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DAT_DROP t1_iu6j0dz wrote

Left her cellphone on the corner of the table

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sindrome7 t1_iu6j2pc wrote

That male looking female was a Na21 sympathizer.

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forespy183 t1_iu6lxre wrote

This may sound insensitive but it is so hard for me to imagine lesbians being so out like that. Like, it is hard to imagine gay people existed before a certain time.

Obviously they did but it just makes me so happy to see these woman out and happy in the 30s.

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artenazura t1_iu6w46l wrote

Replying to forespy183 (#299,475)

It's fascinating to learn how much gay people existed as themselves in history, it's not something we learn about in school... I think this photo is from the club Le Monocle

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mrchevyss t1_iu6wf76 wrote

A few years later, France surrendered

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walluper t1_iu6zwww wrote

Thought that was k.d. lang at first blush.

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RGeronimoH t1_iu71hap wrote

This has been posted at least 20 times and everyone but you got their facts correct. 1932 @ Club Le Monocle

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varn96 t1_iu7208n wrote

And we're sure this isn't a behind the scenes photo from Goodfellas?

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adavi608 t1_iu7293r wrote

Why do their facial features look more or less the same as they do today? Just curious.

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Onarm t1_iu7eqea wrote

fyi the one on the right is Violette Morris.

She was a French Nazi, tortured people for the Nazis, and ran supplies for the Nazis. She was openly supportive of Hitler before Vichy.

She got gunned down in an ambush the French Resistance set for her midwar.

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Daddydick-nuts t1_iu7esds wrote

Replying to CaptainTheta (#302,606)

Indeed our genetics haven’t changed, but in in terms of height and body shape we have changed a lot then. Most People were shorter and had a more thin and slender appearance over a century ago.

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ashpanda24 t1_iu7gysg wrote

Replying to WhoBroughtTheCoolKid (#301,080)

It absolutely is, but as we can see from our own timeline, there are people who absolutely shouldn't back certain groups and movements because they're a part of one of the demographic groups that movement/group speaks out against...yet they're still a part of them and see themselves as the exception.

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tritron t1_iu7i811 wrote

Looks like sister and brother having lunch

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4w0k3 t1_iu7j7n2 wrote

Whoa, that’s enough to gag a maggot! It more than obvious that they became lesbians out of necessity! Hahaha

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imeeme t1_iu7msry wrote

TIL, lesbians love men with vagines.

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mr_mcgibblets12 t1_iu7p7mt wrote

So lesbians have been dressing like dykes since at least the 30’s. Interesting.

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[deleted] t1_iu7thaw wrote

Looks kinda like Rosie What’s-her-name.

What’s her name? The lesbian looking one? Looks like a lesbian?

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SnowDoom6 t1_iu7vyal wrote

Replying to madDarthvader2 (#305,721)

A lesbian Nazi woman and woman. They possibly had some tolerance for her especially for her service and dedication to Nazi Germany and service to Hitler. But they definitely would not tolerate a man and a man.

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mjkjg2 t1_iu7wlnp wrote

at that point why not just date a dude

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Aoxomoxoa75 t1_iu83yqh wrote

Damn. That dude on the right with all the big dick energy. 👊🤘

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llilaq t1_iu8b6u5 wrote

Replying to Onarm (#304,635)

The only reason I clicked this thread was to see if they survived the war or were sent to a camp. Unexpected to say the least..

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Eire4ever37 t1_iu8dw1x wrote

That is one scary looking man, woman, whatever. Yikes!! I’d give her my wallet in a heartbeat

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spitfayar t1_iu8gmkj wrote

She reminds me of Merritt Wever in Godless actually. Which is very fitting

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kalowas1 t1_iu8hss4 wrote

Lots of very insecure men in the comments 🙄

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elixier t1_iu8ltdl wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#310,768)

I don't get your obsession with defending a Nazi sympathiser, she's not a War historian by the way either, she's an art historian through and through.

When historians who actually dedicate their lives to the war era say she assisted the Nazis, with the ONLY debabatable part of it being the tortures, I'm not going to look at a source written by an author who is clearly in the high risk category for bias, who isn't a specialist in the area. We know for a fact she worked to supply Nazi troops. We know she was Hitlers honoured guest at the Olympics. We know she was considered at the time a member of the French wing of the Gestapo. The fact the resistance, who risked their lives to free France considered her a priority target should speak to the fact she was obviously more than a basic sympathiser. Was she a torturer, who knows. But the fact you brush of even basic sympathiser is fucking disgusting. "Basic" Nazi sympathisers still deserve the electric chair. Fuck glorifying Nazis or their supporters, no matter how basic

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WriteAsRain t1_iu8mkv4 wrote

In the novel Lovers at the Chameleon Club, Paris 1932 by Francine Prose, she’s portrayed by one of the characters. It’s a good read

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connstar97 t1_iu8on26 wrote

I thought that was Babe Ruth!

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adavi608 t1_iu8qcca wrote

Replying to CaptainTheta (#302,606)

Yeah, I just associate things with other things. The only thing separating them from my personal stereotype of a lesbian couple today is haircut and outfit. It doesn’t always hold, I just noticed it.

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boltsandyotes t1_iu8swuw wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#309,996)

It was investigated and was a big deal.

