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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcxpnwj wrote

Celebrity led promotions of TV shows are what mentally ill people need, not funding for care 👍

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artaru t1_jcy5c0b wrote

It wasn't too long ago that mental illness were dismissed as only a condition that weak-minded people have, not a real serious condition that deserves treatment and research. Public awareness is an important part of consciousness raising.

We should laud when pieces of media actually do an ok job in helping make invisible problems salient, which is what Ted Lasso has done (to whatever extents is up to your judgment).

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Certain_Yam_110 t1_jd0vybm wrote

Who's NOT aware mental illness is not serious?

Less awareness, more action, more funding.

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usernameBS t1_jd1plqp wrote

May want to read about shell shocked soldiers during WW1

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcy66iv wrote

Pure cope, this is an ad for a TV show conducted by our political leaders

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mero8181 t1_jcy7cl3 wrote

Your point? There is not much he can do honestly

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcy8h8o wrote

He's the president of the USA. Are you serious?

Pretty negative and cynical thing to express around here

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shotputlover t1_jcyaqhy wrote

This is the bully pulpit the president has. Tell me you don’t know what powers the president has without telling me. Smh. Go back to civics class and learn who legislates.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyo4lq wrote

Didn't we elect this guy in part because of his awesome relationships in the senate?

I bet Joe Manchin would have been much more agreeable if the Biden DoJ were on top of his daughter for that little Epipen thing.

Stop making excuses, he's the prez, "the buck stops here"

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mero8181 t1_jcycvl4 wrote

Yeah, none of which is make new laws. He can only operate under current laws. Hence student loan forgiveness is in the courts.

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mero8181 t1_jcylx10 wrote

Yeah, none of which is make new laws. He can only operate under current laws. Hence student loan forgiveness is in the courts.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyos7t wrote

"None of which is make new laws"

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mero8181 t1_jcyylcx wrote

You realize the things you link prove my point right? The build back better, was an agenda that had to go through congress. Executive orders are not new laws, they are operating within the current laws. Hence why some orders get haltes by judges.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyzo88 wrote

I don't think they do.

It was a failed agenda that was publically destroyed by his own party. Everyone understood in 2020 before Biden took office that all roads led through Joe Manchin. That Biden The Senate Whisperer or whatever didn't sit down with him and Sinema week one and find out what they wanted to play ball is political malpractice. He totally failed to use any leverage, which he undoubtedly had

Executive orders seem a lot like laws when you are subject to them, I think you will find

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mero8181 t1_jd30xhx wrote

Okay, it was a fail agenda? Your point? Why did it fail? Because of congress.......Thus president had to power to pass it. He could only convince people to vote for it, but can't force them

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Executive orders are not laws, if they feel like it then blames congress.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jd31pbi wrote

It failed because the guy who came up with it did a shit job getting anything passed, is my point. He didn't use his power at all, he punted.

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mero8181 t1_jd326j4 wrote

He had no power, he can't tell them what to do. They can change the agenda, but the sole power to pass it was in congress. He can only cheerlead.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jd32juu wrote

Excuse making

Like I said, if he was serious about "cheerleading" Manchin on board, he could "cheerleaded" his DoJ to start investigating his kid for the Epipen thing as leverage on Manchin

President of USA had no power, are you listening to yourself? Why then was it so important to vote blue no matter who/against Trump?

Funny, when Trump is running, then the presidency is of VITAL IMPORTANTANCE but when Biden couldn't get jack shit passed through a dem congress, then he has NO POWER

Get real man

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mero8181 t1_jd33759 wrote

Because the President can veto or sign laws. You still need him. However, Congress needs to do their job first. With Congress split it becomes less important that he was voted in.

I never said he has no power, but he can't make laws.

And congrats you finalize realize congress is made up on individuals, not parties. Doesn't matter if a person is a Dem or Republican. They are individuals who can vote how they want.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jd3dm1c wrote

"He had no power" - you, above, verbatim

They can vote how they want but the pres has a ton of power to influence their votes

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Coyote_Will t1_jcyxrkh wrote

Are you American? You should know that the president can’t do anything if the laws don’t make it through our messed up congress and senate

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyy6pu wrote

I am, which is exactly how I know that what you just said is a totally false, the presidency has a ton of power, including exec actions, hello mcfly

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spacewalk__ t1_jcyhte8 wrote

the president actually has no power at all so it's fine to do nothing!

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mcnello t1_jcxsnnw wrote

It may not actually be an effective substitute for real medical care/treatment but it will generate publicity and may translate into more votes for team blue, so it must be a win for overall society, right?

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tinaxbelcher t1_jcyirj6 wrote

Studies have been done before on racists who watched a show with a main character as a person of color. And the results were there. After watching the show, the subjects were more accepting of people of color because they found a way to identify with the character. They found that it's a first step in sympathizing with an "outgroup". This is a great example of the benefits of parasocial relationships. With the way media is ingrained in our society, this is a step in the right direction in terms of normalizing mental health issues.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcy59wh wrote

I fear that is how the thinking goes - window dressing like this somehow manifests robust public policy (decades later?)

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mero8181 t1_jcy78i0 wrote

Yes, exactly. Or until people start to actually vote for and care about the bodies of government that can actually make changes. The house and Senate are the 2 most powerful bodies, yet people think the president can wave a wand and boom we have universal healthcare.

