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keepthetips t1_j29vht5 wrote

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Any-Organization3106 t1_j29wt6r wrote

You're definitely mad at the wrong people. If your pay rate means you're reliant on tips, it's your employer you should be mad at.

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prophylaxitive t1_j29yjgm wrote

People are already paying extra for delivery and, in doing so, they're literally providing you with employment. Why should they also tip? Why are you entitled to tips?

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Em_Adespoton t1_j29ze3c wrote

It is. Your employer should be paying you a fair wage.

If it helps at all, I no longer get delivery at all, although I can afford it, because I can’t conscionably support the employers that don’t pay their employees a fair wage.

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flyfly89 t1_j29zk9i wrote

“Hmm I’m not getting any tips for my service. Let’s sabotage their food so they will tip in the future.”

People like you are reason drivers don’t get tipped

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productoffallout OP t1_j2a05pp wrote

I love to have college wasn't so f****** expensiv But it's cool you'll just end up getting your food spit on or are you getting cold because you all have the audacity to stiff drivers over and over again when they have 20 minutes alone with your f****** food

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flyfly89 t1_j2a114t wrote

Totally, end result would be good.

But sabotaging peoples food just ensures that nobody is gonna tip the drivers. If a server flips of the guest they don’t get to be insulted when they don’t a tip

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Diedrogen t1_j2a1jb0 wrote

Tipping, or rather, the need to tip, is the problem. Businesses need to be held to the standard of paying employees a living wage and not make customers pick up the tab.

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Em_Adespoton t1_j2a1qua wrote

Yup. I had a few run-ins with pre-disgruntled delivery drivers who messed with my food years ago. First step was to report the driver. Second was to stop using the service. Then I realized that almost all delivery services are taking advantage of the drivers and I stopped ordering delivery altogether.

Then again, I can make better food faster for cheaper, so unless it’s a catering situation, I’m not going to be ordering food delivered anymore anyway, now that I’ve broken the habit.

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ThrowAwayUrTelevizun t1_j2a2ryz wrote

You don't know people's situations - don't gatekeep and say poorer people can't treat themselves once in a while. I recently bought a take out that cost me $14 including delivery. The food was enough to last me two dinners.

Edit to add: Tipping is for good/efficient delivery service. I don't tip if the driver ignores my delivery instructions and wakes up my neighbour and their kids instead of actually going to my door because they cba to read instructions/use a flight of stairs.

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drainisbamaged t1_j2a4d0j wrote

As a Jr high dropout I ended up 8+ years of working full time (never in service industry) to put myself thru community college (usually full time course load) to be able to transfer to a 4-yr.

So hard empirical disagree with ya fella. You clearly just like to avoid agency with your problems.

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Jazzlike-Yard5612 t1_j2a63wg wrote

Phew! I like my salads cold!

But why would you take out your frustrations with past customers on future ones? That makes absolutely no sense.

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Laxly t1_j2a6wqr wrote

Yeah, if I've paid for the food and delivery, or if the cost of delivery is included in the cost of the food, then why would I pay extra?

What "extra" is the delivery driver providing that I haven't already paid for? Do they come in and plate it up for me? Are they going to lay the table?

No, they're just doing what has been paid for.

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Chazmer87 t1_j2a8kwl wrote

No, you're in the wrong job.

If you're not being paid enough to do it without the generosity of others then then that's not on the others.

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Kotaac t1_j2aago0 wrote

This why u deliver as a job

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bathrobe_boogee t1_j2ab378 wrote

Also so people rely on these apps to eat regularly as they are handicapped or something similar

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halpmeplz94 t1_j2abnm1 wrote

You are not the norm, but the exception. Cash is increasingly rare. People often frame scenarios around their own life and expectations, leading to subjective evaluations and logical misgivings.

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halpmeplz94 t1_j2abxyu wrote

But, you're only hurting the delivery drivers here.

You're giving the middle men bloodsuckers their cut, telling the peons to go fuck themselves, while complaining about the peons not giving quality service. Maybe stop using these services altogether if the system is that much of an issue for you?

