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Huffy_too t1_j79cmnb wrote

I've spent a lot of time in Amish country. They treat their horses about the same way you treat your car's motor.

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CltAltAcctDel t1_j79nrwu wrote

I treat my car very well. Regular maintenance, high quality fuel, proper tire pressure, keep it clean etc. that’s the exact opposite of what the Amish do to their animals

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Pink_Slyvie t1_j79q9yx wrote

>the exact opposite of what the Amish do to their animals

And how they treat their women.

The Amish are not good people.

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Taztiger72 t1_j79y5i8 wrote

Thank God they don't vote.

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ColonelSwanson t1_j7ayarp wrote

Amish do vote. As a Lancaster County resident I have seen plenty of Amish men at the polls.

Article from 2020 election: https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/was-2020-a-breakout-year-for-amish-voters-heres-what-the-numbers-show/article_f77af684-32a7-11eb-b3ec-13a56697652f.html

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what_no_ice t1_j7a9ksc wrote

Oh but they do put political signs out..

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Taztiger72 t1_j7bh12z wrote

Amazing that means if they would vote they too believe Donnie is the Messiah What so do JWs! We are gonna have another great schism in Christianity one that stay Christian the other cold hearted scum.

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andrewcubbie t1_j7d1d1k wrote

Seriously. I hate how people glorify the amish. They're shitty people and let their horses shit where they please, beat and abuse their family, run abusive dog breeding mills, etc

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Hugsie924 t1_j7bumu4 wrote

There is an ex-Amish guy named Eli Yoder who does some shorts and videos on youtube. He describes what it's like in "old order" Amish. I know it's one guy, but he includes other ex Amish. He talks about lots of things, good and bad, but mostly bad, lots of heavy stuff.

Does it mean they are all pieces of 💩, no, but they certainly aren't special..if anything, they are just like regular society, but they wear funny hats....

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j79d1qh wrote

Oh yeah dogs too. Amish are awful to animals. They shouldn’t be allowed to own them. Doesn’t mean it makes a bad picture. Lol

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friskimykitty t1_j79db2f wrote

A lot of puppy mills are run by the Amish.

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j79gsoz wrote

Yes, it’s awful. They treat animals like crap. The Amish aren’t an amazing people. But the horse is innocent & beautiful.

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dogmomdrinkstea t1_j79yqmg wrote

Can confirm, my childhood dog was from an Amish puppy mill (fucking yikes, sorry Hammer - you were a good girl).

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LillianH55 t1_j7azm7k wrote

A very accurate analogy. Some owners spend tens of thousands of dollars on a high end horse and devote lots of time and money to maintenance - chiropractor, massage, specialty diet supplements. Others run their horse ragged on minimal care and their horse is the equivalent to an '89 Chevy Cavalier. Some horses also just hold up better physically to the demands of the job.

Source me. I've been retiring and recycling ex buggy horses into new careers for over 20 years in central PA. There are good and bad in their community just like ours. Im not a fan of generalizations about whole groups of people.

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labdogs42 t1_j7b03cp wrote

Oh cool. I didn’t know there was such a thing as buggy horse rehab/rehoming. That’s awesome that you do that!

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Hazel1928 t1_j7bys0j wrote

Is there any crossover between Amish horses and the rich people horse farms in southern Chester County? (Doe Run on to Newark) Maybe they get Amish to shoe their horses?

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anuhu t1_j7clewm wrote

Not really. It's very, very rare. Sometimes the "English" will get a former plow horse as a pasture ornament/steady eddy type for kids/visitors to trail ride. And sometimes regular/non Amish farriers don't want to work with the big drafts who aren't as good about keeping their hooves up for farrier work so in those cases I suppose someone might use an Amish farrier with stocks. And I suppose some people who like driving horses might get harnesses from the Amish harness makers, but very few non-amish drive horses.

Gnerally the non-Amish in southern chester county are looking for a much, much higher quality of care than the amish provide.

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Hazel1928 t1_j7dmtkf wrote

I live just south of Coatesville and I have a daughter in Hockessin and a daughter in Wilmington. Plus two on call jobs in Wilmington. So I drive through the horse farms and just general beautiful landscape and very old houses often. Such a lovely drive. We (my husband and I) call it our Jane Austen land. And consider these two daughters used to live one in Manyunk and the ither close to the art museum. So we were on the Schukyll to visit our grandchildren. But new jobs, both sons in law ended up in Delaware within a year of each other. One is a lawyer and the other is a scientist. So lots of business in both those fields in Wilmington.

