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crankyape1534 OP t1_j6bk82d wrote

Nikon D750, 20mm f2.8. ISO 800, f5.6, 1/2500s. Photo taken from blue Hawaiian helicopter tour flying over the east side of Maui to the back side of Moloka’i Hawaii.

You can follow along on instagram @aschlepp

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OrangeHexagon237 t1_j6bmdi9 wrote

I just hear a voice saying “we’ve spared no expense”.

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Vansh92 t1_j6c433w wrote

Wow, I got offered a job out here for 8 months. Really considering it more than I ever was now

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Daguy223 t1_j6c7ocg wrote

This reminds me of that one mission in Halo 3’s campaign

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ovocato t1_j6cftli wrote

Replying to Vansh92 (#1,575,838)

I’ve heard that with the recent loss of two physicians, almost half of Molokai’s population is without a doctor. It’s a unique and beautiful island, but very unlike what most think of when they think of Hawaii. I’m sure the people would welcome you with old school aloha. It could be worth a visit before you decide one way or another!

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james___uk t1_j6cgaoo wrote

If I'm not mistaken, location of the tallest sea cliffs in the world

EDIT: Nope, see below comment.

EDIT: Oh actually-

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MarstonX t1_j6chmlw wrote

Replying to ovocato (#1,576,241)

What do you mean by it's very unlike what most think of when they think Hawaii? To me it's not that different, just less busy than other islands. I'm curious what you mean by that statement.

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Pinkmongoose t1_j6cix35 wrote

It’s so wild that half that island just slid into the ocean. And did so with such momentum that chunks of the island are 200 miles away on the sea floor. And that you can basically piece them back together like a puzzle to see the previous shape and size of the island! Great shot! Edit: the video I learned this from: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sQu8A9repo8

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MarstonX t1_j6clvhz wrote

Replying to playfulmessenger (#1,576,579)

Nah that's Niihau. Molokai is a bit different from Hawaii, Oahu and Maui, but it's weird to say that it's unlike what most people think of when they think Hawaii.

I'm not sure what people's perception of Hawaii in general vs Molokai is, that's kind of what I'm asking. Molokai is an island paradise, much like the rest of Hawaii.

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OneDumbPunk t1_j6crcfd wrote

My buddy lives In hawaii. If you ever get a chance, go visit. It’s breathtakingly beautiful.

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KiwieeiwiK t1_j6cs60g wrote

Replying to Charlatangle (#1,577,943)

I mean yeah I guess, but it's really only in the interests of the tour companies that are trying to get people to visit there to have that info spread. And the million websites that are trying to make a buck off repeating info with no checking

I didn't mean native Hawaiians for the record

Greater Polynesian solidarity

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MySweetUsername t1_j6csaxr wrote

Flying out of Oahu in a C172 I've landed at Kalaupapa more times then I can count.

Those cliffs are absolutely stunning going towards Maui on the return leg.

Thank you Dad for those memories! Miss you.

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iGer t1_j6ct2oz wrote

I am a simple man, I see the islands of Hawaii, I remember LOST

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redloin t1_j6d54pf wrote

Replying to MarstonX (#1,576,494)

I asked about going and touring around Molo'kai and was basically told that there really no accomodations for tourists anymore and that crime is high. This is just what I've heard. May or may not be true.

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Nickbot606 t1_j6d9gil wrote

Gosh, I wish I had my nice camera the year I went there… it’s so gorgeous and you got a great shot!

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kapolani t1_j6da2rt wrote

Spent a lot of my childhood on Moloka’i.

I still have a lot of family there.

Beautiful island.

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Steelyp t1_j6daer2 wrote

Great shot! We were in Maui and I regret not getting over there but just didn’t have the time. The guide books mentioned that the last decade or so has been tough for Moloka’i. Here’s an excerpt - would love to know how true it is:

The island has a perpetually dismal economy. Most residents are on some kind of government assistance. Though the island’s nickname is “the friendly island,” you may find just the opposite. Though residents are very friendly with each other (the only repetitive motion injury residents are likely to suffer is from drivers constantly waving at each other), many (though by no means all) tend to be pretty reserved with visitors. The grumpy reputation is, to a certain extent, for effect. Most residents here don’t want many visitors and don’t want a friendly reputation, even if they are nice to you on a one-to-one basis. The belief is that community stink eye can help keep the island from being developed and its resources depleted. (It’s a favorite island of many visitors because of its undeveloped nature, but many complain of feeling unwelcome.) "No Trespassing" signs are conspicuously few. You either belong somewhere or you don’t, and residents don’t need signs to tell them that.