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Indie611 t1_j2aipgm wrote

The real life tip is to get a job that doesn't rely on strangers choosing to subsidise your income and instead insist on being paid a fair wage by your employer.

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Adamon24 t1_j2aj2qt wrote

Better LPT: Make your own food. It’s cheaper, often healthier and you don’t need to worry about guys like this messing with your food.

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AcademicPepper t1_j2ak2hb wrote

I'm in the same boat, why would I not leave it up to the independent contractor to determine how much taxes they should pay. Plus services like Uber Eats take a two figure percentage of everything to begin with.

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Cinna93 t1_j2akaji wrote

Don't order out from Uber drivers in general. This is how people wanna treat you if you don't have money to tip? Please. I've worked in a restaurant and been stiffed. I'd never treat the customer that way. It's not the customers fault we have tipping culture in 2022. It's the place you're working. OP wants to complain about being a student and working on top of that but it's not gonna work for all of us who have been there done that and made it without being a complete jerk. Get a new job and treat people better. You're the problem.

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Woodpecker16669 t1_j2al36n wrote

Tipping is shit. Demand better wages. People shouldn't pay for what your boss doesn't.

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deadpandiane t1_j2alhkv wrote

I had a pizza delivered and the driver knocked and was getting in his car when I chased him down for a tip. I felt a bit ridiculous, was I dumb for tipping on top of delivery fee?

I only get pizza delivered because food delivery is confusing and complicated.

Maybe a smaller tip when there is a delivery fee, IDK. The delivery fee was just under 5 dollars. I tipped $4 for a $15 dollar pizza. It was fast, convenient, and very good.

The last time I picked up a pizza I was told how their work had doubled but not their pay. SMH

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kbad10 t1_j2anepo wrote

Tipping culture is stupid. No one should pay tips and no one should expect tips.

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NeedlesslySwanky t1_j2anw95 wrote

Your customers are not part of some shadowy cabal of non-tippers. They are all individuals. Punishing later orders for the actions of earlier orders just ruins everyone's day. You are providing deliberately bad service because nobody tips you, which means that nobody will tip you for your bad service. Customers get bad food, you get no tips, everyone loses.

Delivery 1, Alice orders a sandwich, doesn't tip. Delivery 2, Bob orders a burrito, also doesn't tip. Now you're mad, and start delivering cold food. Delivery 3, Cathy orders chow mein, would have tipped if it hadn't arrived cold. Deliveries 4-? arrive cold. Nobody tips for cold food, so now you're even angrier. As are the customers.

Literally nobody wins. Hell, you're probably hurting the restaurants you deliver from because cold food sucks.

It's one thing to be selfish, it's another thing to be this much of a fucking idiot about it.

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ParryLimeade t1_j2ao5sl wrote

Why don’t you get a job that actually pays what you want then instead of sabotaging peoples food

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halpmeplz94 t1_j2ao8pj wrote

No one ordering grocery delivery is a small child or infant. That is called a straw man analogy. And it is completely natural to divert frustrations to others, whether it is helpful or not is certainly situational.

Thank you for attacking my character at the first sign of disagreement, it allows me to flex my grown up skill of walking away. Good bye!

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buckleharry t1_j2aozz2 wrote

Honestly, if you were poor, why would you ever order delivered takeout food? I see that as a once in a while luxury, and I'm solidly middle class. And I sure as hell make sure I can tip when I decide to treat myself. I've been a contract delivery driver before, and you cannot live without the tips. It's baked into your compensation.

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markwhite123456 t1_j2asshn wrote

Their just going to get a refund and free food lmao. Please get a real job and whine less.

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Tarc_Axiiom t1_j2atmxv wrote

You wanna know why you get stiffed so much?

It's because most of the deliveries we get are fucked up in some way. Outside of New York City, I've only gotten 3 deliveries that were the correct items and arrived on time. 3! Out of literally dozens if not hundreds of orders.

I'll never stiff a driver but if I could tip after the fact everyone would have a better experience with these apps. As it stands now, I don't know a single one of your colleagues that deserves a tip tbh.