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Linuxxx t1_j7b1uv6 wrote

I'd posit that they treat them like I treat a rental car. Pushed to the physical limits with no concerns about the long-term repercussions.

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notallwonderarelost t1_j79mng4 wrote

I mean they treat animals like property. Every farmer treats chickens about the same. Amish just happen to treat dogs like farmers treat chickens. Most people feel like dogs should get special treatment. Not saying I agree with them but they don’t treat dogs any different than any farmer treats chickens.

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Hot_Nefariousness_80 t1_j7bam1u wrote

They only keep the carriage horses until they’re 15yo or so then auction them off and get a younger one.

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acutomanzia t1_j79cwip wrote

I guess they’re not as enlightened as you. Why even bother commenting if you don’t have anything constructive to say

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CocoaMotive t1_j79mg71 wrote

You have to be enlightened to disapprove of animal cruelty?

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acutomanzia t1_j79tpiz wrote

The OP likes seeing horses with buggy carriages, why dump on that? Don’t bum everyone out because someone feels the need to stand on a soapbox

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CocoaMotive t1_j7c15d9 wrote

People aren't dumping on that at all, they're not saying it's wrong to enjoy seeing the Amish, they're making the observation that they tend to have a terrible reputation for the mistreatment of their animals. You can appreciate the photo and still understand they're a community with plenty of flaws.

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acutomanzia t1_j7h2dik wrote

EVERYONE has flaws. Do you go around pointing them out? This is what's wrong with the Internet; if you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything.

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CocoaMotive t1_j7hn9m1 wrote

If it's a community well known for it's terrible treatment of women and animals, yes. If you're looking for only nice things to be said about people, the internet is the wrong place for you.

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angeloistrash t1_j79qviv wrote

well i'm tired of it. amish are nasty weird people and shouldn't be allowed to abuse animals the way they do.

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j79qzef wrote

They shouldn’t be allowed to. But that’s a failure of the PA legislature for not writing strong enough laws.

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dogmomdrinkstea t1_j79yi2q wrote

I've seen those 2 lb rolls of Amish butter in the grocery store and I get tempted to buy it bc of it's higher fat content, then I'm like mmm nope fuck that I'm not intentionally supporting the Amish. Sure, I understand "no ethical consumption under capitalism", but I still do my best to put my money where my morals are.

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RaceSignificant1794 t1_j7acysj wrote

It's a cult. They abuse the animals, women and children or are complicit. Nasty religious abusers.

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mattd1972 t1_j79gxvc wrote

Out in Millersburg, OH, the Walmart has a whole parking lot row with a horse shelter.

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[deleted] t1_j79jghc wrote

I’m surprised shopping at Walmart is allowed in their religion.

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googlebearbanana t1_j7ap3nd wrote

They ride city buses, shop at stores, and eat at restaurants now.

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Marqueso-burrito t1_j7c4uww wrote

I think you’re thinking of mennonites

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googlebearbanana t1_j7cdpho wrote

No I'm thinking of the Amish. I see them all the time in grocery stores, dollar stores, and fast food places.

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davyncarulli t1_j7cecn4 wrote

I've only known 1 Mennonite family, but also a whole lotta amish. The Mennonite family actually drove their own cars and didn't really live on a farm, they did have a huge garden though. Amish usually always live on a farm, and pay the English for rides or use the horse and buggy.

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AsBadAsAWetShit t1_j7d1dis wrote

I’m not trying to argue, as I’m sure you’re closer to the plain folk than I am, but is it a fact that Amish “usually always live on a farm”, or do we just associate them with farming work? Land for farming, even in PA, can be very expensive. I doubt these communities are full of wealthy people waiting to bestow farming money to their 13 children when they all reach adulthood. There are a ton of Amish carpenters, craftsmen, and various other occupations. I’d say it’s actually quite more likely the majority of the Amish are not farmers. I’m little just talking out of my ass while eating ice cream, so I’m probably wrong.

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Similar-Roll5056 t1_j7d2qug wrote

The majority of amish in lancaster county are farmers. They are self sufficient and have knowledge of many different skills. The farms have been handed down for generations. Both amish and mennonites are ridiculously wealthy but are obviously very modest.

