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INeedCheesee t1_jd6d2vj wrote
Most people just use Baidu in China
Exotic-Today3865 t1_jd71cmn wrote
Baidu kinda has a bad image in China and a lot of the younger tech savvy people actually prefer Bing or the Quark Search by Alibaba Group.
scooterbuhddy t1_jd85ska wrote
That’s interesting! Why does baidu have a bad image in China?
Exotic-Today3865 t1_jdby2k8 wrote
They had search results link to a private hospital group (since it was paid ads). However the group is shady to say the least and would also charge absurd amounts of money and so on. China has huge trust issues towards both what the government and private enterprise says. Let’s just say foreign companies are trusted more than a lot of the local companies, no matter how hard the government and local conglomerates try.
soldforaspaceship t1_jd6fp75 wrote
Depends what they are searching for. Even local friends preferred Bing for international searches. I only used Baidu for searches in Mandarin on local stuff. Obviously can't speak for the country!
DaBIGmeow888 t1_jd7oob5 wrote
Bing is for foreigners searching international stuff. Most locals use Baidu.
soldforaspaceship t1_jd7wg1v wrote
Absolutely. But some locals use Bing for international searches. That was my experience at least.
Shadecraze t1_jd9e47a wrote
here are some stats i could find for anyone else curious about the numbers
soldforaspaceship t1_jd9gv87 wrote
That's about what I expected but thanks! 14% of market share in China would push their numbers enormously!
biebergotswag t1_jd73r3p wrote
baidu is famous for being absolutely useless, you can search for dingtalk on baidu, and the first link may be a virus.
Baidu's absolute uselessness is what allowed the APP market and wechat miniapps to bloom.
DaBIGmeow888 t1_jd7p1kr wrote
China search engine marketshare
- Baidu: 65%
- Bing: 11%
https://www.statista.com/statistics/253340/market-share-of-search-engines-in-china-pageviews/
biebergotswag t1_jd7z1z0 wrote
When you include the truly big alternatives such as alibaba(including amap), wechat search, toutiao, meituan, dianping ect baidu is not big at all.
Search engines are not that big in china. Baidu don't nearly have the monoply as google has in the west
Enfiznar t1_jd9651g wrote
65% is big. Not google big, but big, more so in china.
biebergotswag t1_jda8eo2 wrote
It is a much smaller market, because the users of browsers and search engines are much fewer.
DaBIGmeow888 t1_jd7p0sl wrote
China search engine marketshare
Nightie_Whities t1_jd6eah4 wrote
You are correct in that more users in China use Bing than the US, but don’t forget that Siri searches default to Bing as well.
420everytime t1_jd6zw7l wrote
In America, a lot of older people who haven’t changed their default search engine use bing.
For many who do drop shipping, bing is their main source of profitable ads
Sarcosmonaut t1_jd7mnet wrote
I use Bing because Microsoft pays me to use Bing lol
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Thelango99 t1_jd7mqjj wrote
I switched from Google to Bing.
CanWeTalkHere t1_jd8583j wrote
Bing doesn't monetize for shit in China. So, no.
Source: I helped build Bing (first Windows Live Search) in China (and could tell you all sorts of stories of government interference).
itskdog t1_jd8a8hw wrote
Wasn't it originally MSN before it was Windows Live Search? AFAIK, the rename was just to promote their social network.
CanWeTalkHere t1_jd8gyfq wrote
In the U.S. it was. In China, we started with Windows Live search (there may have been an MSN Search earlier, in China, that was utilizing some 3rd party search of some sort. I don't recall exactly.).
crime_mastergogo007 t1_jd7b4sh wrote
Why bing is allowed tho?
moldyolive t1_jd7q88s wrote
because they are willing to censor for the ccp
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biebergotswag t1_jd73t57 wrote
Also, advertising on bing actually have very good results.
Hefty_bag_dumps t1_jd8ojyb wrote
Bing Chilling!
waterfall5555 t1_jd8pjfi wrote
It's not like nobody in the western world uses Bing.
