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A1CST t1_j31nzi4 wrote

This seems like just a giant FaceTime screen but with depth. When I think of holographic this is not it.

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B_Brown4 t1_j31ppa4 wrote

Was thinking the same thing. It seems like just an expensive webcam with depth to it. Not impressed.

I'd have to see it for myself, it could be way different in person

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Falzon03 OP t1_j31sfpc wrote

As with any tech, it would improve over time. I think a 3d display without glasses is a better description then hologram, depending on the exact tech used inside.

However, per current tech and our knowledge of physics. Our perception of what a "hologram" should be is not possible. Not without a "container" of sorts. A true Star Wars style hologram is just not obtainable as it defies physics in the way of somehow stopping light at precise distances without physical interruptions.

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MagnaCamLaude t1_j31zb51 wrote

Just program nanobots to become the light so the stop at pre programed distances according to to dimensions of the object/subject of the video call. Easy fix lol

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CollegeMiddle6841 t1_j351gfr wrote

That is the solution. We see what you are describing with aerial drone displays that are popular. To create a photorealistic human would take hundreds of thousands of microdrones. Sounds far fetched, but I think we will get there if the money tracks that is.

Imagine a puck of sorts, about the size of a dinner plate. Now imagine the same size plate about 18 inches above the other. Both plates could have a circular pattern of minute holes. One of the plates could pump out a thin haze and the other could capture it to be recirculated or vented out. A projector or series of projectors could create the "hologram".

Wonder if that would work?

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_j36debo wrote

Long time ago i went to se an holografic expo

the ones i most remember were the picture of a fisher king with a fish on is beak, despite being aware that it was a flat plate the illusion of the fish hanging in the air from the bird beak beyond the wall, it was amazing, put the hand against the wall and still the image seem closer than the hand and the wall, cover part of the hologram with the hand and being able to see it complete by looking throught the side like in a real window

another had the picture of an optometrist shop with a vision chart at the end and a pair of glasses seeminly closer to you in the air, in front of you and they worked as real glases do too, looking throught the glasses you could see the symbols in the chrart and the things in the shop bigger, not looking though the glasses you could look at the room and the chart as if not using the glasses, and standing next to the picture the glasses were closer close next to you than the wall

another had a microscope with an electronic chip on its glass plate, you could approach the microscope tiny lense and see the amplified details of the chip like using a real microscope while feeling that the microscope was closer to your eye than the wall

we get fooled that those are 3d because they are, the flat plate is not just an usual photo, it contains the reconstructed 3d image as intersection waves iluminated from a source that is reflected by a mirror into another point of light hitting the picture from a different angle

The plates i saw were higher quality than the star wars thing, but there are labs working on systems that can also project it that way, a problem that we have is that to do it with moving images is very difficult, you need to capture the complete 3d information for the reconstruction of the image and its surroundings and the objects are moving

but there are people working on different methods, from memory MIT tensor holography...and others, no idea of the quality or how far they are thought

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Captn_Porky t1_j33h2vo wrote

>A true Star Wars style hologram is just not obtainable as it defies physics in the way of somehow stopping light at precise distances without physical interruptions.

what about:

stopping light with gravity

stopping light with opposing light

stopping light with dark matter idk

use fire instead of light (not literally hologram but effectively the same)

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himo2785 t1_j354sgv wrote

You can’t control fire like that. In order to trap light you need something with the density of a black hole, crated instantaneously, which would pull in all other things around it whenever it started and you’d need both a way to contain it and a way to see the light that it eating.

There is no way to generate light from a fluid nonfixed point without a container of some form

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Falzon03 OP t1_j344tb0 wrote

Literally none of those are possible. Gravity has zero affect on light. Light does not affect light. Dark matter is hypothetical currently.

You could potentially do it with lasers and partials in the air but there are many variables to that.