Local residents had a nasty little war going on with the island’s largest landowner, Moloka‘i Ranch, which owns over a third of the island (mostly on the drier western half). When the ranch built a pipeline to carry water to another part of the island, vandals destroyed it. While the ranch suffered tens of millions of dollars in losses from their operations, residents stopped them from doing any development. As a last ditch effort to save the business, Moloka‘i Ranch threw a Hail Mary. They proposed developing a 500-acre strip of land at La‘au Point on the extreme southwestern tip. They agreed to use proceeds from the sale of luxury lots at the otherwise inaccessible land to rebuild the long-closed Sheraton resort and to set aside 50,000 acres (over three-quarters of all their land holdings) for conservation. But residents opposed them. Handmade Save La‘au signs went up all over the island, and local activists influenced the land use commission to turn down Moloka‘i Ranch’s plans.

So in 2008 the company essentially quit the island. They closed their two remaining resorts, shut down the gas station and movie complex in Maunaloa and closed off access to their third of the island. After being thwarted in their quest to build windmills on the island and send the electricity to O‘ahu in 2014, the war now seems pretty much over… and both sides lost. There is a little activity taking place on their land, but Maunaloa is still a ghost town with only a private general store open next to Moloka‘i Ranch's office. Most other buildings have been abandoned and vandalized. The owner put the property on the market in 2017, and it can all be yours for a mere quarter billion dollars.

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katrinai30 t1_j6dc9at wrote

Replying to MySweetUsername (#1,578,149)

I spent a couple of months in Molokai, and after that flew to Maui and the pilot of the little plane said that the weather was perfect to take the scenic route and he took us this way. It was also during sunrise. Unreal. I don't know if he was just bullshitting and that's the way that he always goes but he made it seem like it was a special treat because of weather and it definitely felt that way.

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KPer123 t1_j6ddd43 wrote

When I went to Hawaii we paid $$$ for a sweet helicopter ride . Man it was so dope, the pilot asked us if we liked amusement rides and we said yes . Guy was just rippin it with drops and climbs . So much fun and absolutely breathtaking , we mentioned our honeymoon and I guess they added some extra bonuses for us .

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uncleseano t1_j6dgkpt wrote

Aaahh.... This is for the Molokai cop

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crankyape1534 OP t1_j6dgktj wrote

Replying to Steelyp (#1,581,525)

Sounds accurate. I’ve only been on Molokai for a paddle competition. That and flown over it many times. I’ve heard it was expensive for their food and resources and that many were living off the government. I read many small businesses that were tourist friendly closed down. I’ve heard locals can be very welcoming and also very unfriendly depending on the exact situation. I’ll likely never get to go explore it fully but I do appreciate what I have experienced.

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JohanRiver7 t1_j6diuqc wrote

Please don't let anyone stop you from posting MORE photos like this. I never get tired of seeing this place. Great shot!

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ironflesh t1_j6dkkkn wrote

I'm watching Lost TV show right now. I'm pretty sure these cliffs where filmed in that show. Beautiful!

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kapolani t1_j6dwqor wrote

Replying to CaustiChewinGum (#1,584,977)

Every year we would have a family reunion on the island. We’d camp on the beach for a week. We’d hunt pig and deer. Go diving and fishing. Pound poi. The kids would pick limu. Food and song all night long.

Great times.

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possumallawishes t1_j6dymlw wrote

Replying to Steelyp (#1,581,525)

One time, I took a ferry there from Lahaina and camped up in the mountains.

I took a mule ride down these sea cliffs to Kalaupapa, which is actually a literal leper colony. Leprosy, or Hansen’s disease, has been cured as of like the 1950s, so at the time I went there, there was only like 7 people left who had suffered from the disease and they were like 70 or 80 years old. That alone is an interesting story, but I’m kinda going off on a tangent, it’s an interesting story should you ever want to go down an internet rabbit hole.

People in Molokai were generally friendly, but even a decade after the fact, there was still “Save La’au” signs and anti-Sheraton propaganda. They were overgrown in the vegetation, and sun faded over time, but you could feel the anti-establishment sentiment in the air. There was not much to do, in a sense of commercial outlets. I rented a jeep and drove from one end of the island to the other. There was like one little bar and a little gift shop, and that’s pretty much all I remember. I got a lot of suspicious looks and mean mugs, but I sort of expected it because I knew I would stick out like a sore thumb. But you could basically pull off the road anywhere and have miles of beach to yourself. I think i stayed two nights, and while it was a unique and memorable experience that I think outshines every other adventure I’ve had on any of the other islands, I don’t think I would go back. Like I said, people were nice, but I definitely didn’t feel like I would be welcome there for very long.