Paragraph 175 outlawed homosexuality in Germany and the Nazis burned down Magnus Hirschfeld institute of sexual studies.

Over 100,00 gay men were killed in concentration camps. And an unknown number of lesbians (they where categorized differently).

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madcat2112 t1_iu8uj8z wrote

I didn’t know Rosie was that old.

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ArmchairQuack t1_iu8yj76 wrote

And the one on the right didn't even have to cut off her breasts.

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Cashbeking t1_iu8z76k wrote

With a couple of faces that would peel paint.

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DaytonTD t1_iu94tti wrote

This was circa 2015. You can see the S6 edge on the table bottom right

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fman84 t1_iu98nph wrote

It's interesting to me how most gay and lesbian couples still take on soft gender roles despite being attracted to the same gender. Not arguing for against same gender attraction. Just an observation.

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PenisTriumvirate t1_iu9pwd3 wrote

Replying to ashpanda24 (#305,011)

You see demographics support groups that speak out against them and your take away is......they shouldn't do that. You never wonder why they would? No consideration for their motives? Not a single moment to consider perhaps they see something you don't and that's why they've made their choice....You just know they shouldn't.

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Onarm t1_iua08jl wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#309,873)

Not really?

The torture stuff may have been fabricated by the Marquis to justify the killing of minors, but the rest is very easily traceable. We know she visited Berlin during the Olympics. We know she was buddy buddy with the Gestapo. We know she fed them intel.

We know during Vichy she was given preferential treatment by the Nazis/Gestapo.

She was a Nazi agent and collaborator, and was very pro Reich. She just may not have been a sadist. Which is splitting hairs, as she'd have known what they were doing to minority communities. She was openly supportive of people who were rounding up and killing people.

Yes it's not fair that they took away her ability to compete, but that's no excuse for knowingly participating in a genocide. She deserved her death.

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ponyduder t1_iua63nb wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#316,885)

I am very desirous of pouring out much gall on your personal life, accursed translator being in the service of the perfidious albion. You are only a crook as well as a soft purse

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WitchsWeasel t1_iua9fc8 wrote

Replying to fman84 (#315,296)

I suspect some confirmation bias here. Usually, when people see two feminine women together, they tend to automatically assume they're friends. But the moment one of them looks more on the butch side of things, then they notice and they see a lesbian couple instead.

That being said, I've also once heard an argument from a lesbian as to why that may still occur more often than random: insecurities may be easier to navigate the more different people are in a couple. It would be more about minimizing envy than "filling a role" in the couple. That being said, I'm not sure how much we can generalize that from that anecdotical perspective.

There also may be other things going on, people are multidimensional. r/AskLesbians surely has more reliable answers.

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WitchsWeasel t1_iuaae6e wrote

Replying to sindrome7 (#313,590)

if you want to be polite, at least call her a woman, not a female x) priorities, man

but yeah, butch has been reclaimed in recent years and is the appropriate term afaik

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Elsbethe t1_iuaceuk wrote

Replying to WitchsWeasel (#322,180)

In all fairness it is complicated

We are labeling them a lesbian couple

We are calling one of them Butch

They may identify us a straight couple

The more masculine person May identify as a man or a or as a trans man, Or in the language of the day as a transvestite, Or cross dresser

We don't know how people labeled themselves especially especially in a world with so few labels

I appreciate that you think that Butch has been reclaimed but as a woman who has loved Butches my whole life I assure you that the word has never gone out of style at all

I think the most useful term would have been "the one who is more masculine. "

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WitchsWeasel t1_iuaij5e wrote

Replying to Elsbethe (#322,547)

True, I just checked out their wikipedia page. They used to wear binders and underwent a double mastectomy, and somewhat changed their name to a much more gender ambiguous one. I think it's safe to say that's pretty far into trans territory, especially for the time. Unfortunately, we don't have a language that has any wiggle room to speak of when it comes to gender neutrality, with all the issues it creates when it comes to defining gender on a spectrum, so there's that.

Also, duly noted for butch, though female still sounds bad either way. Not that that nazi deserved any courtesy, but eeh. Thanks for sharing your perspective, I appreciate it!

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skumgummii t1_iucrqmq wrote

Replying to Raskolnikovs_Axe (#315,192)

so lemme get thisstraight. If you are in a relationship with someone then you automatically not only share the same political ideology as them, but you also retroactively gain any new opinions they might have later in life? I had a girlfriend like 15 years ago, today she's kind of a hippie anarchist, does that make me an anarchist too?

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Raskolnikovs_Axe t1_iudgwxv wrote

Replying to skumgummii (#338,836)

"If you see someone eating dinner with 10 Nazis, you're seeing 11 Nazis eating dinner.". I'm sure you've heard it, I think the saying actually comes from Germany.

If you think the saying is oversimplifying, that's fair. I always understood it to be more of a cautionary comment on the dangers of complacently sliding into extreme ideology, from a country that has deep experience with that. But of course if you apply it everywhere and in every context you can pick it apart.

In this context however - a true and unabashed Nazi party supporter, during the time the Nazi party actually existed, in Nazi occupied France no less - I don't feel any doubt in assuming the saying is 100% true, and that both Morris and her date are Nazis.

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