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Hazel1928 t1_j7g5n3n wrote

But if you have 6-8 children, and 85% stay Amish, you can’t hand down the farm to all of them. I live in Chester County, which adjoins Lancaster County. There are still plenty of farmers, but there isn’t enough land to keep up with the growing Amish population. So I don’t think a majority are farmers. Therefore of them have businesses doing carpentry, building and selling furniture, operating stalls at markets (where they sell fruits and vegetables, baked goods, wooden handicrafts, fabric handicrafts, homemade candy, fresh squeezed lemonade, soft pretzels, and more). We had an Amish guy install hardwood floors and he referred us to another Amish guy that built our kitchen cabinets. Everything was done to perfection, and we really enjoy it.

And in Lancaster County, there are many tourists, so the Amish provide services to the tourists: buggy rides, stores with Amish baked goods and handicrafts, tours of Amish farms.

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SgtBaxter t1_j7b0kv5 wrote

They have a huge market in Timonium, MD and make the best hot wings I've ever had.

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FightTomorrow t1_j7btyop wrote

I don’t know about huge — it’s a lot smaller than other ones around southern Pa. But yea great food, just always so damn crowded and squished in there.

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DirtWizardDisciples t1_j7bhxv3 wrote

I recently watched the Mental Floss episode on Misconceptions about the Amish (YouTube) and it was pretty enlightening. It seems like if something may not be the Amish way but if it's a tool/resource that supports the Amish way, community elders/leaders may support its use in a proper capacity

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Hazel1928 t1_j7byarr wrote

There is a horse shed at the Walmart in Parkesburg. I see lots of Amish shopping there. Teenagers, presumably in rumspringa, dressed in Amish clothing, but buying video games. And other ages too. I feel a little disillusioned when I see Doritos and cookies in their carts, I thought they made everything from scratch. But I am definitely fascinated with them and admire many things about them. The Amish population in the US is growing very fast. They have an average of 6-8 children and 85% stay Amish. So they have started new settlements in some rural areas in the US and even in South America. I hope they can keep their culture and not lose it due to fast growth.

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tansugaqueen t1_j7c3dsb wrote

yeah I seeit too, some even ha e cellphones, I have been told the amish “menionites” (sp?) have adapted to more worldly things than traditional Amish

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Top_File_8547 t1_j7cfqhn wrote

The McDonalds has them in Berlin, Ohio.

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_dontgiveuptheship t1_j7chhyz wrote

Berlin (that's BER-lin) is also home to the Behalt Cyclorama, a 10'x265' painting depicting the history of the Amish and Mennonites :

https://behalt.com/behalt-cyclorama/

and the world's largest Amish buggy (https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11580).

Not to be confused with the world's largest Amish horse and buggy (https://www.sculpturecenter.org/oosi/items/show/1527#:~:text=The%20world's%20largest%20horse%20and,2300%20board%20feet%20of%20lumber.) in Mesopotamia.

Or the world's largest Amish buddy that also happens to be an ATM (https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/16511#:~:text=The%20Amish%20Buggy%20ATM%20machine,definitely%20off%20the%20beaten%20path.&text=The%20horse%20and%20carriage%20is,ground%20and%20the%20fiberglass%20horse.) in Wellington.

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shpfro86 t1_j7cugyx wrote

Every store in the county outside of Lancaster City has buggy parking. We are Amish Country.

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mattd1972 t1_j7d14av wrote

I’ve definitely seen them in Lancaster, but never one as long as that one in Ohio.

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what_no_ice t1_j7a9hlh wrote

I’m fucking tired of seeing their shit all over the road.. I’m also fucking tired of them not paying road tax and not cleaning it up.

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starion832000 t1_j7btny2 wrote

I've always said what a double standard it is that you can get fined for not picking up dog poop, but a horse? Let it fly.

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vectorizer99 t1_j79f2vl wrote

I get tired of seeing buggies in front of me on winding back roads when I'm trying to get somewhere.

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artful_todger_502 t1_j79i3dw wrote

Nobody forced you to drive there. Maybe you should let them know you need to get somewhere and they can stay off the road that day?