Another story about Molokai that I thought was funny/interesting:

The island was overrun by an Axis Deer population. They are obviously not native and are invasive to the land. So, the island or the government or whatever, hired a guy to go up in a helicopter with a machine gun and just pull up on these herds of these monstrous deer and he would take out like 300 a day or something, and did that for a couple weeks until the herd was thinned out. Crazy stuff.

To me, Molokai is like the Florida of Hawaii.

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crankyape1534 OP t1_j6e29qr wrote

Replying to FLORI_DUH (#1,585,833)

Not really sunny. Sunny beyond where we were. It was actually drizzling rain on us and we were flying mostly under a cloud bank. I wanted a higher ISO so that I could use a higher shutter speed. especially with a polarizing filter. That and the Nikon D750 I use handles low light well. Even at those higher ISO. If you zoom way in you will see some noise but a lot of what appears to be noise is the drizzle of rain.

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ovocato t1_j6e5ttz wrote

Replying to MarstonX (#1,576,494)

Don’t get me wrong, I love Molokai for what it is, but having lived elsewhere in the state I’ve seen many people’s idea of Hawaii being Waikiki, luaus, shopping, surf lessons, and drinks by the pool. Molokai has only one very old-school hotel, there is no luxury shopping or luaus, and the residents in general are against the kind of tourism seen on Kauai, Oahu, and Maui. No nightclubs, no fancy restaurants, no cruise ships, no fire dancing. What you will find are people that fish and hunt for their meat and grow their own vegetables, untouched beaches, pristine rainforests, and aloha. I’m certainly not trying to cast any judgment, but if someone is not into all that they might enjoy themselves more elsewhere.

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Boating_Enthusiast t1_j6e9jd9 wrote

Replying to Steelyp (#1,581,525)

"Welcome to Molokai! Come visit, don't stay." It's not the tourism focused tropical themed experience that Maui, Kauai, and Waikiki resorts try to provide. Imagine the island is someone's home that you're visiting. It's still full of friendly Hawaiians, but don't try to claim a bedroom and expect a warm response.

Also, Molokai Ranch would love to spin a story about how much they care about the locals, but Molokai recognizes the same scheme happening on other islands. Build some luxury, gate it off. Build more luxury, gate it off. Offer the locals some minimum wage jobs, tell them to be happy or pound sand. Sorry, you can't cross our land to get to the sand.

Molokai chooses their lifestyle, which isn't modern 3 and 2's with an upscale strip mall nearby. No Walmarts, no Panera, no Chick-fil-A. No attracting outside development that will pave over Hawaii and sell it off to foreign investors.

Whoops, a bit long winded, but the tldr is Molokai is friendly but untrusting, seeing what happens when foreign investment decides they can make a profit off selling your home.

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gypsymonkey t1_j6e9pp6 wrote

I grew up on Molokai during the 60s and the 70s. Beautiful place to live and very friendly people as long as you are respectful.

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slugator t1_j6ebmt9 wrote

Replying to crankyape1534 (#1,586,910)

With a population in the single digits. When it was decommissioned, there were some people who had spent close to their entire life there and at that point didn’t want to leave. So the government didn’t kick them out and provides basic services. But no one has moved there in decades.

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slugator t1_j6edoeu wrote

Replying to KiwieeiwiK (#1,576,438)

Mitre Peak is a large mountain with a large cliff face. But the cliff face doesn’t reach to the summit. Mitre peak’s summit is taller than the Molokai/Kalaupapa cliff faces, but Molokai’s cliff face is taller than Mitre Peak’s cliff face.

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slugator t1_j6ee9bw wrote

Replying to playfulmessenger (#1,576,579)

You’re thinking of Niihau, but the description you’re giving is essentially propaganda. Niihau is basically a privately owned feudal system fiefdom. People that make it off the island (usually to Kauai) generally don’t have very nice things to say about it.

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KiwieeiwiK t1_j6eedpk wrote

Replying to buccsmf1 (#1,579,440)

And yet they are not.

The cliffs that all these articles (travel aggregate sites are not good references lol) are talking about are 1,010m high with an average gradient of 55°. The eastern face of Mitre Peak is 1,683m high with an average gradient of 60°. So it is not only taller but steeper as well.

