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majorjoe23 t1_iuhti2m wrote
Nosferatflix and Chill.
fat_nuts_big_buttz t1_iuhuabp wrote
Is nosferatu a different interpretation of Dracula, or are they completely different source materials?
DonQOnIce t1_iuhv4y7 wrote
It’s an interpretation. As I recall, they tried to get the rights to Dracula and Stoker’s widow refused.
DissimilarLee t1_iuhv9cg wrote
How do you pronounce it?
Noss-ferr-ah-too?
mediarch t1_iuhwdln wrote
LupinThe8th t1_iuhx4ro wrote
It's Dracula with the serial numbers filed off. They changed character names to avoid getting sued by the Stoker estate, got sued anyway, lost, and every copy was ordered destroyed.
Luckily, they missed a few, so we can watch the movie today.
fat_nuts_big_buttz t1_iuhxccl wrote
I saw it a year or so ago. Great sets and visuals. I guess nosferatu was more than just "that guy from the one spongebob episode"
DissimilarLee t1_iuhyqsy wrote
Thanks!
Daydream_machine t1_iuhyzkd wrote
Just saw this for the first time the other day. Some parts are a bit cheesy by nowadays standards, but the actor playing Nosferatu does a great job at being effortlessly creepy.
ModernistGames t1_iuhzquh wrote
79' actually. Same year as Salem's Lot!
AnyImpression6 t1_iui0moh wrote
Unless your name is YMS.
ktaylorhite t1_iui2pwx wrote
I watched this movie a few years ago. The imagery is fantastic and it legit gave me the creeps!
ktaylorhite t1_iui2skd wrote
Someone’s gotta make sure the light switches work for the new hours the KK just kicked off.
Ok-Classic-7302 t1_iui2yt5 wrote
Interpretation is a word for sure. Someone above you said it best- "it's Dracula with the serial.# filed off"
saanity t1_iui33eg wrote
That's crazy that this movie is so old, Bram Stoker's wife refused film rights.
alreadytaken028 t1_iui384r wrote
You can understand why they made a movie where the whole idea is “what if the actor for Count Orlok actually WAS a vampire”
DonQOnIce t1_iui3bgo wrote
True, I guess it’s more accurate to say that it looks like an interpretation to us now because the Bella Lugosi movie from the 30s became what the culture sees when it thinks of Dracula. It is more directly an adaptation without permission.
DonQOnIce t1_iui3lcf wrote
It was made only 25 years after Dracula was published. So it’s like us adapting a book written in the late 1990s. It kind of feels like Dracula the novel is way older than film but in reality it was published right around the start of film.
RedLightsBurning75 t1_iui4p0g wrote
"Shadow of the Vampire."
kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf t1_iui5t1z wrote
There is also Shadow of the Vampire (2000), a fictional retelling of the production of the film, with Willem Defoe and John Malkovich.
Kligaxx t1_iui6ayn wrote
mischievous_kea t1_iui7bg5 wrote
One of my favorite movies. Next to Metropolis. Amazing imagery.
likebeerwithag t1_iui8iqv wrote
Images of this movie were the nightmare fuel of my youth but when i got older I sat down to watch the movie (at home) and just found it silly. But last week I saw a showing at a movie theatre with a big crowd and a live organist. The organist spoke a little but about the film (including German Expressionism and the original use of color washes on the print to denote nighttime and daytime). Needless to say it was a much better experience. The crowd joked around at first but by the end you could hear a pin drop. It's so atmospheric and just creepy as hell. Side note that the organist got a standing ovation after playing non-stop for 90 minutes
rivers2mathews t1_iui9x14 wrote
> It was made only 25 years after Dracula was published. So it’s like us adapting a book written in the late 1990s.
I don’t need this kind of attack on a Monday morning.
chocobococo t1_iuiajng wrote
There’s a version of it with a Type O Negative Soundtrack I watched when I was a kid. That was my introduction to the band! I’ll never forget that. Just amazing!