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PM_SOME_OBESE_CATS t1_j7a0vap wrote

My job's location and my need to pay bills did in fact force me to drive there

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DicksOutForGrapeApe t1_j7ajomo wrote

The horse and buggy are charming. So are the bonnets, beards, chainless kick cycles, and suspenders, but let’s not forget about the sister raping

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JohnStow1726 t1_j79ywly wrote

You would if you had any idea that they are super uber far right and voted fir Trump.

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sirloinfurr t1_j7be7b4 wrote

Yeah, I've worked with a bunch of Amish on construction jobs. And everyone one of them was trump-loving, inbred white trash.

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JohnStow1726 t1_j7bnb64 wrote

Sounds like you know a lot about being inbred you bigot.

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sirloinfurr t1_j7bo872 wrote

Sounds like you don't know anything at all. The Amish are so well known for inbreeding that they're subjects of numerous medical schools. https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/endocrinology/Amish-Research-Program/

And yes, a majority of trump fanatics are white trash lol

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Hazel1928 t1_j7c4gbz wrote

Yeah, the Amish suffer from the “founder effect” All of them are descended from about 200 German immigrants. So there is an opportunity for recessive genes to come through.

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Buddy_Fluffy t1_j7aq4h0 wrote

They don’t vote, dingbat.

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ima_mandolin t1_j7atdq7 wrote

About 10% of Amish do vote, and they overwhelmingly supported Trump.

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ColonelSwanson t1_j7ay2y7 wrote

Can confirm, as a Lancaster county resident, I have seen plenty of Amish men at the polls.

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JAS10489 t1_j79n1sx wrote

Bro it’s like 20 fuckin degrees out today take the horse home ffs lol

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j79oyvy wrote

This is from Wednesday actually. I was a little late on posting.

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JAS10489 t1_j79p0v5 wrote

I retract my horse statement then lol

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j79pgfd wrote

But I did see another one on the road today. So your statement is valid! Just not for this horse lol

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Rmlady12152 t1_j7bl013 wrote

They way they treat the women and children is beyond disgusting. It’s deranged.

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MrSchaudenfreude t1_j79zrrh wrote

Yeah, until you have somewhere to be and get stuck behind one.

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Garmand3r t1_j79l8hb wrote

Haha I got yelled at for trying to take a picture of a buggy for a school project. They believe it steals their soul I guess?

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BelligerentSeaOtter t1_j79mzfb wrote

Not true. They just don't like to be photographed going about their daily lives -- especially when it's a photo of a child. It happens to them multiple times whenever they go in public, especially in the summer / tourist season.

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Hazel1928 t1_j7c4w6i wrote

You are both wrong. They believe that humans are created in the image of God and that it is wrong to make “graven images” so they don’t agree with photos or drawings of people, and their dolls have blank faces.

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BelligerentSeaOtter t1_j7c815y wrote

No, I'm not wrong. I'm ex-Mennonite with Amish family. Their dolls do not have blank faces. Maybe the extreme white toppers, but not the conventional black toppers. You're right that they're biblical literalists though.

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Garmand3r t1_j7crldq wrote

I'm not wrong either. The guy who yelled at me was wrong.

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Plastic-Lawfulness55 t1_j7dgkho wrote

posing for photos is "proud" and generally they won't do it. not saying all Amish follow the same hard and fast rules. my son in law saw an Amish woman in a train station and was surprised she was carrying a handbag! I told him of course she had a bag, was she supposed to carry all her stuff in her hands?

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Kindredmen t1_j7bbhjy wrote

But they're annoying when your car is cresting a hill and there's one in front of you going 15mph.

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starion832000 t1_j7btgfo wrote

You'll notice he parked his buggy right in the middle of the parking lot. This is a perfect metaphor for all Amish.

Lived in Berks county side by side with these guys for a decade. Can't say I left with a positive impression of the Amish. They're a cult that are treated like some tribe of indigenous white people.

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Mr_Fraunces t1_j7b1itx wrote

They do use electricity just not in the home. They can use electricity in their outbuildings and buildings used for business.

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j7a9hkp wrote

Well, they have a man named Ezekiel who estimates the price of each grocery

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JohnDeere714 t1_j7c23gn wrote

They pay in 100s and only in 100s if you’re lucky they’ll give you a 50

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googlebearbanana t1_j7aozav wrote

I find it interesting that these buggies are painted. In Lawrence County the Amish don't paint the wood on their buggies.

