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eddymarkwards t1_j9ibrq5 wrote

That is a lot of words to say ‘people thought our movie sucked’.

Because if they didn’t, he wouldn’t be saying anything.

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That-Soup3492 t1_j9ieorx wrote

Lightyear is actually an interesting science fiction film that just shouldn't have anything to do with Buzz Lightyear.

It's another victim of only spin-offs getting greenlit, so everyone with an original screenplay has to cram it into some other property that people have heard of.

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eddymarkwards t1_j9ighh8 wrote

I think this is the correct answer. Well thought out and explained.

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PiLamdOd t1_j9iirlt wrote

If it wasn’t a Buzz Lightyear movie, people would have been praising Pixar’s unique hard sci fi adventure movie.

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Mestewart3 t1_j9inzoj wrote

Except it really isn't. It's a Frankenstein of tired and worn out sci fi tropes that have all been done better before, with a forced 'Pixar message' that does nothing but detract from the A plot.

The movie was bad.

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Turok1134 t1_j9if75j wrote

No, if you look at the user reviews from sites like IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes, people liked it okay enough.

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eddymarkwards t1_j9igvpm wrote

Ok, I get that as a metric. One proof point.

But I am going to go with economics. The fact is they spent $200k to make this movie and brought in $158k. And that does NOT count marketing spend.

Losing THAT much money, on ANYTHING, is a loss. A failure. Something that should end career(s).

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Turok1134 t1_j9ihohf wrote

If you use that same logic and apply it to say, Blade Runner 2049, then that movie should have ended Denis Villeneuve's career.

Or Scott Pilgrim for Edgar Wright's.

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eddymarkwards t1_j9ijtvv wrote

Bad directors SHOULD fail. Because they are bad.

Good directors can put out shit but redeem themselves with other works. But Rollerball, Jupiter Ascending, Batman and Robin by Joel Schumacher, THOSE movies end a career.

Martin Scorsese gets away with 'Hugo' because he is fucking Martin Scorsese. Guy Ritchie gets King Arthur. Does Don Hall get another shot after the financial abomination that is 'Strange World'?

Weird and difficult place to be sure.

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sjfiuauqadfj t1_j9igvd0 wrote

nah the guy is talking about why they think people thought their movie sucked. you dont learn anything if you just listen to the kids who say "this movie sucked," but you do learn something if you listen to the kids who explain why the movie sucked. this is them explaining that

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