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Captn_Porky t1_j34ajm3 wrote

gravity does affect light

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/34352/how-is-light-affected-by-gravity#34356
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift

and light does affect light

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-photon_physics

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Falzon03 OP t1_j34c8n0 wrote

I was mistaken on gravity affecting light with it affecting the speed of light.

However, the second link on light affecting light is in a very particular circumstance in the lab.

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Captn_Porky t1_j34i0ff wrote

theres also the possibility to do something like a controlled aurora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora

i dont think physics keep us from making holograms,
its just all pointless to do research in this area until quantum technology has matured

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highjinx411 t1_j35oe29 wrote

It’s possible. You just need to think outside the box.

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Dirks_Knee t1_j33fg55 wrote

Right? The rear projection on glass holograms seem a step ahead of this, or maybe the vid just doesn't do the system justice.

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zebrahdh t1_j34yctd wrote

So then make adjustments…

What makes more sense? Should holograms change to fit your imagined one?

Or or…

Should you change what you think of as a hologram…

I literally had to do this 4-5 times in my life already with “phones” :

Wired- kitchen wall
The cordless
Nokia the indestructible
Nextel Clam shell
Any Smart phone

And I’m not even mentioning seeing “phones in cartoons where you hold one end to your ear and yell into the phone box reciever.

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A1CST t1_j34zzzs wrote

No I refuse to because this is not a hologram. The logic you use to "make adjustments" confuses me because yes as technology gets better its still the same thing, if anything you just proved my point that this is just a tv or giant phone screen with some depth not a hologram. Maybe you should grasp a better understanding how technology evolves. So ill say it once again this is not a hologram and in my opinion does not fit the definition of a hologram.

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oasiscat t1_j31vyzl wrote

People don't even like to wear pants in Zoom meetings. Why would they want their whole body on display? unless that was the actual purpose of the call like a fashion show or doctor's exam.

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DudesworthMannington t1_j34ne4s wrote

Yeah, can we please stick with the current remote work setup for a few years? I'm finally enjoying work. I don't want to strap on a bunch of crap and sit in a virtual office all day. That's the part I didn't like.

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TheDownvotesFarmer t1_j35j0rn wrote

Or to send a message to an old friend requesting for help because is the only hope

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tugnasty t1_j3235ju wrote

So it's just a big 3D tv that doesn't require glasses. And they think we need to see somebody's whole body while video chatting at work, while they stand in some weird frame?

Apart from this not being a hologram, I don't understand the actual use of this as they are presenting it.

Why would anyone want to go stand in a frame in front of a camera while someone else does the same just so that they can both see each other's pants and shoes?

If can't transfer any information you couldnt send in an email.

"I'm wearing khaki slacks and brown shoes."

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Lou-Saydus t1_j33fk0s wrote

This, it’s a 3D tv without the need for glasses. Really cool on its own, but not a hologram

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pab_guy t1_j332f6w wrote

I don't know this is just a 3d TV. I don't know what it is at all because the tech is never explained anywhere. For all I know it's a 2d transparent screen in the middle of a white box.

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Falzon03 OP t1_j323xh0 wrote

Yes I agree, the presented it horribly for real world use. They are tugging at heart strings to get hype and get people to talk about it. Practical uses would be University biolabs with a touch overlay, executive conference rooms, manufacturing facilities for this gs like visualizing a product before preproduction ect.

It would require special cameras on the far end so would never be used for personal video calls.

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Falzon03 OP t1_j31mdg5 wrote

I work in commercial AV and although this is extremely expensive. Once they work out the kinks I see this being implemented in a lot of businesses in a myriad of different ways, a university bio lab for instance but installed as a table instead of free standing.

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like9000ninjas t1_j31nxkh wrote

Man its crazy what were capable of now. Just the stuff in my lifetime is incredible.

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Falzon03 OP t1_j31snsb wrote

My dad was born in the 70s and I recently introduced him to 3d pri ting. His exact words were, this is like magic to me. As much as I love 3d printing tech I can't wait for it to be so much faster and can only imagine my kids laughing at current printers and considering them the same way we currently look at something like an atari.