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Danit0_StyLeOG t1_j2avxsd wrote

Im not too broke to order, im too broke to tip for a maybe good delivery.

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Baxtfred t1_j2aw6so wrote

I think they’re trying to say if you can’t leave a tip don’t do delivery. Like when you go to a restaurant and don’t tip the waiter. I’ve seen people write “Too broke to tip, sorry!” Or “Single parent, sorry!” On HUGE bills. If you can afford the food, give them a tip.

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AtheistAgnostic t1_j2ayn93 wrote

Yep. Pre-tip and it's always fucked. I just tip if it's done well upon arrival... i.e. not driving in circles after picking up food, not parking to smoke for 20 minutes and delivering the nastiest smoke contaminated food, etc.

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dilligaf6304 t1_j2az1zb wrote

This really depends on your location. Tipping isn’t necessary in some countries.

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HelloS0n t1_j2b3jnu wrote

People like you are why I don’t use UberEats/DoorDash lol. Tip preemptively and get a fucked up order. Tip post-delivery and the driver already thinks they ain’t getting shit, so you get subpar service.

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yesthatgirlisme t1_j2b48g2 wrote

No one is forcing you to work a job you hate when you’re an at will worker, you can quit at any time.

If there wasn’t a need for delivery you’d be out of a job quickly because there’s no reason for you to get paid to deliver air.

Instead of focusing on the lack of tips, be grateful when you do get it and focus on transitioning from this shitty job to one you like or better yet start a business where you make the rules and demand your worth 👍🏿

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[deleted] t1_j2b7rq5 wrote

We see from where the food gets delivered. If it's a distance that won't cool it off, be sure to get reported, especially when your co worker delivers it hot.

what a petty person you are. If you don't like your job... find another one.

oh and i never tip in the app, i tip directly because you know ... nobody needs to know. But not like this my man.. not like this. And i'm german .. we don't need to tip because our employers pay enough. So hold them accountable but not the customers.

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MartinLanius t1_j2bco6d wrote

So you are just making it worse for everyone. What a fucking joke you are lol

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OurHeroXero t1_j2bef12 wrote

American tip culture is incredibly toxic and needs to come to an end. We all need to pressure our congressmen; employees need to be paid/guaranteed a minimum wage.

It isn't the customers responsibility to decide if a worker gets to eat/pay rent/etc... That's their employers job to pay their staff.

T.I.P.S. To Insure Prompt Service. Except people take it as an offense when you don't hand out free cash. Employees like OP are why I don't trust people around my food. The system sucks and screws workers over, and if I don't attempt to make it right, the shit trickles down to me.

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NeedlesslySwanky t1_j2bf5c6 wrote

Seriously. OP is completely delusional. "The bad service will continue until tipping improves?" Fuck that, I'll be going literally anywhere else that'll actually deliver what I order without sabotage.

And it's not just delivering cold food, either. OP flippantly gloats about spitting in people's food. During a pandemic.

Serious question. Does anybody know who OP drives for, so we can report them for being a sentient health code violation? My dad is sick with cancer, so immunocompromised. He orders delivery sometimes. If I found out that OP had spit in his food for any reason, there would exist no walls on this earth that would protect OP from my wrath.

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OurHeroXero t1_j2bf8sa wrote

Exactly. I understand the industry sucks, but we've allowed it to become what it is (When was the last time you heard/saw employees go on strike? No one can afford to strike anymore and are forever backed into a corner/reliant on scraps to make ends meet).

We all need to relentlessly pressure our congressmen to end this toxic American tip culture

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OurHeroXero t1_j2bh8p7 wrote

Maybe you should quit for not being promised a minimum/salaried wage by your employer. It isn't the customers responsibility to pay the staff of a restaurant their wages.

You're mad at the customer...when you should be enraged at your employer.

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tonyohanlon77 t1_j2br3bc wrote

Say your an asshole without saying you're an asshole

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Megzilllla t1_j2bt0xt wrote

The driver doesn’t get the delivery fee, at all. None of it. They just use it to further subsidize paying drivers the lower than minimum wage base pay they give them. Meaning it benefits the company, not the guy who is destroying his car bringing pizza to your door in any weather.

