Submitted by mike95242 t3_11dgi8y in mildlyinteresting
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dr3adlock t1_ja8g20t wrote
Why not, its the west that shat on an otherwise peacefull symbol. Lets disarm the nazies by neutralizing their version of this symbol.
Rockytana t1_ja8g8gw wrote
The swastika was taken by the nazis, it is a very old symbol from Hindu and others.
Edit: it’s a symbol of luck and prosperity, it was even used by the Boy Scouts and on coke a cola products
LordDaddyP t1_ja8gnl3 wrote
Thats the symbol of spirituality and divinity in Indian and Buddhist cultures. Not Nazism in this context.
BroccoliPrince t1_ja8hba4 wrote
That's not a swastika, it's a manji. The swastika's "arms" point the other way.
Originally this symbol, the manji, was (and remains) a positive symbol in many eastern cultures. There are similar symbols of luck and prosperity found worldwide, even in Europe. The Nazis wanted a symbol that was recognisable and beloved, they wanted something that people already had something of a stake in, so they took the manji and flipped it. Even their word for it - "swastika" - was taken from Sanskrit words. The whole thing was stolen from the top down.
(Edit: lord preserve me from the people who reply and then immediately block me - way to show faith in your argument, lads 👍)
MonSzyTheOne t1_ja8hdz5 wrote
Fitting since Hitler was a vegan
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rookiemistake01 t1_ja8hltj wrote
It's the Buddhist equivalent of being kosher. The irony has bee noted.
asparadawg t1_ja8hltl wrote
A manji is a type of swastika genius. And swastikas can point either way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
ThisCouldBeYourName t1_ja8hn2s wrote
If you use a gas oven, it'll really snuff out the spice
Kawachi18 t1_ja8hn5b wrote
It’s a manji. Not a swastika.
Banea-Vaedr t1_ja8hpzq wrote
Don't use it. Tastes like ash
BroccoliPrince t1_ja8hqoz wrote
Guess which one came first, GeNiUs.
heroin-bob t1_ja8hrz1 wrote
Stayshady22 t1_ja8ht1c wrote
Is it kosher?
Arael1307 t1_ja8htax wrote
Not sure why they put a Swatstika on the can. I looked it up, it's a Taiwanese company. Maybe some of the company owners are very religious and thought it was appropriate to put it on the can as good luck or positive message to it's customers?
I once had some business with a Taiwanese company and each time they sent a pdf file with their promotions, the first page was a quote from the bible with some extra text around it (don't know what, I generally skipped that page). So I know of at least one company that was including the owner's religion in the business. Not sure if this is something that happens often or not.
I'm also not saying this is definitely religion related, but it is the first explanation I can think of.
Edit: I did some more research. Apparantly some Taiwanese restaurants put a swastika symbol out to show they're a vegetarian restaurant. As it is (among other things) a buddhist symbol and some buddhist don't eat meat. So as this is a vegetarian sauce, the swastika is probably just symbolizing that it's vegetarian.
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ajv6200 t1_ja8i263 wrote
Except it wasn’t the west that shat on it was it…
asparadawg t1_ja8idlj wrote
Pretty pathetic that you can't even be bothered to read the article. LOL Neither came first manji is literally just another word for swastika. Next time educate yourself instead of talking crap.
cheapcoffeesucks t1_ja8ijn2 wrote
Pretty sure USA, Europe, and Australia are all considered western
hirschhalbe t1_ja8ikje wrote
Bro just take the L....
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No-Leading6909 t1_ja8iqg1 wrote
Who doesn’t love the others? They were the best.
harrywang88 t1_ja8is94 wrote
It’s also a symbol for Buddhists which a lot of Buddhists are vegetarian so it’s basically the equivalent of having a kosher label on food it’s for religious purposes
IronGhost3373 t1_ja8j2n5 wrote
ancient religious and cultural symbol, predominantly in various
Eurasian, as well as some African and American cultures, now also widely
recognized for its appropriation by the Nazi Party and by neo-Nazis. It
continues to be used as a symbol of divinity and spirituality in Indian
religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.
Various_Succotash_79 t1_ja8j3yb wrote
Germany is considered part of "the West".
EloWhisperer t1_ja8j5l3 wrote
Also it’s not like American bbq style sauce fyi
Puzzled-End-3259 t1_ja8j6ya wrote
It's also known by the Navajo as "whirling logs", not a swastika.
