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Fantastic-Surprise98 t1_j288coj wrote

Statically, barely anything.

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Itchy-Marionberry-62 t1_j2bo7o7 wrote

That’s on top of 45,000 lost last year.

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Adorable_List3836 t1_j2bvd2h wrote

The population in Mass has been increasing for a little over ten years so to see it in the negative, even if it’s slight isn’t really a good sign

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alagba85 t1_j28nyon wrote

The great migration we’ve been hearing about? How underwhelming

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BlueJay_NE t1_j28ky4x wrote

Hopefully, they were MAGAts fleeing to the fascist utopias of either Texas or Florida.

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Past-Adhesiveness150 t1_j28ujyc wrote

They weren't. They're mostly well paid white collars that can now work from home/mobile thanks to covid. They got out of the city & burbs & moved to much more less populated/ rural areas.

My plan was to build in NH, till prices doubled. But we're back on track this spring.

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jp_jellyroll t1_j298pn5 wrote

Even among the WFH crowd, not everyone wants to live in a quiet rural area. Moving is expensive & tiresome. My company went fully remote in 2020 and of the ~40 in my office, only a few moved far away.

My wife & I strongly considered moving to western MA, NH, or even ME. But we had our first child and the schools in those areas are... not so hot. There's no money in a small rural town. And we're a non-white mixed-race couple, so there's another kicker. We're staying in the 'burbs.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j29e5uy wrote

And for those without kids or are single? Plenty of people did the "saving good money with nothing to do sociallly" thing in 2020 and would've called that hell.

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Inflamed_toe t1_j29v4n3 wrote

Absolutely. We don’t have kids and as soon as my company went remote we moved to the mountains. My cost of living has basically been cut in half leaving the Boston area, it has been fantastic

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j29drvn wrote

I'm sure that's part of it but I think it's easy to forget that a large chunk of the workforce in position to do working from home don't particularly want to live in a rural area. Young adults, especially those without children, would consider that to be hell.

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lostmindplzhelp t1_j29kac9 wrote

That double negative in the headline is mildly infuriating.

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saturosian t1_j29vq09 wrote

YES. If we lost -0.1%, does that mean we actually gained people? Why does it switch to positive 0.7%, is that supposed to be going the other way or is it a typo? It's very hard to get the story from the title

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Jpf123 t1_j27u6co wrote

Due to..?

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unitythrufaith t1_j28u8xu wrote

I’d assume the lack of remotely affordable housing anywhere with jobs

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ButtBlock t1_j291mxv wrote

Just think about how much unaffordable housing shaves off from GDP per capita. Every year. Imagine what NYC or Boston would look like if housing was affordable!

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Polynya t1_j29725z wrote

The paper “Housing Constraints and Spatial Misallocation” did quantify the effect of zoning restrictions and found that between 1964 & 2009 that it lowered US aggregate output by 36%. So our economy is would be about 50% bigger if not for housing.

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ButtBlock t1_j297fjl wrote

Yikes surprising to me that a small rentier class is able to override such a huge economic incentive.

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itsgreater9000 t1_j2azc8h wrote

the landed gentry have been developing techniques to hold onto their small but powerful position in society for centuries now

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mslashandrajohnson t1_j29txpq wrote

I get downvoted when I mention that. I hope our area can make more affordable housing. It can only improve our ability to contribute to the needs of our communities and beyond.

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Simon_Jester88 t1_j2956g7 wrote

According to some, we have become a woke, oppressive, communist police state.

In reality probably just higher costs of living.

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DickRausch t1_j2aod9j wrote

HCOL + abundant full remote jobs + early retirements (and subsequent moves to Florida etc) during covid

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gregkel22 t1_j2au6ny wrote

we have become a woke, oppressive, communist police state.

I'll say it. We have. How the fuck did healey get 113% of votes in some districts?

But I can afford to live here. Here and established. Many of the young coming up... Pack yo shit! Move somewhere they won't mandate jabs, masks. Go somewhere that the incoming Govenor doesn't scissor her inferiors on the job.

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Simon_Jester88 t1_j2av2rd wrote

Wasn't to hard, she was running against an absolute clown.

Healey can peg me and call me her inferior all night long. While wearing a mask.

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gregkel22 t1_j2avser wrote

>How the fuck did healey get 113% of votes in some districts?

Don't know what you are into dude, but read this again...

"How the fuck did healey get 113% of votes in some districts?"

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I don't care if she was running against a fucking log. She got "volume to 11" votes. Above and beyond. We know the volume went to 10, but somehow she found it to 113% Hmmmmm...

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And bullshit if it's ok for her to be fucking 3 of her inferiors. Media covered that up well.

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Simon_Jester88 t1_j2aya39 wrote

Your source is your buddy down at the station?

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gregkel22 t1_j2d60oy wrote

Yes. Jim at the station. He asked me to tell you to go fuck yourself. All set, Jim. Done.

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Simon_Jester88 t1_j2dgv6k wrote

I'm just here hoping Healey pays for my mandatory sex change so that she can scissor me.