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TrishaThoon t1_j2bymf3 wrote

OP should not be allowed near anyone’s food at all.

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Anerky t1_j2c36v8 wrote

It’s impossible to beat the wage tipped workers wake off of tips tbh otherwise a shitty serving/bartending/delivery job would start at $25/hr and most would honestly probably be at $40-50hr, margins in the foodservice business are relatively low compared to many other industries so the customer gets the short end of the stick

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revuhlution t1_j2c39gc wrote

Bro the system is manipulating you, fucking you, hoping you'll hate your neighbor, instead of giving you (and them) a living.

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2c7st7 wrote

Lol but it's not really funny-funny. I'm a big tipper depending upon which type of service I'm using. Food Delivery Drivers of any kind should be tipped well.

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2c8zxa wrote

I'm a cash tipper. No app is going g to tell me how to spend my money. I tip well when I can, almost always a healthy, tya, cash tip. Unless the Driver refuses to follow simple instructions, like don't leave food on the deck bc the rats, or other humans will get to it first, ants get into everything, inclement weather destroys paper/cardboard. Most drivers are fantastic and kind, I keep special money set aside, ready for those people. I also gift the mail carrier and the extra special UPS drivers. But AH with attitude who ruin stuff, no.

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thisisrealgoodtea t1_j2ca1dp wrote

A popular restaurant in our area went to no tip, but had to slightly increase prices to compensate. It did not go well. They had to go back to tipping to not close and lost a lot of regular guests. I’m all for no tipping, but restaurant failure rate is already so high, it may have to be a state or nationwide movement for us to ever see that.

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2cabmi wrote

You've never traveled out of the States. In JA they want a tip for saying hello.. But no matter which country you're visiting, every hotel guest tips the bellhop and the cleaning person. It's a kind of Pay It Forward, sometimes. The more you choke hold onto your money the less of it will come your way.

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Argyrus777 t1_j2cajms wrote

“Don’t get a job that relies on other people’s generosity”

Not my quote btw

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2cc19o wrote

Lol, I've gone outside in PJs after a Driver who I'd forgotten to tip bc we had such a great conversation that he was gonna be late. Not a pizza order, obviously, they cant chat. I never forget them. More like grocery delivery Drivers. But forced tips on apps. Nope. I tip well for good service even if it's gotta be done thru the app. Uber drivers are a whole other issue.

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jadeeyedcalico t1_j2cct5u wrote

You're the asshole here, not them. I have to get delivery for groceries and such because I can't drive for medical reasons. Sometimes I'm really pressed on cash and can't afford more than 10 cents for the tip. You don't know the situation some people live in, and it's childish to go out of your way to lessen the quality of the goods they paid for. Quite frankly, I'd refuse to tip for that behavior alone.

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2cct7l wrote

Ew, Drivers spit on food? Well that's it for me. Nuking frozen food or geabbingv salads from a bag or box using grocery delivery. Once upon a time I could move around, had a car bought my own groceries and loved to cook. Then everything turned upside down not long after, COVID hit. God, it never occurred to me that someone would spit on my food bc the last delivery went wrong.

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2ce5lh wrote

Yup. It sure ain't the late '60s anymore. And it gets worse as you get older. I'm just outside City proper and anything goes, no rules, no etiquette, no more hanging out with neighbors. Even the cops don't gas. (PS Never buy a condo. there are no laws that protect owners).

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2ceqrr wrote

I wasn't "generalizing everything," but I've been all over the world, and it's rare that a tip is considered a rude gesture. In some countries, they dread seeing American guests bc we're considered loud, demanding, complainers, and terrible tippers.

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PresentAir1133 t1_j2cfafv wrote

I'm also disabled and knock everything over or drop things. In a 4 story home, it gets old cleaning constantly. I'll join you on the limb and guess that the oven is older than you are. So, after setting the microwave on fire, then set the oven on fire with some good, old ,home cookin...I gave up.