Mclovin4Life t1_ja8jqmt wrote
Oof. How embarrassing.
Rockytana t1_ja8jshj wrote
Hey, I’m hungover as hell right now and Buddhism was giving me fits on spelling it LOL
SwagFeather t1_ja8ju0b wrote
That’s Manji. I think one of the levels in the original Zelda is shaped like that too.
dudicus1414 t1_ja8k629 wrote
Well Hitler was a vegetarian ha
uv-vis t1_ja8k7u6 wrote
Yes, it was adopted into Buddhism also. I remember a big spat about a Golbat Pokémon card, with the symbol on it. And in East Asian temples and shrines it’s on the doors and everything. I’m sure plenty of tourists get a little confused and/or offended by it.
Danmarmir t1_ja8kkao wrote
OP is dumb as a rock
Billpod t1_ja8knh8 wrote
Ironically Hitler was vegetarian.
GurnoorDa1 t1_ja8kqhd wrote
Its a manji… how dumb are you bro
ShinkuDragon t1_ja8ks4r wrote
iirc japan's maps used the symbol to represent its shrines on maps, leaving more than one tourist fairly indignated.
Not-Smegma-0n_Demand t1_ja8kxgs wrote
Exactly, take back the swastika!
DryEyes4096 t1_ja8kzx0 wrote
When I was in Japan a Buddhist temple was marked with a manji on Google Maps. This has changed, I've heard.
fidgeting_macro t1_ja8l90i wrote
The manji is also used by various native Americans. It's a fairly common symbol denoting a spiral.
Buck_Thorn t1_ja8liau wrote
Popcorn, please. A large.
flyingardengnome t1_ja8lphu wrote
As you can tell. It is not slanted.
samtheking25 t1_ja8lvfj wrote
The west didn't do that, The Nazis did
No-Leading6909 t1_ja8lx0x wrote
Who is ironically Hitler? A different one?
No-Leading6909 t1_ja8m0us wrote
About time. I’m tired of hiding my Buddhist tattoo.
Disarray215 t1_ja8m4p0 wrote
To the left, to the left. To the left, not right left. Lol
ajv6200 t1_ja8m557 wrote
Yes. But it wasn’t the “west” it was nazi Germany. It was the nazis… not the “west”. And on top of that, there is no reclaiming that symbol, both can be used concurrently, as a Hindu peace symbol, and a swastika. Neutralizing the symbol and making it common place would be insulting to all those who were affected by the swastika. This is a very nuanced debate, but neutralizing a symbol to make it less bad would be the same argument for letting anyone say the N word to decrease the weight the word carries… it’d be quite to neutralize either
d3t3r_pinklag3 t1_ja8mcba wrote
The nazi swastika rolls the other way
babygrenade t1_ja8mcys wrote
Why is that ironic?
SgtCocktopus t1_ja8msu6 wrote
... literally made slaugterhouses for people.
XxFrostxX t1_ja8mu8d wrote
Asian product different type of swastika
cheapcoffeesucks t1_ja8mzeg wrote
You're right. I guess that was implied in you're use of "..."
ratsandcats1984 t1_ja8n3pl wrote
We need to take back the swastika. It was and is a very cool and meaningful symbol. If it can be taken then it can be taken back.
ajv6200 t1_ja8n9wf wrote
I could’ve worded it better and been less dramatic lol, hope you have a good day boss
cheapcoffeesucks t1_ja8nc7g wrote
Samesies
sandsnake25 t1_ja8ncr8 wrote
haha It's not a swastika. It's a manji. I know the feeling though. I had no idea it meant anything else until a young girl tried to sell me a bracelet covered with them when I was in India. She explained what it meant, but I still didn't buy it.
TrippySubie t1_ja8o5by wrote
Not every symbol is a swastika
tshwashere t1_ja8o5kk wrote
It's a manji, a symbol of Buddhism. The manji denotes that this product is suitable for religious (Buddhist) vegetarians.
As others have pointed out, the swastika has a very noble meaning before Nazi's appropriation. Many Asian and Eurasian countries continue to use the symbol for its original meaning.
tubagoat t1_ja8onhu wrote
I remember, as a 17yo in Germany, seeing that symbol on an old old church tile floor. It was found during an excavation of a church that was over 400 years. I was puzzled when I saw it and my German (language) teacher explained how it was around WAAAAY before the Nazis.