I personally switched to bing (and Microsoft Edge) half a year ago and i'm finding myself liking it a lot
olivierbush t1_jd78a12 wrote
Thanks for sharing. I agree with you regarding Bing. It seems that the biggest part of Bing's traffic comes from China. Also, recommend you to see this article where you can find useful information.
Aggressive_Ris t1_jdgmnaf wrote
Im in the US an use Bing because of Microsoft Rewards. I just let my point build up and every 2-3 years redeem like $200 in Amazon gift codes.
If you set your desktop and mobile search engines to it then it's actually a nice little way to basically make free money (well, 'money' in gift cards they have or other stuff on the Microsoft store or their products...).
I highly reccommend it if you enjoy free stuff. The search engine itself is good too, I don't miss Google or any of its functionalities at all, it's basically the same in a different UI.
Timid_Robot t1_jd72241 wrote
If everyone in china used bing, the market share would be way bigger
soldforaspaceship t1_jd799ip wrote
Obviously. Not everyone does. But when Google isn't an option clearly people are going to use other search engines.
Timid_Robot t1_jd7ge55 wrote
Yeah, but not Bing...
soldforaspaceship t1_jd7oi9e wrote
Don't know what to tell you. Can only speak from my experience.
Timid_Robot t1_jdbjxsv wrote
Yeah exactly, you are one person. There is data about this that is easily accessible
soldforaspaceship t1_jdbxayi wrote
Data says Bing has over 14% of market share as another commentor shared so it turns out my experience was pretty accurate but thanks for your feedback!
Timid_Robot t1_jdc6f18 wrote
No, you're comment was that most of Bings revenue comes from China. That's not what the data says, that's not even what your experience says. Sure, some people (14%) use bing in china. That does not mean most of their revenue comes from China. Data says it's about 30%, more ore less equal to the revenue from the us. You're experience means jack shit...
soldforaspaceship t1_jdct7bi wrote
I said I suspect most of Bing's revenue comes from China. Given that they have 14% market share in China and 6% in the US, that wasn't a bad suspusion. Every analysis shows China uses Bing more than the US does. I'm not sure where you're looking but since the person posted the 14% thing I've not found anything to support your points.
I'm also not sure why this is your hill to die on. I'm speaking about my experience in China. If your experience there was difference fair enough.
Treczoks t1_jd7dep0 wrote
My condolences, then.
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Sonytix t1_jd54bks wrote
Maybe i’m dumb (this is a big probability) but i don’t understand; Where is google ? And Bing ? And the blue dot is « other » ?
Btw nice try 👍
rcoff98 t1_jd5738u wrote
You’re not dumb, the labeling and the use of grey for Google’s area can be confusing at first. Google is the entire area below ~90%, Bing is the blue bar, and “other” is everything above blue.
Warmstar219 t1_jd6196o wrote
This data is, in fact, not beautiful
DetroitLionsSBChamps t1_jd7d43u wrote
This sub should be renamed shitty graphs at this point. Almost never is the data well presented, let alone beautiful
TheThiefMaster t1_jd6wsqv wrote
Yeah it's bloody confusing that they put the label for Bing on top of Google's section, and then covered up most of Google's section with a second graph.
geneusutwerk t1_jd7p05e wrote
Another case where the visualization is crap but the underlying data is interesting so it gets voted up
Mistlefoe t1_jd89wok wrote
I was wondering why Google is at 30% and Bing at 80% 🤣🤣
ultrachad420 t1_jd5e6ma wrote
Yea, the graph is shit
DoeCommaJohn t1_jd57squ wrote
As others have pointed out, Google takes up most of the back graph. I do agree that grey probably wasn’t the best color for this, and it is confusing to compare search engines in the background and social media in the foreground
al1ceinw0nderland t1_jd5rzia wrote
Yeah the social media part had me sooo confused
keepcrazy t1_jd6fz3o wrote
And what’s the pink stuff??
dessertandcheese t1_jd84wzy wrote
You're not dumb, the visualization is so confusing
kangarooham t1_jd897yz wrote
Yea, this is why legends exist...
user_is_name t1_jd55mqa wrote
I can confirm and I agree with you, you are dumb. Google is literally 90% of the image.