IrishRogue3 t1_iuib03s wrote
I blame both sides
JoeMcDingleDongle t1_iuid5zg wrote
I keep meaning to watch this, this week I randomly came across a freaking SpongeBob episode with this dude in it. So random. In the one I saw he was sick and his helper said he had a stuffy nose-terafu
SweetCosmicPope t1_iuiehd8 wrote
You might check out the Kino DVD of it. It has two different soundtracks and one of them is a little more modern, as opposed to the other which is the traditional music. I don't recall it being specifically EDM like you're at a rave or something, but I do remember there being some synth beats and stuff.
Bogorn t1_iuiepeh wrote
Oh Thank you and that maybe what I’m thinking of. EDM maybe a poor description I just remember it having a fair amount of synthesizers
wimyan t1_iuigz0y wrote
Actually same, most of the actors stood out as great because they really dedicated to the comic relief, not just sheer terror. Didn't think I could enjoy a century-old B&W silent film, but it's worth the watch.
Express_Helicopter93 t1_iuijfpn wrote
I dunno. I saw it while taking a film class when I was in uni, I remember it being too cheesy to be genuinely enjoyable. It’s neat to see how they made movies back then, as a novelty, but otherwise the movie’s not very suspenseful/thrilling/scary/funny/anything. I found it simply too old/outdated to be of any entertaining value.
TigBiddiesMacDaddy t1_iuijzr0 wrote
The best comedy movie ever.
HandsomeCowboy t1_iuil2q5 wrote
I'm gonna go cry into a bowl of Halloween candy 😢
Funny_Username42069 t1_iuilu57 wrote
nose fur ah two
possiblyhysterical t1_iuimcu5 wrote
Went to see this in theaters (in a 100 year old theater which was pretty cool) and some moments really do hold up. It would have been worth it to watch for its historical value alone, seeing the old buildings, costumes and rooms, but Max Schreck’s performance really is incredible. Is it a thriller or horror movie in the modern sense? No, but it’s a fascinating film.
The___Repeater t1_iuimtpu wrote
I also watched it recently, and aside from its historical significance (which it certainly has) I found it super super super boring with almost nothing to entertain a modern audience.
But hey, that's just me.
Solidus-Snake- t1_iuioh4r wrote
“Super super super boring”. Wonderful review. Very articulate. 5 stars.
RedpilledChris t1_iuiol10 wrote
Went to a similar showing Halloween pre Covid. Great stuff
Jman1994678 t1_iuiowy4 wrote
He was the one flickering the lights
GuCruise t1_iuiqdmw wrote
That sounds awesome, where was this?
xrbeeelama t1_iuiqjlm wrote
There are a couple legit scary images/scenes in this, fun to watch every couple years
frenchtoast_assassin t1_iuiqknd wrote
Saw this recently for the first time and...possible hot take, but I prefer Nosferatu over Lugosi's Dracula. It felt more entertaining.
TateTaylorOH t1_iuiqry0 wrote
This is the intended viewing experience of these old movies. It was as much about the live music as it was the movie.
LloydtheLlama47 t1_iuir7cu wrote
Looking back as an adult, why the hell was that in Spongebob? Lol, it obviously wasn’t for the kids to guess and even adults that’s a hit or miss reference. A reference that doesn’t really even have a joke tied to it, Nosferatu just shows up.
Gordon_Gano t1_iuir9u8 wrote
It is, it’s a boring movie. The scenes with Orlock are spellbinding, but everything else is a slog. There just isn’t that much else to say about it.
Plop_Squaty t1_iuirey7 wrote
Larry Wong and his gang were watching this in King Of New York
drmirage809 t1_iuisd30 wrote
I love that clip. It's so out of left field and a reference that went completely over my head as a kid. Nowadays it just makes me wanna go and watch the movie again.
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JohnCavil01 t1_iuit0ee wrote
Saw it for the first time just this past Friday at a candlelight screening in an old cathedral with a live organ doing the score.
It was awesome!
likebeerwithag t1_iuitfnt wrote
The Jane Pickens Theatre in Newport, RI. The theatre was also celebrating its 100 year anniversary janepickens.com
FullAutoOctopus t1_iuitk1b wrote
My local symphony here in saskatoon, just did a tour through local towns theatres playing the music for this live, while the film plays in the background. It was amazing.
