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gslavik t1_j27556s wrote

In old country if you wanted milk, you'd go to market at 5AM with your own 2 liter plastic bottles and find the farmer who came to town with a few barrels of milk (it was most likely not pasteurized).

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Avaisraging439 t1_j28i61e wrote

Local milk farmers around me who sell direct also don't pasteurize which seems like a massive risk.

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choodudetoo t1_j28ohov wrote

In Pennsylvania a farmer can get a legal permit to sell raw unpasteurized milk. The permit requires extra testing for bacteria, especially listeria, which is a bacteria that is not affected much by refrigeration.

So permitted farmers are managing the risks.

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MCRNRearAdmiral t1_j29unj0 wrote

Can confirm Listeria is NOT affected by refrigeration in the least. While I don’t subscribe to the notion that a non-young child/ non-immunocompromised person should blanket-avoid raw milk, the threat in things like deli meat and hot dogs too is real.

https://www.fda.gov/food/foodborne-pathogens/listeria-listeriosis#:~:text=Foods%20Linked%20to%20U.S.%20Outbreaks,L.

Want to see how the smart folks in Food Science use viruses to actually combat the Listeria bacterium?

https://www.wired.com/2006/08/fda-oks-viruses-to-treat-food/amp

Now go pour yourselves a nice glass of raw milk!

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Avaisraging439 t1_j28onk0 wrote

To be fair, my grandfather in law drinks raw milk from a couple farms down and has never gotten sick, not certain if they do testing but that farm sells to the processing companies instead of direct to consumer.

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choodudetoo t1_j28pelw wrote

There's a fair amount of testing done on Grade A farm milk for processing. Not as much as a raw milk permit, but enough to catch most "sick cow" milk.

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