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pinkcunt123 t1_j5o44lv wrote

The RME is truly THE DAC to rule em all.

Although, for people like me, who don't need all the software functionality, I'd really appreciate an RME ADI 2- Light.

Same inputs and outputs, same amp and DAC, just without the software and display, thus cheaper.

One can dream, right?

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TRX808 t1_j5o4xvd wrote

Just buy a different DAC? The software functionality (including screen) of the ADI is what makes it $1K. The inputs and outputs aren't anything revolutionary.

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pinkcunt123 t1_j5o5boy wrote

Maybe I should clarify my point:

If you don't wanna buy chinese, you are basically out of luck, when it comes to good performing DAC/amp combos with balanced XLR outs.

The ADI 2 is one of few that fit that bill but is also highly expensive.

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TRX808 t1_j5o6c29 wrote

Schiit? Geshelli? I'm sure others.

All the PCB's and many of the chips are made in China regardless.

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pinkcunt123 t1_j5oa95i wrote

The Jotunheim with a DAC module is 690€ The Modius alone is 350€ and that is a standalone DAC. Gashelli unavailable in Europe.

Meanwhile SMSL offer a complete package with balanced out for 240€ in the C200.

If everything is made in China regardless, why even bother with schiit then?

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TRX808 t1_j5oce0f wrote

>If everything is made in China regardless, why even bother with schiit then?

That was your question, now you're moving the goal posts:

>If you don't wanna buy chinese, you are basically out of luck

>The ADI 2 is one of few that fit that bill but is also highly expensive.

Schiit and Geshelli are American brands. RME is a German brand. They still source their PCB's elsewhere.

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pinkcunt123 t1_j5oiemz wrote

I don't give a shit about where the PCB is from.

I do care however, about how servicing, warranty claims and potential returns are gonna be handled.

With Chinese brands that have no office within the EU that's often an issue.

Ordering through Amazon is ok, because you can return it within two weeks, if something were to go wrong. But not everything is available on Amazon. And after the return window closes one is kinda FUCKED.

Good luck getting my cheap chinese electronic repaired in the EU. All the way back to Shenzhen it goes, with all the hassle and customs nonsense that entails. Nah thx.

SMSL's and Topping's pricing is aggressive and I just wish there was some competition from EU brands. I don't expect RME to offer something at 240€, which is never gonna happen. But at least 500€ or so would be a nice change of pace over here.

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TRX808 t1_j5ojxpd wrote

I addressed your Chi-Fi service complaints as well, you could have posted that further up... but why not let other people wait out your true sentiments?

You seem to be perpetually upset.

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pinkcunt123 t1_j5oftu2 wrote

?

Excuse me for wanting to buy from a Brand that actually has customer support and service centers IN MY COUNTRY?

Nothing to do with being xenophobic.

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TRX808 t1_j5ogd7e wrote

TBF dealing with some Chinese companies can be pretty rough. You almost always have to pay shipping for returns or RMAs back to China as well which further complicates things.

EDIT - Looks like I was beat to this similar comment.

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beagleboyj2 t1_j5q3ovd wrote

They literally explained why, your reading comprehension could use some work.

>With Chinese brands that have no office within the EU that's often an issue.

No offices in EU = more difficult customer support or more often than not, no support whatsoever.

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MisinformationALWAYS t1_j5pqmlc wrote

Are you terrified that a SMSL C200 for $185 performs as well if not better and offers the same input/output.

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pinkcunt123 t1_j5q4nsy wrote

I am terrified of SMSLs customer support and servicing.

I'd rather have a contact and service center within the EU instead of having to communicate with and ship to Shenzen.

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