HailToTheThief225 t1_iuitr2o wrote
I thought it was hilarious as a kid even not knowing who Nosferatu was. I don't think the joke would've hit the same if it were anyone else.
ollizu_ t1_iuitr3q wrote
Saw Metropolis with live orchestra pre-covid. Amazing indeed!
cravenj1 t1_iuittc8 wrote
CPower2012 t1_iuiu70e wrote
Shadow of the Vampire with Willem Dafoe is also amazing.
MINKIN2 t1_iuiufuk wrote
Hey Snap! The Wizard of Oz takes my number one slot though. But that has always been my childhood favourite.
The___Repeater t1_iuiut2y wrote
F33DBACK__ t1_iuiw7a9 wrote
Nah spheur ah toe
hazeldazeI t1_iuiw8az wrote
Joe Bob Briggs on the Shudder channel just did this movie with the version that used the original score. He gave a lot of background about German Expressionism and it was great. I've seen this movie before that used a different score and it was so-so. This version is somehow so much more creepy. Definitely check it out.
ddevilissolovely t1_iuiwisl wrote
It's not a real word but it was presented as an ancient Romanian word so it would be feh-rah with a rolled R, not fur-ah.
mrhelmand t1_iuixqla wrote
I watched this on a Twitch stream a couple of years ago [and again this past weekend] and was struck by how something made so long ago and with no audible dialog can have much more tension that most horror movies made today.
I know a remake is in the offing but there's no way it will come close, surely?
Oh, and if you've not seen Shadow of the Vampire, get on that, very underappreciated film.
MoobyTheGoldenSock t1_iuiy48m wrote
Unlicensed adaptation would probably be the best description.
They tried to change just enough to call it an original work, including switching all the character names and changing the ending (stake in the heart was replaced by sunlight.)
NoPantsNoMasters t1_iuiy6uw wrote
Here it is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xl0l0gtK6g
Jacobmeeker t1_iuiyfl0 wrote
I need to watch this movie all the way through, definitely got more out of the Werzog version but Max Shrek is definitely the creepiest looking vampire.
SouthDiesel t1_iuizi33 wrote
What a picture
joshbudde t1_iuj2go1 wrote
I love the movie they made with Willem Dafoe envisioning 'what if they were making Nosferatu with a REAL vampire' 'Shadow of the Vampire'.
BobbiFleckmann t1_iuj2q3m wrote
I saw this movie at age eight and didn’t sleep for two weeks. That it appeared so “old” — silent with grainy black and white shadows — made it even more terrifying. Max Schreck truly looked like the living dead as Count Orlock.
joshbudde t1_iuj31la wrote
That movie is possibly..no, definitely, my favorite vampire movie. When he's eating the fucking light people and the director calls him on it and he just hisses and goes about his business? chefs kiss
joshbudde t1_iuj3ecd wrote
The local art theater does a showing of it every year with live organ accompaniment and they rescore it every year and every year its straight fire. I don't know how you can get bored during the movie--its filled with tension! The organ music adds a lot, but even without it, its still great.
DullAlbatross t1_iuj3gpt wrote
Got to see this last year with a live organ playing the background.
Was great.
KindlyOlPornographer t1_iuj972k wrote
Thats not how he dies in the book.
They decapitate him and stab him in the heart at the same time, with regular knives.
GaryGeneric t1_iuja988 wrote
Starring Willem Defoe? I’ve heard similar rumors.
Sleepy_Azathoth t1_iujcogn wrote
I watched it for the first time at 11 ywars old on TCM, and not only it made me fall in love with horror, but with cinema as well.
And after watching and reading tons of tons of horror stuff, Nosferatu continues to scare the shit out of me, just like it did 22 years ago.
NOT-Mr-Davilla t1_iujdq9f wrote
For real! I love this movie!! I remember telling my brother and sister a few years ago that this was one of my favorite (okay, actually favorite back then) horror movie. They just laughed at me and went on and on about how it’s so old and so cheesy.