Imafilthybastard t1_ja8ot35 wrote
Everytime I here someone says "We're taking it back" I think of Randall in Clerks and remember that it's never a good idea hahaha
cfdeveloper t1_ja8ovj4 wrote
I'm down-voting post due to OPs ignorance. karma whore
Koolaid_Jef t1_ja8pwdg wrote
He also wasn't blonde and blue eyed which has always confused me tbh. Like Polish people are almost always blonde and blue eyed yet they were labeled how they were? Mental gymnastics if I ever heard
jayjay234 t1_ja8r1yu wrote
Thats NOT swastika because swastika, while it looks similar, is tilted 45 degrees.
SuccessFuture7626 t1_ja8r2x5 wrote
People Go around just looking for things to be offended by it seems.
Count_de_Ville t1_ja8r499 wrote
It's used for Buddhist temples. Not for Shinto shrines. Not nitpicking, just clarifying.
Killer-death-cricket t1_ja8rx76 wrote
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Billpod t1_ja8s4tk wrote
Sounds like the name of a punk band tbh
redclam t1_ja8sngx wrote
Good one, Dad!
2ball7 t1_ja8u8hl wrote
And this is not a swastika, they point in the other direction.
jroc83 t1_ja8uohq wrote
The nazis also turned it 45 degrees
captnjak t1_ja8vaaf wrote
This is not a swastika.
DystopianRebel666 t1_ja8w1tx wrote
the nazis were occultists and used various symbols from different mysticisms
r-i-c-k-e-t t1_ja8we75 wrote
He truthfully was not
GogettheDrill t1_ja8wmvl wrote
that isn't a swastika, swastikas are side-ways. That's just Buddhist/ Hindu symbol
r-i-c-k-e-t t1_ja8wpim wrote
Whirling log is just a variation of doing the helicopter
r-i-c-k-e-t t1_ja8wu8s wrote
This is false
r-i-c-k-e-t t1_ja8wwoy wrote
No he wasn't
x3B1x89 t1_ja8x7m5 wrote
wait until you hear about Hitler ice-cream. It's a real thing - google it.
WatchUnlucky5302 t1_ja8x882 wrote
Looks exactly like Rep Katie Hill’s tattoos that forced her to resign from the DNC not too long ago.
babygrenade t1_ja8xhzy wrote
It's a dietary choice. Vegetarians aren't necessarily good people.
Psych0matt t1_ja8xrbu wrote
I’m not sure bees can understand irony, but I haven’t asked them either
dudicus1414 t1_ja8xwuy wrote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism
He was off and on especially at the end of his life
SgtCocktopus t1_ja8y03e wrote
Still ironic... Nazi germany was one of the first countries to stablish modern animal protection laws but they slaughtered people in worse ways than cattle.
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Velociraptor2018 t1_ja8y7ms wrote
And he him self had brown hair and brown eyes
soorr t1_ja8y999 wrote
it's the symbol for temples on maps in Japan
Pavlock t1_ja8yfe6 wrote
Does it matter that it's square to the edge of the can? Isn't the nazi version rotated 45 degrees?
Zestyclose-Aspect-35 t1_ja8yg9w wrote
this is indeed a swastika, just not a nazi one
SoulLeakage t1_ja8yxwz wrote
Maskeno t1_ja8z0l9 wrote
Not for use on Dachau.
Kona_Guy386 t1_ja8z8qa wrote
I was a contractor doing some work at some Indians at their new house. They had some sort of blessing ceremony and these symbols were everywhere written with chalk lol.
The_Dough_Boi t1_ja8z8xp wrote
I know it’s almost been 100 years but it’s probably going to take a lot more time for that to happen.
AdultAccount23 t1_ja8z97e wrote
hey, why not, hitler was a vegetarian after all
No-Leading6909 t1_ja8zanj wrote
Thanks, son. Or daughter, or who ever the fuck you want to be.
trollu4life t1_ja8zbev wrote
The word “swastika” is a Sanskrit word
altruistic324 t1_ja8zy5z wrote
Its also backwards. Look them up side by side.
porchpooper t1_ja90ely wrote
Yeah, Shinto shrine symbol looks like a giant A to look like this emoji ⛩️ . Definitely was a little concerned when I saw swastikas on the map in Japan.
FairHous24 t1_ja90f95 wrote
It is still a swastika regardless of orientation. However, it is NOT the swastika of Nazi Germany that most people associate with this ancient symbol.