Sonytix t1_jd56g3e wrote
Oh ! Thank you… With your comment, this make sense. I don’t realise bing is just the big blue line… Or i’m definitively lost
user_is_name t1_jd56uvs wrote
Damn, your reply was so humble , it makes me feel bad for calling you dumb. That's not how internet works, you are meant to say something mean in return which makes me slightly angry through the night.
Sonytix t1_jd5ar4g wrote
Héhé, don’t feel bad, just have a good night bro !
AlbanySteamedHams t1_jd5vmub wrote
As an outside observer, thank you for the good nature in your replies. I aspire to be more like this.
LEAKKsdad t1_jd94n5i wrote
pretty sure the internet is what you intend to use it for. You like to name call and jump on people and got hit back with kindness. Perfect karma.
LEAKKsdad t1_jd5ryft wrote
Looking like a chart from W95 🎨
RiverVanInc t1_jd9atq0 wrote
not even close to beautiful imo. albeit nostalgic, I guess?
LEAKKsdad t1_jd9fnjy wrote
You’re beautiful
RiverVanInc t1_jd9nbwf wrote
d’awwww 🤗
d0rsett t1_jdaes08 wrote
Now kith
timpdx t1_jd5lnji wrote
A forgotten business? They are pouring a huge effort into it, with ChatGPT and turning it into a leader in the AI space. Hardly forgotten.
Goldenbird666 t1_jd5zezk wrote
Bing is doing remarkably well considering the competition. As for TikTok, I honestly expected better figures given the hype, number of users (about 1.5B) and how sensational it has been for sometime. I’m sure Bytedance is not profitable. They need to make a whole lot more to be able to pay creators well, buy and pay for music royalties etc. and still have money left for operations and shareholders.
biebergotswag t1_jd73x69 wrote
Bing is actually doing really well, if you do advertising, you would see that advertising on bing brings a lot of results. Google on the other hand is over saturated.
jtsg_ OP t1_jd50a95 wrote
When we think of internet search, we think of Google. And for a good reason.
Acc. to StatCounter, almost 93% of all search queries across platforms (e.g. desktop, mobile, console) is through Google.
As seen in the chart above, Microsoft Bing’s market share is a measly 3% and hasn’t really moved much in the last 10 years.
However, Search Advertising is a very lucrative business. A small market share point can mean a lot in revenue.
In spite of being a “forgotten” name in Search, Bing still generated est. $11.7 billion of revenue in 2022.
This is larger than entire social media companies like Twitter and Snapchat and very similar to the fast growing TikTok. Remember - these social media companies have hundreds of millions of engaged users who log in every day.
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Tools: Google slides and Vizzlo
Source: Statcounter, company reports, businessofapps
benetelrae t1_jd7nfja wrote
Spend less time on the comments and perhaps make an understandable chart with your newly found free time.
gom99 t1_jd7zpql wrote
I think it was Sathya that said, Google makes more money off searches on Windows, than MS makes on those windows machines. When they were promoting their new chatgpt bing integration, they were talking about how even a few percentage points would be billions of dollars.
StrugglingLifeform t1_jd8d1pc wrote
Your graph is super confusing, this is not beautiful data.
denM_chickN t1_jd69hqc wrote
The x axis is basically useless here since the changes are nominal. Consider another relationship to tell your story.
Graphitetshirt t1_jd594f0 wrote
About to be a lot more now that they bought ChatGPT
Avicennaete t1_jd67vtu wrote
Not sure if I have to feel embarrassed but I switched to Bing a few days ago to see how it's integrating ChatGPT.
Parcevals t1_jd6ao7h wrote
Bing’s Chat is good. Sometimes really good. Sometimes useless. But it’s without a doubt something I find myself using more and more, and less Google
gom99 t1_jd80c0a wrote
I use it for things like asking when such and such is coming up. ie: When is X movie release date, when is this next fight, concert, etc.
While it's slow to wait for a response sometimes depending on the question and waiting for the typing, I'll usually just come back to it. The ability to refine that answer is the cherry on top.
It's not as good as chatgpt or copilot for technical questions, where it shines is when you're looking for an answer for current events since it's internet aware and search based. It's like having a secretary compile information from search results for you. It's useful in its own niche.