Sorry but they're all wrong. Doesn't matter how many times something is repeated, it doesn't get more correct just because more people say it.

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slugator t1_j6eenlr wrote

Replying to Vansh92 (#1,575,838)

You should absolutely go. They are in desperate need of physicians and they would respect you in a way that most other visitors don’t get to experience. I don’t understand the reasons behind the doctor shortage statewide, but it is intense.

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PA2SK t1_j6ees2d wrote

My niece disappeared over those cliffs.

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crankyape1534 OP t1_j6ei0o1 wrote

Replying to KiwieeiwiK (#1,588,294)

I have to say though. Having visited Milford sound. It left me feeling I’d visited another world entirely. I also happened to be there during near record rains and saw tens of thousands of waterfalls and the cliffs were a web of water.

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KiwieeiwiK t1_j6eiapt wrote

Replying to slugator (#1,588,129)

The entire east side of the mountain is a cliff face from the summit to the sea, it has an average inclination of 60°

The tallest cliffs on Moloka'i (the ones in OP's photo) are 1,013m high with an average inclination of 55°

Mitre Peak's eastern face is both taller and steeper than those in Moloka'i.

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KiwieeiwiK t1_j6eiy26 wrote

Replying to PA2SK (#1,588,317)

The inclination from the summit of Mitre Peak to the sea is steeper than the cliffs in Moloka'i. The Moloka'i cliffs are also a summit, they're from a mountain that falls into the sea, same as Mitre Peak. There's really no metric that says Moloka'i is a sea cliff and Mitre Peak isn't. Mitre Peak is taller, and steeper.

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KiwieeiwiK t1_j6ej762 wrote

Replying to buccsmf1 (#1,588,760)

It's actually a fjord, not a sound, but either way it doesn't matter because both sounds and fjords and connected to the sea. The water it falls into is the sea. By this logic we might as well rule out the Moloka'i cliffs because they fall into a bay and not the sea.

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PA2SK t1_j6ek114 wrote

Replying to KiwieeiwiK (#1,589,008)

I'm not going to get pulled in to a debate about what counts as a "sea cliff". This sounds like one of those things where among the locals in Milford Sound it's an accepted truth that their Mitre Peak is the highest sea cliff in the world, but literally everyone else in the world, including lots of smart geologists, says it's the sea cliffs at molokai. You live your truth, the rest of us will live ours.

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moresushiplease t1_j6f49o0 wrote

That triangular face is exactly where a villanwould build thier lair with a lava waterfall in the back where the volcano is

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EmeraldPrime t1_j6f60sp wrote

Read The Colony by John Taymen about the exiles on Moloka’i. Very eye opening book.

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Mixing_It_Hot t1_j6fg0rh wrote

Fun story: I’m in the Coast Guard and I was temporarily assigned to a ship in Hawaii. The crew dropped me off on this island because they needed someone to handle the mooring lines (ropes) when they came back. They didn’t come back until 18 hours later, effectively marooning me on Molokai

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juicyb09 t1_j6fqtkc wrote

I miss it there sometimes. Such awesome memories.

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LittleWhiteBoots t1_j6guf0e wrote

Replying to kapolani (#1,581,464)

I dated a guy who lived on Molokai. Fond memories of taking his Suzuki Samurai to Halawa and sneaking to the waterfalls there. Won’t ever forget those fire ants.

Also, the bread dude! We’d go to that bakery in Kaunakakai late at night and bang on the back door for the hot bread.

What a lovely place. I spent a few months there but I haven’t been there since the 90s.

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LittleWhiteBoots t1_j6gvbe0 wrote

Replying to Steelyp (#1,581,525)

I had good experiences there, but I came there already knowing someone and quickly made friends. It’s definitely not Maui in terms of catering to tourism. I had some uncomfortable moments. The people I knew who were employed… a plumeria farm owner who supplied leis to hotels on Maui, a tower maintenance dude who climbed those massively tall towers, a construction worker, a pastor, someone who worked at the airport. Many were on the government dole. There really isn’t any industry there that I recall. Back then Maunaloa was still open for business though, some hotels were open. Sounds like they closed.

Most of the people I knew have moved to Oahu.

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kapolani t1_j6hr92b wrote

Replying to LittleWhiteBoots (#1,604,682)

Love those memories!

We used to all pile in the truck and ride to the valley to go swimming too!

Then late at night we’d make a run to the bakery to get fresh portagee bread and sweet bread and have some cocoa with it.

Good times!

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