Submitted by mbstor23 t3_yexezj in jerseycity

I’ll get downvoted to oblivion but just wait until you suckers get FY23 tax increases. Flood insurance rates are going up too. And mortgage interest rates just topped 7%. Good luck trying to sell or continue to afford to live in your home. It’s literally a trifecta of bad news and the items under city or JCBOE control are just tax and spend.

Downvote me all you want. I’ll personally reply to anyone 1 year from now reminding you how fucked you are.

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Goodbye_Sky_Harbor t1_iu0gw5f wrote

Yea the state of NJ is historically known as a fiscally responsible enterprise...

All of your points are valid, these tax increases are wild. The state taking over would fix none of that.

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Goodbye_Sky_Harbor t1_iu0hnl6 wrote

How exactly do you imagine the state taking over would work?

Right now there are what 300k residents and maybe 30k vote in local elections? I don't know either of those numbers but it's roughly to scale.

So with that level of engagement small scale change is still incredibly difficult to come by in this city, but could legitimately be done with some organization. Its doable to win elections without crazy money.

Instead you want to give power to the state, where the representatives are largely not from here and are not elected by us, the residents. Do you know who could give a single fuck about Jersey City tax rates? The representative from south jersey.

This is a terrible idea, full stop.

Go register yourself to run for city council.

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doglywolf t1_iu0pc90 wrote

you do realize that was the case for the last 20 year and they only JUST got control of it themselves like last year

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theworst1ever t1_iu0t1bw wrote

Regardless of the merits of your opinion, “I’m keeping receipts and will follow up with everyone here over a stupid online comment in 12 months” is hilariously unhinged.

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keepseeing444 t1_iu0t6qy wrote

How about letting voters decide to approve school budget each year? Like they do in Secaucus and Weehawken in Hudson County and many others within NJ. The board is 8 out of 9 union endorsed so they are big enablers of financial mismanagement and misbehavior. There needs to be a hard cap like 2% to force them live within means. We need smart, honest finance person to run for some of those seats to fine tooth comb through all the vendor contracts and check for conflicts of interest and overpayment & identify all the deadweights in administration.

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Brudesandwich t1_iu0xgoi wrote

But it already did and it did not work out well.

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Happyjee t1_iu1065q wrote

I wish I had the ability to vote and at the same time the percentage of people come out to vote is so low. How would you get meaningful change if you do nit exercise your right to vote

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Blecher_onthe_Hudson t1_iu11dmt wrote

The spending data the state makes available is deliberately impenetrable. They used to provide a spreadsheet per district with all the categories of spending statistics, but I guess that was too useful, now each category is a spreadsheet for every district statewide.https://www.nj.gov/education/guide/2022/ind.shtml

They provide defective spreadsheets where the sort functions don't work! I'm not an excel wizard, but with patience you can mine out tidbits. How about these comparisons of cost to other large districts in NJ.

Salaries and Benefits for Operations and Maintenance of Plant: 90|92. That is, we pay more per student than 89 out of 91 other NJ districts.

Teachers: 85|92 They're among the best paid in NJ, which means the best paid in the nation.

Extracurriculars: 10|92. We spend less than 81 out of 91 peer districts. No wonder our kids hate school! We're taking their school enrichment experience and giving it to overpaid teachers and maintenance workers.

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bobomerk99 t1_iu242q2 wrote

>I’ll be back next year to remind y’all that this is an issue and you chose to do nothing.

Lollll doesn't mean that giving control to the state would have been the right move 🤣 🤣

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suztomo t1_iu2pmam wrote

Will you do something about it if I upvote?

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PescTank t1_iu4586y wrote

The elections in JC are so horribly understated. At least we can get automatic mail-in ballots each election now, but unless you happen to be watching r/jerseycity for the occasional AMA... I see next to nothing regarding there actually even being an election, let alone who is running and what their platform is. We get the occasional bits of signage with people's name and party on it when the city elections coincide with presidential ones but that's about it.

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Everyone hates having their taxes jacked up to fund a corrupt board of education, seems like this would be a pretty easy issue to mobilize voters over, but a political scientist I am not.

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moobycow t1_iu4bmh4 wrote

School board is impossible to vote for, and an impossible job (sure let's have 9 unpaid people in charge of a $1b budget and rotate them every couple of years based on very little information). Schools should probably just be run by mayors, or the state

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