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like9000ninjas t1_j31t9w3 wrote

Yea resin printers are incredible now.. filament printers dont have the same magic in my eyes as resin does. He probably grew up on star trek like I did and its the closest thing to a replicator we have currently. In 20 years..... who knows.

Personally I can't wait to see how VR is in 10 years. I used the startrek holodeck as my vr homespace.... i know, im a nerd. Lol

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Falzon03 OP t1_j31um75 wrote

He did, and that is exactly the comparison he made.

I'm most excited for AR. To me, VR is going to land itself in the gaming world mostly exclusively. Or more fun things. Whereas AR is going to be amazing for productivity, both personal and business.

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alainreid t1_j3311ya wrote

I was just having this conversation at a university. Volumetric display is the term.

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mrmonkeybat t1_j33cfge wrote

This thing IS NOT 3D! It is just a big transparent LCD screen with a white box behind it.

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Falzon03 OP t1_j3452el wrote

No it most likely is 3d ie multiple displays inside. I do not know so don't quote me but I would guess multiple layers of transparent lcds to create 3d effect.

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mrmonkeybat t1_j34vhi7 wrote

Whenever the camera angle in there promo vids goes to the side a bit, a single plane of 2d video is revealed.

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Agrocloud t1_j33lvh7 wrote

I think these could possibly be considered ACTUAL holograms?? I still think this is pretty cool though.

https://youtu.be/GNoOiXkXmYQ https://youtu.be/tzWP-NL3Lck

Edit: Volumetric displays and those led fans that display holographic images like Hypervsn are pretty cool too.

https://youtu.be/5676nqtkoVI

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Orc_ t1_j377yhr wrote

the japanese one was the best, seems the one closest to the scifi cyberpunk giant advertising concept

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Pkmatrix0079 t1_j323ss2 wrote

Yeah, this isn't what anyone normally thinks of when you say "Hologram" - they're thinking of open air Holograms. Which are a thing, even if they are nowhere near ready for prime time.

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pab_guy t1_j333dvr wrote

How do you know? They don't describe the tech at all LOL

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ZX6Rob t1_j334wn9 wrote

Why do we keep inventing new technologies to have meetings? Everyone hates fucking meetings!

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Falzon03 OP t1_j345vwx wrote

My entire industry exists because of this so I don't. If you hate meetings they're not done well. Proper planning and meeting agendas with the right people involved are very productive and provide stimulating conversations. Most people just suck at performing and preparing for meetings.

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jiggywiz t1_j3aw94r wrote

Yeah, No it’s not. And fyi when y’all do make real REAL holograms, just do it, don’t tease the shit for months only to leave people disappointed in the bs that your trying to pass off as holograms.

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FuturologyBot t1_j31qeq8 wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/Falzon03:

I work in commercial AV and although this is extremely expensive. Once they work out the kinks I see this being implemented in a lot of businesses in a myriad of different ways, a university bio lab for instance but installed as a table instead of free standing.

Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/103yc6u/holographic_tech_coming_soon_to_businesses/j31mdg5/

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hoosierhiver t1_j32xbyt wrote

So will holographic strip bars be a thing in the future?

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AndyP8 t1_j34iaca wrote

An article that is actually about futuristic stuff? Surely this was posted in the wrong sub

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CookieLuzSax t1_j354j2g wrote

At this point, why not just use VR? It's easier and a better experience than this "holographic tech"

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JonZ82 t1_j354zii wrote

I work in Commercial AV and this tech is old af.. It's cumbersome to deploy and install and the content needs to be catered to it. I don't see this coming to Consumers ever and it's really only market is large mall spaces showcasing luxury watches and crap.

Edit: after further reading I'm fairly certain this is just a giant portrait LCD..not even a transparent LCD, just content made to "look" 3d. Vaporware af

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MaxDeLaMax t1_j36hfex wrote

Back in the office, nvm, WE’LL BRING THE OFFICE YOU?! Now get workin.

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