Puzzled-End-3259 t1_ja90lrm wrote
The very first but very unsuccessful helicopter
Disastrous-Mess-5643 t1_ja912ca wrote
Listen. This symbol can mean luck and prosperity, it can be a sacred symbol, but that was destroyed by the nazis. It’s true meaning was destroyed and cannot recover from that. People are always going to see a swastika and think nazi. There is no way to change that back. You can wear it and use it all you want, but first glance people will always assume Nazi. I’m all for reclaiming, but you have to take into consideration how it was used and if you’re willing to have others assume you represent that. For example: this post.
PsychicLawyer777 t1_ja9181k wrote
Swastika is in the opposite direction. This sign is of American Indigenous People or Hindu.
Billpod t1_ja91a7p wrote
Really? I'd always heard that he was, though never dug into it.
TarkovskyAteABird t1_ja91j5t wrote
You'd be surprised how much the west and the nazis have in common
Arnumor t1_ja91ofl wrote
At this point, we just need stickied posts in various subs that pre-emptively point out what a manji is, because apparently today's population has no knowledge of its history, and we get somebody making some kinda 'wtf, swastika?' post every week or two.
kurtcobainwaskilled t1_ja925lk wrote
sometimes it’s better to google first before putting it on reddit
samtheking25 t1_ja927q4 wrote
Key_Extension6648 t1_ja92phl wrote
Wrong direction for the swastika :)
AlexBucks93 t1_ja93etb wrote
A perfect arian is blond as hitler, tall like goebells and slim like goring
EngineeringDevil t1_ja93j3u wrote
i'm more confused on vegetarian barbecue
MonSzyTheOne t1_ja93oid wrote
hvc801 t1_ja93snd wrote
Swastika goes clockwise, my friend.
Investinwaffl3s t1_ja94aqr wrote
Imagine being low IQ and ignorant as fuck
BroccoliPrince t1_ja94ird wrote
Yeah, I've heard about that. Apparently Japan itself has been looking into removing it from signage and the like too. Iirc the decision to start phasing it out was driven primarily by optics and concern over how tourists would view it, which does seem a bit of a shame to me, feels a bit like just letting the Nazis keep it or something.
Ruyue45 t1_ja94ol8 wrote
This is 100% bait
amitrion t1_ja94pfn wrote
Just wake up from under a rock? Do better
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tankrd t1_ja958go wrote
Zyklone Sauce
jg_bigboypants t1_ja95y2i wrote
And flipped it so it looks like two stylized "S"s.
stopandtime t1_ja95yfm wrote
White people will find anything to be offended
It’s like their 2nd job lol
DreamyKnight t1_ja969dg wrote
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marchesNmaneuvers t1_ja96pb1 wrote
Yeah, it is spicy.
japachu t1_ja973i4 wrote
The Nazi's are part of the Western Civilization history. You can't just ignore it. That's not how it works.
blowfishbeard t1_ja9775k wrote
It’s Hitler, but made entirely out of iron.
skippyspk t1_ja9784h wrote
Remember, lefty loosey righty Nazi
-Aone t1_ja97elk wrote
This is not swastika - If it makes a cross its a swastika
samtheking25 t1_ja97f5v wrote
Sure they are but I don't think the Nazis = the west. Does ISIS represent the middle east?
No-Leading6909 t1_ja97ha4 wrote
Iron deficiency Hitler. I’el.
Secure-Bus4679 t1_ja97kzk wrote
I remember when I was stationed in Korea I saw someone selling teddy bears on a table on the street. It was little white teddy bears with a giant blue swastika on the chest. Definitely did a double take and was like “holy shit what the fuck is going on around here? Nazi Koreans?? Just out in the open like this?” And then I learned about the other uses for the the symbol and it made a lot more sense haha.
tshwashere t1_ja97oj6 wrote
This looks to be Taiwanese from the traditional Chinese. Taiwanese loves to barbecue, and a high percentage of the populace are vegetarians.
Barbecuing vegetables are a thing. Grilled shitake mushrooms are freaking delicious (they taste similar to grilled portabella, but I think more flavorful). Grilled yams, eggplants, vegetarians imitation pork and fish are also a thing.
blowfishbeard t1_ja97t84 wrote
I believe that means he defecates iron.
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MorseCodeMike t1_ja98601 wrote
The swastika goes the other way. That isn’t a nazi swastika
KingRhoamsGhost t1_ja987ne wrote
IIRC The original use of the swastikas actually included both rotations. The nazis took the less well known rotation.