Cindexxx t1_jd6iz78 wrote
Yeah but it won't let me search for anything about porn, drugs, or anything over like PG13
Bayoris t1_jd71zr5 wrote
You can use the normal Bing search function for that, they are a leader in the x-rated space
Exotic-Today3865 t1_jd71j0s wrote
I am using it a lot now. Even switched my browser to edge dev to have the chat integrated in the browser itself. It’s honestly very useful for a lot of the tasks I am doing and more than just a search engine. I can see the share change significantly by the end of the year if this keeps going
Aggressive_Ris t1_jdgmwaf wrote
Sign up for Microsoft Rewards and you'll feel smart... it's free money for using a search engine. I get about $200 in Amazon gift codes through it every 2-3 years after letting my points build up. Its a search engine that literally pays you to use it with no gimmicks or strings attached.
ryoma-gerald t1_jd60lwe wrote
Question after seeing the graph: How much is Google raking in?
davidb1976 t1_jd661xg wrote
Seems like Google grosses $156 Billion
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Ostracus t1_jd8crou wrote
What does chatGPT have to say about that?
mvw2 t1_jd6nhz7 wrote
Considering how bananas Google is with sponsored spots and prioritizing retailer sites above everything else, Bing is stumbling into a gold mine in the coming years. At the moment, Google is becoming borderline unusable for random searches. The pay to win business model is showing through, and it's turning the tool into garbage. Bing is going to start gaining a whole lot of market share soon.
hey_listen_hey_listn t1_jd87z2o wrote
Especially with ChatGPT it has become very good.
orsikbattlehammer t1_jd83tz3 wrote
This graphic is abominable
HinduHamma t1_jd7ibxa wrote
This graph is not beautiful. Try again.
BiBoFieTo t1_jd57wop wrote
I mean Bing is good at one thing...
EcchiOli t1_jd5ghja wrote
Showing what google decides we shouldn't see?
Outrageous-Duck9695 t1_jd5jey2 wrote
I.e. porn
aminbae t1_jd85rwr wrote
nope, google i think reversed their decision a while back,
ultrachad420 t1_jd5eb7z wrote
Bing is the next Google, wait a few months and see
Richieva64 t1_jd6k19b wrote
Bing is going to start being a real threat with it's ChatGPT integration if Google doesn't release something similar this year
camelzigzag t1_jd84ms6 wrote
Why is a search engine being compared to small social media companies?
frankjohnsen t1_jd8yk28 wrote
Because both make money through advertisements
That_One_Guy2945 t1_jd9r53g wrote
This graph is ugly and hard to understand. Truly terrible work. What is this sub even for?
Inconmon t1_jd6yw4f wrote
A joke in the industry is that the best job is being in sales for Bing. You rock up to the advertisers or agency office and go "You got x millions to spend on Search and can't put it all efficiently into Google and you can't spend it anywhere else. Thanks for the money, see you next year."
blizzWorldwide t1_jd76inp wrote
This is far from beautiful
Beepboopbob1 t1_jd7wtti wrote
The data might be beautiful but this format is hideous.
aminbae t1_jd85mea wrote
if bing hadnt banned or changed their porn search,they would have doubled their revenue by now
RammyBoRammy t1_jd8p8o4 wrote
I use it for the reward points. After a year of searching or so, I usually have enough points to get a $50 XBOX gift card for my kids to use. If I can't find something using Bing, I'll switch to Google but I can usually find what I need using Bing.
fanmanutd11 t1_jd8ymhh wrote
This data is not displayed beautifully at all
Big_Bannana123 t1_jd9fsqv wrote
This chart is so fucking ugly
no1name t1_jd567eo wrote
and .... that chart is blown out of the water,
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https://www.oberlo.com/statistics/search-engine-market-share
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>As of February 2023, a whopping 93.37% of all search queries conducted across all search engine providers are done through the internet giant. In other words, more than nine out of ten internet users who search for information online do so through Google.
By comparison, its closest rival, Microsoft’s Bing, is only managing a fraction of Google’s volume. Bing currently has a market share of 2.81%.
fortnitefunnies3 t1_jd5xfrd wrote
Ok now compare that revenue to google
TxTechnician t1_jd7756l wrote
Is the gray.
