Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwnpb1l wrote
I like the sentiment of blocking him but this will make things worse overall. As long as there aren't 14 other weak republican candidates in a primary field, Trump isn't going to win but he sure as shit will make the primary winner look weak and bad to a lot of voters.
He's also crazy enough to try a 3rd party bid when he loses the nomination.
420foreverandalways t1_iwnu0zj wrote
>As long as there aren't 14 other weak republican candidates in a primary field, Trump isn't going to win but he sure as shit will make the primary winner look weak and bad to a lot of voters.
I see you were in a coma in 2016
Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwny8rh wrote
I assure you I was awake for the thing I very specifically referenced.
Trump has zero chance of holding office again. It’d take an extraordinary set of circumstances for him to get past a primary. Even if he did, it’d be a worse outcome than 2020. All of the shit that made him lose plus his behavior in his last two months.
I say let him run just because he’s a giant stink bomb who can only damage his own party.
xanderg102301 t1_iwo3mm5 wrote
I really think his cult voter base is strong enough to win him the primary
Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwo48ge wrote
Maybe? That’s handing the presidency and congress to democrats
xanderg102301 t1_iwo5hpt wrote
Yeah, that's an optimistic way too look at it
Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwo6feq wrote
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want to see him, hear him, or have to remember he exists.
It’s annoying but he’s such a toxic asset that I think the only reason to call him a threat to win is shellshock from before.
Blubomberikam t1_iwrait9 wrote
not anymore. Go to r/conservative. Theyre abandoning him in droves. The best case scenario is for him to win/run/lose or lose primary, but run as an independant and take Desantis out of the running with a split ticket.
SuccessfulBench4879 t1_iwrcpo0 wrote
>lt voter base is strong enough to win him the primary
Remember your on Reddit which naturally leans left. Head over to truth social to see what his followers have to say if your actually interested in it. /r/conservative is not trump's base. You'll need to go on gab, truth social, and the chans to see he is still very popular.
Blubomberikam t1_iwrdcw7 wrote
Truth has like 15 total users. Even if every single one of them said something its not indicative of anything at all.
edit: Fox cut away from trumps announcement to show something biden was saying. It is not the same thing as 2016.
mkmck t1_iwvtul8 wrote
He has lost Rupert Murdoch. Without the Fox media machine behind him, he has no chance. The dweebs that spend all day watching that channel will go whatever direction they are told by those idiots.
majoroutage t1_iwoszvh wrote
You're really that sure he won't pull off a Hillary?
monkysandtools t1_iwqo90u wrote
>Trump has zero chance of holding office again
I want to agree with you. Sadly we only have to look at the Weimar Republic and the rise of a particular fascist leader.
[In the 1960's, Ron Jones, a High School Social Studies teacher (after being asked a question as how the Germans could claim ignorance), started an experiment, which got out of hand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment) )
Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwqy7m1 wrote
I don't think fascism is dead or no longer a threat at all. Far from that.
But Trump himself? I think there is a better chance that God, who I do not believe in, appears on earth and annoints him the King of humanity than there is that fucking loser gets elected again.
Flashbulb_RI t1_iwo0lvs wrote
The R primaries are winner take all. With lots of other R primary candidates, Trump could get 30%+- in each primary and win the nomination.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwo2p53 wrote
Lots of candidates is an extreme set of circumstances. I may not like the GOP but I don’t think their leadership or the power brokers in the party are stupid enough not to learn from their own mistakes.
And him getting the nomination would be annoying because it extends the time we all have to see him and hear from him but he would be a gift opponent. Dude got blown out two years ago and then still managed to tank his approval rating by 15 additional points by having the worst lame duck period since James Buchanan.
SuccessfulBench4879 t1_iwux2dq wrote
Are you all that out of touch? Trump is still very relevant. Just not in an echo chamber like reddit or msm. He is still extremely popular and is going to win the primaries. And probably the presidency after another 2 years of this current train wreck. But everyone here on reddit can just live in fantasy land the way you think conservatives do on truth social, gab, and other conservative leaning platforms.
Proof-Variation7005 t1_iwv0ycq wrote
If Trump had gotten blown out in 2020, graciously and promptly conceded, and spent the last 2 months focused on stimulus and vaccine rollout stuff, he probably would be a threat now.
Instead, he got blown out, denied it, and acted like a child with the whole thing culminating in January 6th. He left office with the highest disapproval rating over any president since Nixon resigned in disgrace. That MAGA base is always going to be there it's still a fringe minority of the population.
mkmck t1_iwvvmwv wrote
Without the Fox media machine, Trump is done...and Murdoch has clearly bailed on Trump.
brick1972 t1_iwq7525 wrote
I agree with you overall, but I think you are ignoring that Trump loves to set himself on fire when someone pokes him with a stick. The question becomes whether this particular poking creates the same 2016 synergy by super energizing his base and getting enough moderates to come over as well.
It's like chaos theory, where is Dr. Ian Malcolm these days.
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