Wildse7en t1_ja989jp wrote
And by the downvotes on the post, we can see how quickly people are to learn.
Not so much.
From a marketing standpoint, it’s probably better to not put a picture of a swastika on your product. If you’re trying to sell it.
japachu t1_ja989ob wrote
you seen American culture lately? Nazism is very prevalent in the west still.
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KookyHorse t1_ja99wxf wrote
Boo this man.
Booooooooo
notkeny t1_ja9a6pp wrote
Not a swastika
R3333PO2T t1_ja9an9y wrote
Thats not even what the nazi swastika looks like, the nazi swastika was designed on an angle and directed the opposite way. This is a buddhist symbol of spirituality
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ivannovick t1_ja9bcik wrote
There are many symbols with a totally different meaning, the Nazi swastika is crossed and points to the right.
The inverted cross is related to satanism but it really means humility, since Saint Peter or someone like him believed that he is not worthy of being crucified in the same way that Jesus did, for which he asked to be crucified upside down
SpecialistCrab7063 t1_ja9bzgv wrote
The photo you posted proves that it doesn’t.
lesmobile t1_ja9c7x1 wrote
It's been 80 years, i say we take the symbol back. Also Charlie Chaplin moustaches.
Bryanishired t1_ja9cp2u wrote
Yeah, the Nazis just adapted it for their own cause. It’s interesting how one group using a symbol (modified or not) can ruin the symbol’s reputation for everyone else who was using it first. :/
It makes me think of the American Red Cross. They’re very protective of the Red Cross symbol, just to prevent this sort of thing from happening. They don’t want it being associated with anything other than medical aid.
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mike95242 OP t1_ja9fpa2 wrote
I love you too.
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mike95242 OP t1_ja9g344 wrote
Maybe re-examine your priorities if this is getting you tilted, whatever that means.
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YourLocalMosquito t1_ja9iakz wrote
As everyone says - this is a Buddhist symbol. The difference is the nazi symbol is rotated 45 degrees. When it’s “upright” like this - the arms vertical and horizontal then it’s all good!
imbuzeiroo t1_ja9jkk0 wrote
Mildly fascist
AlohaChris t1_ja9qfv6 wrote
IIRC the swastika represents the pattern of the Big Dipper constellation as it rotates around Polaris in the sky.
MasterpieceBrave420 t1_ja9ydmh wrote
Jains and some Buddhists are vegetarian. They commonly use this symbol.
ShoalinShadowFist t1_jaa2kcj wrote
Don’t bother. There was a post recently about explaining how US is worse then a 3rd world country with mad awards and like like 3k upvotes.
ShoalinShadowFist t1_jaa2npl wrote
Til Germany is in NA
albertonfolk t1_jaam0l7 wrote
Kind of like the rainbow?
ShinkuDragon t1_jabf363 wrote
you're good mate. they are not the same and as the other dude mentioned they're both presented differently on maps.
yepprd t1_jabnjue wrote
Zis ez zi best Barbey que sauce en Duetchland
Artistic-Kale-6334 t1_jaboyy1 wrote
Look up “swastika” and teach yourself something.
Numerous_Baker2139 t1_jac867c wrote
this post is sad
Cartographer0108 t1_jactdek wrote
Who ruined the rainbow for another group that was using it?
LevelDrawers t1_jad4mfb wrote
I wonder if anyone in this thread will point out that the swastika existed for thousands of years before the Nazis appropriated it.
LevelDrawers t1_jad4xpa wrote
Yes, the reverse and 45-degree angle "facts" aren't really facts at all. There are many instances of un-tilted swastikas in Nazi Germany, notably at the Nuremburg parade grounds. But redditors are compelled to post the one thing they know every damned time this topic comes up.
LevelDrawers t1_jad59in wrote
We're downvoting because anyone who's been on the internet more than 5 minutes knows that swastikas are common in other cultures. We're tired of the fake rage bait and the same 3 factoids about swastikas being repeated every time the topic comes up.
Clevelanduder t1_jad9t58 wrote
It’s reversed - not the same
_TheTacoThief_ t1_jadacm8 wrote
Racists and Religonuts are the best mental gymnasts.
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uv-vis t1_ja8fxbe wrote
Was the sauce a little too spicy for you as well? To be honest it’s a little outside mein kampfort zone.