_j229d1u wrote
Where is it/was the stage?
translucentcop t1_j22ai2f wrote
Wow, r/2redditors1cup. Now that’s a subreddit I’ve not heard in a long time. A long time.
kookerpie t1_j22asv3 wrote
I unironically like their music
writtenbyrabbits_ t1_j22buou wrote
Lol me too. MC Hammer opened
MommysHadEnough t1_j22cjwa wrote
Same for me!
Pvrb80 t1_j22g1kv wrote
I was 9
dreamsthebigdreams t1_j22k51r wrote
Me either.. damn I lived in Bristol back then...
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Quick_Recover8626 t1_j22na98 wrote
My favorite was Jan & Dean in the mid 60’s they made fun of the fact that they were lip syncing by hamming it up. Guess they figured if it was so obvious they might as well have fun with it.
RationallySkeptic t1_j22o8un wrote
Where the Zoomerang is now. The plaque is right next to the Zoomerang. There are old areal shots of the old concert stage on google and you can see the road right next to the stage. A LOT of famous bands/artists played there back then. In fact the week after MV played, Melissa Etheridge played. And then Ringo Starr the week after Melissa.
Metallica played the week before MV.
This website archived every concert ever at LC... except for July 21st(MV)
https://www.concertarchives.org/venues/lake-compounce?page=3#concert-table
BMP353 t1_j22oj0p wrote
Seriously. Dude, why not just believe your sister?
Eastern_Ladder_6118 t1_j22oztb wrote
I was there and I had no idea what was happening. I was in high school. They were singing and it was toward the end of the concert. And then the song kind of starts repeating. Lights kept going and most people thought it was a call for an encore. I remember they came back out for a little while and kept performing. Had no idea something happened until a few days later. Of course no social media, cell phones or anything else back then.
lostinNevermore t1_j22picb wrote
I know some guys who used to work crew there. I will have to ask when I see them next week.
princess_cupcake72 t1_j22qhu9 wrote
I had tickets to The Violent Fems but the venue was trashed because of the Metallica concert a day or two before it. I’ve had a grudge against Metallica ever since!!!
lilrhodyarias t1_j22qkw8 wrote
That was 1990 and I was there too that shit was extremely 🔥🔥🔥
widget_fucker t1_j23cqtm wrote
Girl, you know it’s true.
suburban_mom_jeans t1_j23m6j4 wrote
Do most ppl hold on to their ticket stubs? Once it goes into my purse, it's never seen again.
Furgems t1_j23mp1l wrote
Lol. Was that when they were supposed to be opening for Tiffany, but they got so popular, Tiffany ended up opening for them? I was there, too!
NoHopeOnlyDeath t1_j23pvzn wrote
Which is how you end up with the Iron Maiden video for Wasted Years. The band refused to "pretend to play" and instead just acted like idiots.
fitzmoon t1_j23r8y5 wrote
I went too!!! It was my first year at SCSU it was the best! I wore my purple fringed suede jacket and Nike high tops with the red swoosh…I was soooooo cool! Ah, the 80s…
babycrowitch t1_j23rbvl wrote
I was working there that night. I was maybe 17.
NoBoysenberry257 t1_j23rhsw wrote
Tape can't skip....
painterlyjeans t1_j23t52e wrote
I saw Metallica there, went for The Cult
djvitaminb12 t1_j23tgjy wrote
lol the "tape skipped"
219Infinity t1_j23tki8 wrote
Was the first CD I ever owned (received at Christmas 1990 along with my first cd player, and a few months after the milli vanilli scandal had broke and they were disgraced).
Ordinary_Guitar_5074 OP t1_j23to9z wrote
That’s true. It was actually a computer hard drive. It’s referred to often as “tape” but that’s an antiquated term that has survived because “playing to tape” is a term of art. Sort of like how very few movies are created on film but movies are still often referred to as “films” and so forth.
cjrun t1_j23u40p wrote
wow, for the whole song Kurt committed to the bit. Lol
Gallant_Asshole t1_j23vf5o wrote
Some people are of the opinion that the "band" was disgraced even before they got caught. They were an early obvious example of a "band" run by a corporation which no actual talent and a lot of technology and out-of-touch fashion stylists. All designed to hit on modern trends. It was as generic pop as it gets.
219Infinity t1_j23xr5n wrote
All true. I was using the word "disgraced" to mean "mocked endlessly and quickly out of the public eye." But yes, they were a corporate pop creation like many other acts.
Darondo t1_j23yenj wrote
These guys weren’t just lip singing live shows, none of their recorded music was their voices either.
I can’t name a single other instance of that.
Anyways, my dad was at the show lol.
jpr_jpr t1_j23ygqb wrote
I got paid ~$11/hr to sell harbor bars while watching a Sting concert there. Would love a few more gigs like that.
Alot of great concert memories there. Just the threat of a Guns and Roses concert was enough to shut it down. 😞
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Nigel_IncubatorJones t1_j245hk8 wrote
That's the truth , it would be almost impossible to sing while doing a lot of those dance moves. You would be out of breath, dancing is cardio, and singing takes a lot of breath control if you want to sing in tune.
gfrascione t1_j245rog wrote
Look at BTS now. Only one of them can speak English in interviews
lunaticmagnet t1_j249as3 wrote
I think you may be thinking of Holy Smoke.
NoHopeOnlyDeath t1_j24akxd wrote
.........possibly.
thatquinnchick t1_j25fwxe wrote
Same! My first concert ever. Can still remember what my favorite Kid, Jordan, was wearing. Don't judge me, nostalgia is a powerful drug.
IAmSherm t1_j26o90f wrote
I was there primarily to see Tone Loc and Information Society that night, but have zero recollection of anything memorable with MV. Paula Abdul was also on the lineup. She and her entourage were on the roller coaster ahead of our group and the ride attendant let them ride a second time without disembarking. Teenage me was not pleased.
Gallant_Asshole t1_j1zmbj0 wrote
Who would honestly admit they bought tickets to Milli Vanilli?