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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j2u0vic wrote

Finally. Moderate Republicans, are sick of this gqp trumpy cult bullshit as much as the voters. Kudos to these actual representatives of the voters of Pennsylvania!

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Mijbr090490 t1_j2u2yug wrote

I love how "moderate" republicans try and distance themselves from the dumpster fire that they helped cause. Birds of a shit feather, Randy.

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[deleted] t1_j2u9pby wrote

Go birds

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BeltfedOne t1_j2uls35 wrote

Birds aren't real...

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gslavik t1_j2urmsw wrote

They are, but they are really government spy drones, because social media doesn't have all our info already. :D

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Logan_Holmes t1_j2u06wb wrote

101-101-1 after the special elections 🥴

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TransFattyAcid t1_j2u7ia6 wrote

Will this be enough to keep the abortion amendment from making the ballot? My understanding is that it has to be approved by two successive congresses and I'm hoping this one won't approve it.

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Away-Living5278 t1_j2ucwis wrote

Fingers crossed he didn't have to say he'd vote for it to get the speakership. He may have agreed to put it to a vote, assuming it'll fail though.

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bitterbeerfaces t1_j2wtbj9 wrote

My understanding is that they dropped the abortion language from the amendment it is not just focusing on the voter id stuff. I think the GOP realized anything attached to anything that restricted abortion will not pass.

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Hib3rnian t1_j2uz9r0 wrote

Good. Now stop fucking around and get some shit actually done! 👍

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khag t1_j2ujf89 wrote

Hey that's my rep!!

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GraffitiTavern t1_j2uxz5e wrote

Would you be willing to contact him and ask him to let McClinton stay on as majority leader and kill the anti-reproductive rights constitutional amendment the Republicans were trying to force through? I'm going to email him too but it might be more impactful coming from someone in his district.

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Logan_Holmes t1_j2v2xqm wrote

Considering he voted against SB106 when it was passed for the first time, I doubt he’d bring it up for its second vote

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GraffitiTavern t1_j2vedcn wrote

Oh I'd agree and I mean I doubt the Dems would have voted for him unanimously if he supported the Republican amendments, but better to keep some pressure up now

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gj13us t1_j3d6ji7 wrote

He doesn’t control whether McClinton will be Majority Leader. House Democrats will either vote for her or someone else.

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GraffitiTavern t1_j3dpatr wrote

I don't doubt House Democrats will vote for her, but with the chamber being 101-101, with him being the tiebreaking vote(and speaker), he decides who will be in the majority. Dems have indicated he will support their majority even if he doesn't caucus with them, but he hasn't really said anything publicly on the matter himself.

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zipcad t1_j2wkmbd wrote

Well he just resigned from the Democratic Party.

Fucking dems lol

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BeerExchange t1_j2twlp2 wrote

*independent

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datches89 t1_j2wi2xo wrote

He started out as a Democrat and is now an Independent. According to this article, he leans right on "cutting business payroll tax and eliminating school property taxes" while other, more headline-y politics- abortion rights, minimum wage- are more left.

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BeerExchange t1_j2wi9f4 wrote

Yes, but he totally boned the PA Dems by eliminating their slimmest of slim majority. So much for PA moving forward. One step forward, two steps back.

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datches89 t1_j2wjar1 wrote

Just read the AP Article

> Democrats said Rozzi will remain a Democrat and not switch his registration to independent. But Republicans insisted otherwise Tuesday night, saying that Rozzi will become an independent.

What a mess

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BeerExchange t1_j2wk4ym wrote

I recall reading yesterday that he will not caucus with the democrats or republicans, and will have staff members from both parties. It's bonkers.

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cowboyjosh2010 t1_j2y5ly5 wrote

I'm curious what he would do to make up for eliminating school property taxes. When I hear the phrase "school property taxes", what I envision is the portion of real estate property taxes that gets used as revenue for local public school districts to use. I have a general but not well refined critique of this practice, because I think it sucks that the funding of a child's school (and therefore likely the quality of the education available to that child) is so dependent on the perceived property values where that child had the good (or bad) luck of being born. But obviously schools need this portion of their revenue. I think I support (but am not 100% ironclad in this) pooling tax revenue statewide and distributing it to public schools more evenly.

So I think that's where I go next on this subject for Rozzi's position: is that what he would do in lieu of school property taxes? It's hardly like he can eliminate that tax and replace the revenue source with nothing, right? So what's the alternative in his mind?

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selectinput t1_j2yu1b5 wrote

There are also places in PA that have a separate school district tax that is not property tax, which you owe as a resident rather than a property owner. I’m not sure how common that is. I’d be curious if that’s something they would push to expand in lieu of a property tax.

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tehmlem t1_j2vh1qm wrote

Ugh, the enlightened centrist schtick made speaker. Sure, one side wants to install an autocrat and purge minorities but it's important to come together and make sure they feel included with a compromise. They may deny the very legitimacy of the elections that got them here but let's pretend they're not an active threat to democracy.

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Illustrious_Air_1438 t1_j2vhdlh wrote

Republicans have more seats for the time being (until vacancies are filled), so Democrats couldn't have elected a speaker without some Republican support.

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tehmlem t1_j2vhkoh wrote

Doesn't mean it's not equal parts gross and dangerous. Pragmatism has downsides

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Illustrious_Air_1438 t1_j2vhzxd wrote

A speaker has to be elected though. Democrats do not have a numerical majority for the time being, so they couldn't have done any better. The options were a consensus candidate (in this case Rozzi), or a Republican.