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NowakFoxie t1_j2b50sk wrote

>communist

god i wish

>I'll say it. We have. How the fuck did healey get 113% of votes in some districts?

This page has the results by town. Please say where Healey got 113% of the vote, because the highest for Healey is Cambridge, at... 91% of the vote.

Also, I dunno why you're so obsessed with the sex life of someone else. That's kinda creepy, honestly.

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gregkel22 t1_j2d5tgn wrote

It's the whole legal part of the sex thing... You wouldn't understand. Big words, legal stuff..

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NowakFoxie t1_j2epy7l wrote

I can't find any references to this happening outside of conservative rags, and having been a conservative before (unfortunate) I'm well aware that they're even more divorced from reality than most other liberals. The veracity of this is doubtful.

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binocular_gems t1_j2a9mob wrote

Likely high cost of living and low relative replacement rate.

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Adorable_List3836 t1_j28ht31 wrote

People wanting more freedom and a lower cost of living

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kissmekate48 t1_j28rgmw wrote

Love the photo of the downtown with the Fells in the distance. /s

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HopefulDrink3 t1_j29r9zg wrote

Cool now I need to know how many people have moved here bc a bunch of people I talk to in Boston say they all have been here under a year or moved last December

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Dunder72 t1_j28rtp0 wrote

Kiss those traffic jams goodbye!

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CLS4L t1_j2934jb wrote

Sure

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LetsPlayCanasta t1_j28uvk4 wrote

According to the linked article, New York, California and Illinois lost the most population while Texas, Florida, and North Carolina gained the most.

Gee, there must be some reason for this.

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Adorable_List3836 t1_j2by636 wrote

People don’t want to live in an expensive nanny state, I’m not going anywhere but I understand why someone would leave Mass. As an adult, I can’t buy flavored vapes or menthol cigarettes, I can’t light off a few bottle rockets on the Fourth of July and I can’t buy the gun I want without it being neutered. Most adults don’t want the state government to tell them what they can and can’t do. I saw a different article posted on the Rhode Island sub with the same subject because Rhode Island lost people also, the only states that gained population in New England were New Hampshire and Maine.

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ManWithTheCats t1_j2c8jyo wrote

Your tears are delicious.

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Adorable_List3836 t1_j2cj6n4 wrote

I’m happy you feel that way but as I said I’m not leaving but I understand why people would. I have it made here, I’m living in the house I grew up in that I inherited from my parents and now raising my own family in, on land that has been in the family for 300 years, I wouldn’t give that up for anything. The school systems are great and it’s an awesome state to live in with plenty of history also which I love. Those examples that I made are some of the reasons why we are losing people, tax paying people that help our economy. Some people want to live their life without needing Maura Healy to wipe their ass for them.

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ManWithTheCats t1_j2cqr58 wrote

Lol You sound like a little baby. Especially when you assume “most adults” agree with you without providing evidence that that is the case. Implying that people are leaving the state en masse because we protect ourselves against dangerous lunatics who think they should be allowed to carry assault rifles everywhere they go and outlawing products that present a public health threat is childishly silly. Anybody who wants to leave for a red state nightmare is free to do so. We’re not loosing anybody we can’t live without.

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Adorable_List3836 t1_j2cvunq wrote

“Childish silly” is not being able to have a conversation or debate with someone without trying to personally insult them as you do. All I’m saying is that I can see why people are leaving for cheaper and freer states, all of those people that we are “loosing” are taking their tax dollars with them

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ManWithTheCats t1_j2efwqo wrote

You said “freer” to refer to states where women aren’t allowed to make their own health care decisions, certain people aren’t allowed to get married, black people are systematically disenfranchised, and religious fundamentalists decide what kids are going to learn in school. It’s an odd definition of freedom. As far as taxes go, there are plenty of people to fill that void. Capitalists depend on the populations of states that have good educational institutions. They whine about paying taxes, but the major sectors of the economy rely on the educated population that that tax money pays for. We’re not losing anybody important. Additionally, we’re in one of the best regions in the world if you’re concerned about being able to breath and find water as the human environment collapses. The dum-dums who vote for people like Ted Cruz can enjoy choking on their poor decisions. Anyway, I think we’re about done here, so if you need to get the last word in, go for it.

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ManWithTheCats t1_j2c8dl8 wrote

Capitalists should be ground into Soylent Green and fed to the poor.

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Itchy-Marionberry-62 t1_j2bo3zr wrote

Will only continue to decline…especially with the newly voted in tax increase. Connecticut did that…and now is regretting it badly.

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Past-Adhesiveness150 t1_j29ngux wrote

I could see the younger generation moving out & away to warmer climates in Texas or Arizona.Especially if you're keeping the same job & pay with a lower cost of living. My sister went to Austin for work & said it was clean & beautiful.

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AncientAstronauts t1_j2bknj0 wrote

Austin really isn’t that great. Lots of Bostonians but pretty small and depressing city tbh

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