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arothmanmusic t1_jd6k013 wrote
My B2B ads do better on Bing than Google. Now if they could only get rid of Yahoo…
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shableep t1_jd797co wrote
Let’s be honest. This subreddit is really r/dataisinteresting
Ostracus t1_jd8e4db wrote
Or simply r/charts.
Lucian_98 t1_jd7c3xh wrote
how much does Google make per year ?
leksal t1_jd7msy1 wrote
Now imagine how much Google is making just from the search engine
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Whornz4 t1_jd7q7e2 wrote
And Twitter dropped off this list real quick
kellerlanplayer t1_jd7xfhb wrote
I use Ecosia to plant trees while searching and they use Bing.
notathrowawayacc32 t1_jd7z9oc wrote
It would be interesting to see the value per search too. I'd assume that older people who don't know how to download chrome might be more likely to click on ads etc.
Deadman_Wonderland t1_jd88ah1 wrote
99% of the search on bing is for porn, the remaining 1% is for Google
Ostracus t1_jd8d7qh wrote
Go to pornhub for all one's needs.
nietthesecond99 t1_jd89qgz wrote
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Google would be far less efficient with their market share. I'd bet that Google's search engine only profit per percentage of market share would be astronomically less than Bing's. But I could be just as wrong.
repeatrep t1_jd8bt6w wrote
an area graph of 3 colours somehow took me 30 seconds to figure out whats going on
hellwisp t1_jd8btla wrote
What the flip.. I gonna Bing that to fact check.
kirkbot t1_jd8fpg7 wrote
TIL some ppl seem to use tiktok as a search engine?
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LocksmithConnect6201 t1_jd8w5o8 wrote
What the fuck is this chart
shapesize t1_jd8wnu4 wrote
No one feels the need to Ask Jeeves anymore
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Previous_Start_2248 t1_jd986pr wrote
You can sign up for. Microsoft rewards and use Bing to search. After a while you can get some gift cards. Over 8 years I've been able to get at least $50 in gift cards for Amazon for just using Bing.
Newish_Username t1_jd9e4bf wrote
With AI, it's about to get more....spread out.
_stupidnerd_ t1_jd9o32w wrote
And yet still, I believe that 99.9% of their search requests are from people searching for Google.
TheSquishyFishy t1_jd9om1q wrote
People still use Google? This can't be right
polomarkopolo t1_jd8rc4b wrote
The only people I know who use Bing, use it exclusively to find pornography that Chrome doesn't let them find as easily
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bill_gates_lover t1_jd6gv2x wrote
Lmfao how is bing making more money than tiktok
TxTechnician t1_jd77485 wrote
Bing is caked into the number on os in the world. Most ppl don't know or care to switch.
It's been baked into o365 for years too. So basically it has 5 billion dedicated users. And most of them are businesses
firemage22 t1_jd7le4k wrote
I use Bing to search for Google which I then use to search for Firefox when setting up a new computer.
Then I never use Bing or edge again.
Mindless-Pilot-Chef t1_jd7wd7y wrote
Until you realise 97% of searches on Bing are “google”
Schmusebaer91 t1_jd710tx wrote
thats bc only stupid ppl use bing because they dunno how to change standard settings etc. stupid ppl will also click more ads.
Ostracus t1_jd8dhao wrote
Next up in data is beautiful, adblockers market share.
Medcait t1_jd74q9i wrote
The only people who even click on Bing are just using it to try to get to something else. Or their work requires it.
_eg0_ t1_jd80x5q wrote
Bing is actually pretty good now. Been trying it since the last update. Used to really hate it before.
Happyandyou t1_jd53dii wrote
TIL Bing is still a thing
bigboi_mike t1_jd799ne wrote
Bing rewards u with voucher cards and is slightly less biased/woke. Anyone using Google search in 2023 is an NPC. Even private search engines are better.
soldforaspaceship t1_jd68six wrote
I don't know if people are aware but Google is blocked in China. Bing is not. I lived there for more than a decade and only used Bing while there. I suspect most of Bing's revenue comes from China.