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tehmlem t1_j2vi3oe wrote

I am aware. Doesn't mean I have to like the outcome

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marty_eraser t1_j39mp3u wrote

>Sure, one side wants to install an autocrat and purge minorities

Which side?

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FiveNations54 t1_j2vuu8d wrote

People like you sure do bitch about the same shit, but you never do anything.

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Avaisraging439 t1_j2werc0 wrote

This is nice and all but I'm seeing too many Dems vote for fracking while water supply quality drops off the face of the earth for the state.

I'm not really sure much will change for the better in my opinion.

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toadfan64 t1_j2zddxd wrote

Hopefully this means we can finally move forward with raising the minimum wage here. Aren’t we one of the last holdouts?

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1stBigHank t1_j34uvll wrote

Great move. With the temp lost seats they needed a person who could pull from both sides to keep the speakership. This should keep that disgusting midnight amendment off the floor.

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sensistarfish t1_j2uf282 wrote

The dems are hoping he walks back his “independent” schtick.

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RipTide275 t1_j2tyr23 wrote

Way to drop the ball GOP

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BeltfedOne t1_j2u0gfr wrote

The GQP is tearing itself to pieces in PA and Washington, DC and I simply point and laugh. There is no plan for governance. It is all Culture War, own the libs, and oppose EVEYTHING. Except tax cuts for the rich and covering up all of DJT's mess. Also- before you even try- I am NOT a liberal. Thank you in advance.

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RipTide275 t1_j2u2zy2 wrote

Dems are definitely more organized, too bad their policies are so off base. Both parties suck.

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fucklawyers t1_j2u48ks wrote

Lol what exactly are GQP policies? Death penalty for using the wrong bathroom or telling kids about slavery?

Nah that’s probably for refugees haha whoops

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RipTide275 t1_j2u5hgd wrote

Conservative, smaller government, secure borders. GOP has strayed

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fucklawyers t1_j2u5t66 wrote

That may have been right sixty years ago, I mean right now. What are they?

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tyrael459 t1_j2wo7sf wrote

Maybe you can explain to me: How is stuff like limiting women’s healthcare and telling teachers what to teach and companies what they’re allowed to say deemed “smaller government”?

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RipTide275 t1_j2wourk wrote

Federal govt shouldn’t be involved in that stuff. Should be up to state and local govts. That’s how it’s smaller govt, smaller federal govt.

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Elliott2 t1_j2x5f8g wrote

“Federal isn’t doing what I want, so smaller state govt will potentially if I get my buddies in”

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tyrael459 t1_j2xjas4 wrote

Interesting. So why are you ok with state and local governments inserting themselves into people’s lives in the ways I mentioned?

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BeltfedOne t1_j2u4t0a wrote

Oh, so now you are doing the "both sides" thing? If both parties suck, why do you roll full on MAGA most of the time and are an admitted Q supporter/expert? Your account history speaks for itself. You are acting like another PA Whitetail doe in the middle of the road at night.

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RipTide275 t1_j2u587a wrote

I’m conservative and I wish the GOP would get their shit together. Why is that so hard for you to understand ?

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BeltfedOne t1_j2u6phv wrote

I wish that the GOP would figure out how to actually fucking govern and not just break shit. It involves compromise, discourse, and negotiation. It involves talking with people that you don't agree with and trying to do good things to benefit the FUCKING country and not some wannabe dictator. Culture war issues are fucking nonsense and help nothing tangible/useful.

Nobody likes to compromise, but it HAS to be done unless you want one person, breaking their oath of office, appointing themselves head-motherfucker-in-charge-emperor, and issuing commands at a whim. I don't want that- ever. Do you want that?

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RipTide275 t1_j2u8k29 wrote

Obviously not, but I wouldn’t give the left a free pass about being obstructionists, compromise goes both ways

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BeltfedOne t1_j2u9zdr wrote

You are simply deflecting and doing the both sides whuddabout dance. I said nothing about "free passes" for anybody.

Country before party, uphold sworn oaths to the Constitution, and get some more shit that matters for all of this country actually done. It ain't easy, but it is definitely possible. But it does take both sides....

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RipTide275 t1_j2ub6o3 wrote

Dude, go find a friend to talk to about your whining bullshit. Then you go ahead and agree with me after all. 😂

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BeltfedOne t1_j2uckdk wrote

Yup. That was the run and hide insult reply that I was waiting for from you. You never fail to fail.

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RipTide275 t1_j2ufbjq wrote

You got me with your be as annoying as possible strategy. Good job. 🤡

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BeltfedOne t1_j2uh5yf wrote

Country before Party. Oaths sworn are to be fulfilled. I know that you find pointed questions and facts uncomfortable. Be well and do good. Happy new year.

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AeniasGaming t1_j2uc8be wrote

Dude, you’ve been whining this whole time. Take your own advice.

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jralll234 t1_j2u4i65 wrote

It’s so crazy that they want people to make more money and have healthcare coverage! What next? Maternity leave? So off base!

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RipTide275 t1_j2u5d33 wrote

Ask them to tax you less

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jralll234 t1_j2udmic wrote

As opposed to your buddies that want to just tax the rich less. But then also don’t cut spending so the deficit soars. While also screaming about fiscal responsibility.

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RipTide275 t1_j2uf5kq wrote

Oh, you’re a liberal that’s suddenly worried about the deficit. Lol. Nice 1.7T spending bill

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jralll234 t1_j2uh7qy wrote

I’m a progressive that’s calling conservatives on their bullshit. Have fun being massive hypocrites.

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