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mero8181 t1_jcxwp5r wrote

Yes, Possibley. There are many people who don't think its weak or what ever to get mental healthcare. That they don't see it as the same thing as physical care.

Also, what the heck do you think the president can do? Want more funding? Vote for Senators and Representatives that align. The president can't do much.

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King_Swift21 t1_jcy58wn wrote

Fax, people need to realize Presidents can't always make unilateral decisions, vote for your local and state representatives that align with your views and get more things do.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcy55ge wrote

Learned helplessness?

President has tons of power, are you listening to yourself? Bully pulpit? Whats that

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mero8181 t1_jcy70cl wrote

They do, but not to make healthcare free or change any laws. The house and Senate are the 2 most powerful bodies in government.

The president power really comes into play after laws are passed.

He cant create programs, make laws. He can only operate within the laws.

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Groundbreaking_War52 t1_jcy5gdy wrote

It is entirely possible that Biden will use this as an opportunity to announce additional resources being allocated for mental health services...

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcy6byh wrote

Get back to me if that happens. Seriously.

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Groundbreaking_War52 t1_jcy7g4c wrote

From the original story:

>Biden has previously called on lawmakers in both parties to expand resources to fight the “mental health crisis” in the nation as part of his “ unity agenda.” His administration has surged funding to bolster the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline and expand school-based mental health professionals.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcy8bvs wrote

Why wait until his party has lost control of Congress? This show has been on for years.

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vasya349 t1_jcydbc9 wrote

Notably Biden got like two trillion dollars in spending new spending authorized during that two year period. You’re being obnoxiously contrarian for no reason.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyjanl wrote

Dodged the question, why wait?

How much toward health care, social services, mental health?

Cite a source!

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vasya349 t1_jcykwy2 wrote

Do it yourself lol

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcynems wrote

Where I am from, those making claims bear the burden of proof, see

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vasya349 t1_jcynkzb wrote

Where I’m from, we don’t entertain people not acting in good faith.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyntyx wrote

Sounds like ad hominem because you can't back up your claim

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vasya349 t1_jcynzp0 wrote

You don’t know what ad hominem means.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyozm4 wrote

Against the person, you intimated I am not acting in good faith, whatever that means in this context, that's against me, not my argument QED

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vasya349 t1_jcysmjn wrote

This has to be satire…

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyy0xt wrote

No, ad hominem is speech that addresses the identity of the speaker (like if their faith is good or bad, again, whatever that could possibly mean here) and in that sense could even be complimentary

"A person as beautiful as you should come up with a better argument than that" for example

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Groundbreaking_War52 t1_jcybgsj wrote

The additional funding has been a priority for the life of his administration. They are probably using the premiere of the final season as an opportunity to maximize attention on the issue.

Also, this sub is called Uplifting News - you lost?

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyjl53 wrote

Might as well be called comforting and delusional spin when it comes to this story

Maximize attention = an ad for a TV show

How about maziming some concrete benefits for the unwell? Off the table huh

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Dorocche t1_jcyl4vc wrote

His party hasn't had control of Congress since 2009 because of the filibuster. Not for big important things like fixing the healthcare system, anyway.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcynnam wrote

No, the rules which allow the procedural fillibuster are set by a simple majority, which the dems had in both houses. QED, they could have passed anything they wanted.

Dems love to tie themselves up in knots as some kind of auto-kinbaku and proclaim they are helpless, just helpless! The parliamentarian said we can't! etc

This is an ad for a TV show, sucker

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Ikarus124 t1_jcydttv wrote

The Biden administration has approved hundreds of millions of dollars to expand access to mental healthcare, but by all means, please make a sassy comment based on nothing. Public displays of awareness on a large scale like this are a vital component of getting people help.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyj7zu wrote

Cite a source , speaking of being based on nothing

And then I will ask if one can say the same about his predecessor 😎

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Ikarus124 t1_jcythtw wrote

“Speaking of being based on nothing”, that is not an appropriate response since it was based on fact, nice try though. Google it, as you should have done originally.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jcyxro0 wrote

"You should google support for my argument"

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Ikarus124 t1_jczxrqg wrote

Its not an argument, it’s a fact. The sky is blue, shall I list my sources? It’s not my job to educate you. You posted an ill informed comment. Spend less time on Reddit and more time researching the topics you feel compelled to comment on.

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PigeonsArePopular t1_jd2g9r0 wrote

It's a fact in support of an argument and if you are too cool/lazy to find it, that's on you

Other dude came through. Sorry you are so tired

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Loggerdon t1_jcyirc4 wrote

Didn't the star of Ted Lasso have his wife served divorce papers while she was on stage at the Sundance Film Festival last year?

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MugillacuttyHOF37 t1_jcyojlg wrote

Yes, she was apparently cheating on him with two different men while he was filming this show in England. That's the rumor that was floating around, but only she and the Styles dude know the truth.

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Loggerdon t1_jcyoxm8 wrote

Just doesn't make me think "Let's get THIS guy to promote "mental health".

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MugillacuttyHOF37 t1_jcyppl5 wrote

Does he suffer from mental health issues in real life? I haven't seen the show to know wether or not its a focal point or episode covering mental health.

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