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use_the_schwartz t1_j2cg71o wrote

My work will periodically give us gift certificates to Uber Eats/DoorDash/GrubHub, and every single time I tell my wife “no I’ll make the order on the app and go pick it up myself,” and people like you are exactly the reason why.

And yes, I do leave them at least 20% tip because I’ve worked in food service, but the way you handle little annoyances makes me worry for you when you have big time problems down the road in life. Sort yourself out and grow up.

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neophanweb t1_j2co5m1 wrote

I did 200 deliveries on doordash and received tips only 5 times. It's bad, but tips are optional and I knew that going in. If all low tippers stopped ordering, you'd be out of the job. I know, it sucks but the apps markup menu items already and milk all the service fees while you blame the customers.

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Imaginary_Fan2003 t1_j2cwn8z wrote

Buddy... There's a greater chance you'll be tipped if they get their food hot

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smakto t1_j2cybj1 wrote

Holy fucking shit this whole thread makes me happy about tipping culture where I live. Here tipping is a "thanks" for a job well done, not something mandatory and expected even before service. OP sounds like other peoples food temperature is the only thing he has control of in his life.

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Sofiwyn t1_j2d6b9o wrote

This isn't a LPT, this is your personal vent.

I never tip well until after I've received my food in good condition. I don't use Doordash because they have shitty drivers and don't let you change your tip after the delivery.

People aren't stiffing you because they're broke, they're stiffing you because they've been burned by drivers like you.

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jabberwockgee t1_j2d6m7s wrote

You think that's a good idea?

You'll only not fuck up people's orders if they pretip?

Good, then you'll get rid of non-tippers and people who tip in cash after verifying their food wasn't fucking destroyed.

But what about the other side of the coin? Drivers who are terrible and fuck up food regardless of the tip.

So the perfect situation in your eyes is everyone should tip, and tip well, before knowing if their food will arrive intact and x% of deliveries will be mangled and the drivers will be rewarded for it.

I wonder what equilibrium this will lead to in terms of percentage of food delivered in good condition when word gets out that you don't have to even do the bare minimum to get awesome pay.

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sgong33 t1_j2dcqbg wrote

Unfortunately with theses apps, drivers are incentivized by seeing the tip before they accept the order. They don’t know that you’re going to tip cash and prob assume it’s a no tip order. Those orders tend to sit in the restaurant longer as drivers will pass on that pickup in order to take a tipped order. I learned this this hard way.

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inquizz t1_j2djcdi wrote

Asking for empathy but refusing to give it.

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TheBluesDoser t1_j2dl5d6 wrote

OP can put a stiff one up where the sun don’t shine

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tragiktimes t1_j2dzu1a wrote

If you're not going to do your job without getting extras then you're probably not emotionally intelligent enough to hold a better paying position. I'd recommend a hard change to your mentality or you're going to be on a long shitty ride.

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Skyblacker t1_j2e1mex wrote

Edible doesn't mean tasty. Sometimes it's a pile of mush that you can only choke down enough to quell stomach rumbling. Most of it goes to compost, which isn't the best use of resources.

That said, I only order delivery when I'm too sick to cook nor drive but the kids still need to be fooded. Otherwise I'll heat something at home or pick up my own damn carryout.

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tragiktimes t1_j2e2gao wrote

  • Brown 1lb sausage.
  • Add 2 tbsp butter and melt.
  • Add heaping 3 tbsp flour.
  • Mix and cook for 3min on med.
  • Add about 3" milk.
  • Season with salt and pepper.
  • Bring to boil.
  • Add biscuits to oven at 350 for 10 min.
  • Reduce to medium and stir every few minutes.
  • Done in 30 min.

This will be some of the best biscuits and gravy you've ever had. That's a least one solid meal to add to your recipe book.

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Skyblacker t1_j2e5rxx wrote

If you didn't learn to cook at your mother's knee, it's a skill that has to be learned as an adult. Which makes the mental load of it much higher. Every meal takes more deliberate effort and is less likely to actually be consumed. Which is discouraging.

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august_r t1_j2f34yq wrote

And once again, I'm grateful I'm not in the USA.

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