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Redlar t1_j7bh3dx wrote

The different groups have different rules, someone wants to do something different but their current group doesn't so they splinter off creating a group that allows the thing (sorry if you already know this)

For example, Ohio Amish don't have the same rules as Lancaster/PA Amish. How the buggies look is dictated by the group they belong to

Years ago I recall reading about a group in Ohio that's so strict about electrical use that they don't even allow electricity for a well pump, instead they use a horse hitched to a mechanical device to pump the water

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Southboundthylacine t1_j7au0dw wrote

I do, I drive a white mustang and I’m constantly cleaning horse poop off of it.

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PantsAre4Squares t1_j7c7io6 wrote

As much as I agree with your sentiment, I can't help but enjoy the irony of horse shit on a Mustang. Especially as a Camaro owner.

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Playful-Excuse-8081 t1_j7bjvcr wrote

My dog flips the fuck out whenever one comes through our Neighborhood

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sevenicecubes t1_j7c3hoj wrote

They use power tools and cell phones, this shit needs to be left in the past.

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CostofRepairs t1_j7bgef6 wrote

I get tired of their shit. Literally.

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PianolinSerific t1_j7bmalr wrote

Whats with these comments? All the amish and mennonites I know are good people. They work hard and live for family and community. Some bad apples which are seen in the news but those are everywhere.

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anuhu t1_j7cmfpo wrote

Good people who have a higher than average incidence of incest and sexual assault? Good people who run puppy mills, breed dogs into the ground and then let them go roam free to get hit by cars when they're done breeding them? Good people who destroy their road horses' legs and dump them at new holland for a slaughter broker the second they can't manage the miles as easily? Good people who ignore fishing and hunting regulations, and regulations about not burning toxic trash?

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j7dftb1 wrote

People just enjoy finding reasons to hate others. Makes them feel good about themselves I guess. Idk. I don’t get it.

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PianolinSerific t1_j7fqy6b wrote

Idk if any of these people know any amish or if they just read the news.

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TyeDyeAmish OP t1_j7gk93y wrote

Probably just from what they’ve heard. It’s like yes there are some Bad Amish. There’s bad English too. I don’t get the extreme generalizations on this app.

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No-Setting9690 t1_j7fuqot wrote

Brother posted a pic on Facebook. He lives just outside Lancaster. The buggy had a dominos logo on it.

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TheMensChef t1_j7aqtzu wrote

They are allowed to us public grocery stores? Isn’t that like against their religion?

And like shit do they pay taxes?

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Mr_Fraunces t1_j7b1swr wrote

Yes, No. They do pay taxes but they don't pay into Social Security, Medicare, or unemployment. They are not entitled to collect benefit from it either.

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labdogs42 t1_j7b0cmi wrote

I grew up near Lancaster county and I always heard that they don’t pay taxes because of some religious rule.

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webauteur t1_j7brc32 wrote

At least they are saving a lot of money since they don't need to buy gas.

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bignick222 t1_j7c1wnn wrote

Hey double parking Hahahah

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PantsAre4Squares t1_j7c6uro wrote

I sure get tired of running over copious deposits of horse shit all over the roads. Nevermind what those wheels do to the already weather-stressed PA asphalt.

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LOERMaster t1_j7cfy0a wrote

Every Sunday morning there’s dozens driving past my house on the way to church.

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matilda314 t1_j7co5gp wrote

Amish are the lowest life form on the planet. Abuse anything that isn’t a human male.

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hufarted-me t1_j7duprm wrote

There’s even buggy parking at AutoZone in Lancaster.

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ewcheyenneeliz t1_j7e4ty9 wrote

i grew up in lancaster county, pa. for people to find this funny or odd seems so strange to me, im so used to yelling being stuck behind 2 buggies while another one is coming in the opposite lane 🤣🤣🤣 my grocery store growing up (and where my parents still shop) is entirely amish owned and has a huge buggy parking section.

they make good food. and good milk. but they can’t fricking drive!!!!!

the best is 2AM hearing them pass by your house on the road blaring black eyed peas and various voiced shouting the entire way.

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worstatit t1_j7ayh1g wrote

Agree. Painting them all with the same brush on the basis of individual actions is plain wrong. A kind, hard working community in general.

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