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SupOrSalad t1_itt9cgi wrote

I wouldn't really pay attention to Rtings Soundstage scores as they come up with their own methodology, but yes the HD600 is known for not having the largest Soundstage as an open back

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GamePro201X t1_ittasji wrote

don't pay attention to rtings scores. they are known to be pretty weird. it is true though that the soundstage in the HD600 is lacking compared to other open backs

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Clickbaitllama t1_ittmhxd wrote

In my experience yes, but I still vastly prefer anything from the 600 series to the sr850.

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Alpintosh t1_ittqdqk wrote

The moment I saw their claim about M50X being better than Focal Elegia, I started being a bit sceptical about their comparisons..

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Titouan_Charles t1_ittrh5f wrote

To be fair, quite a few closed backs have better soundstage than the HD600

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Buggyworm t1_itu47fp wrote

HD 600 doesn't have a particularly big soundstage to begin with, so most open backs should be better than that

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namesdevil3000 t1_itubctm wrote

All these people saying that rtings isn’t good for ratings. Is there anything that rtings does well? I know they can be a source for frequency response graphs.

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Clickbaitllama t1_itvglc3 wrote

I would personally look at rtings for things not related to sound performance. Things like mic quality, comfort, durability are factors that I think they present well and accurately.

Their raw fr graphs are good to, but the reason I would use squig or crinacle over them is because, unlike rtings, you can change the target response.

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dstarr3 t1_itvhz5j wrote

RTings are absolute geniuses when it comes to TV and monitor reviews. Headphones, though... not so much.

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renerem t1_itvvhkt wrote

If I remember correctly I think Rtings is using the HD800S's frequency response (a headphone known for it's huge soundstage) as a reference for the soundstage "measurements" of other headphones. And while I think that you definitely can get an idea on the stage of a headphone with their measurements, it is not an accurate thing and you should use your own ears for that in the end. But yes, the HD600 is not that good of a choice if you are looking for an expansive stage and the SR850 might very well be "better" than the HD600 for that, just like Rtings suggests.

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SteakTree t1_itw9fgd wrote

Sure hd600 will sound more closed in when listening to regular stereo music. Play back binaural or use spatial audio, and then there frequency response curve is almost perfect allowing for spherical soundstage reproduction

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AntOk463 t1_ityjv7e wrote

Their frequency response measurements, product dimensions, and sound isolation and leakage data is amazing abs can be used to accurately compare headphones. But things like soundstage can't easily be measured and it's better to look at what people say about it instead of just the number listed. Some people have argued about their comfort scale as well, saying they reduce the score a lot for a very small detail which isn't even an issue for most people.

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