Internet-Ivan t1_iujegud wrote
no time to answer. gotta feed muh kidz
well-lighted t1_iujen8b wrote
Honestly, just seeing “the 1990s” instead of just “the ‘90s” is triggering to me at this point.
I had a 7th grade student recently write “the 1900s” to refer to the 20th Century (specifically, the 60s/70s) and I just about died on the spot.
AmeliaMangan t1_iujgjzv wrote
And Love At First Bite, and the Frank Langella Dracula. I can't help but wonder if the vampire resurgence of that year might've had something to do with this being roughly the point where the very first instances of AIDS (though not yet recognized as such) began to show up in the US.
(Possibly worth noting: the novelization of Herzog's Nosferatu is by Paul Monette, who would later go on to become a major chronicler of the AIDS era. His novelization is superb, gorgeous and scary and sad, a great book in its own right and well worth seeking out.)
AmeliaMangan t1_iujhmzl wrote
>I know a remake is in the offing but there's no way it will come close, surely?
There was a remake in 1979, by Werner Herzog, and - I say this as someone who counts the original as one of her favorite films - it is an absolute masterpiece. (The upcoming one is by Robert Eggers, of The Witch and The Lighthouse fame; he's talented, but the fact that he's been publicly slagging off Herzog's astonishing film does not fill me with confidence.)
Crustybuttt t1_iuji3ic wrote
It is a wonderful film, tho I’m not sure how scary it would be to modern audiences outside of an academic setting where the significance of Murnau’s work could be addressed. Also, I think Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is still my favorite silent German horror film
uprightsalmon t1_iujilkm wrote
Love the shadow imagery. Painted it on my bedroom wall when I was in high school
Orcabandana t1_iujjfne wrote
This was the worst German Expressionism film I've watched. I liked Caligari and Metropolis. It was so dull and slow
Cake-Over t1_iujjj8o wrote
A long time ago I enjoyed a two week sabbatical at a hospital. One of the nurses was really over-strict. She got mad with me because I didn't drink the coffee that came with my breakfast (I'm not a coffee drinker). I took to referring to her as Nurseferatu. It made one of the orderlies giggle
mrhelmand t1_iujk3i2 wrote
I forgot about the 79 version, I will have to check that out!
JgL07 t1_iujlzjd wrote
It’s called “Shadow of the Vampire” there’s a comment on this post with a link to the full movie
jang859 t1_iujmw2w wrote
Malkovich! Malkovich!
GaryGeneric t1_iujn3fq wrote
No, I mean the Robert Eggers movie. I read somewhere Defoe was a possibility, though that rumor may just stem from them having worked together on The Lighthouse.
Although Bill Skarsgård (rumored on IMDb) would also knock it out of the park.
ModernistGames t1_iujoi6s wrote
While an interesting thought, I think that is a stretch. AIDs was not even identified until 1981. Vampire movies have always been around, they go in waves and are very flexible. I think the burst of great 70s vampire flicks was more just a product of the New Hollywood movement, in fact I think they worked brilliantly bringing a new, violent, sexy edge to the classic Hollywood story. That is one of the halmarks of the movement.
ZombieJesus1987 t1_iujprhy wrote
For a 100 year old movie, this still holds up! Timeless classic indeed
Skyldt t1_iujr9a1 wrote
like people have been saying, they changed a bunch of stuff to avoid being sued by the Stoker family. One of the biggest things they changed, that's still in action today, is the idea that vampires die in sunlight. in Stokers DRACULA, vampires become weaker in daylight, but don't die.
interesting, the family still sued NOSFERATU, won, and all copies were ordered destroyed. a few survived (obviously), and now it's widely seen as a masterpiece.
mariegriffiths t1_iuju0gj wrote
https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/research-and-teaching/departments-and-schools/music/events/nosferatu-with-andy-quin-piano/ you can see this famous moive composer play alongside a screening of the film a Royal Holloway in a couple of days time. No association btw
bigblueberryboobies t1_iujwcjp wrote
Favorite moment in that film is when the crew are rowing Dafoe to set. Then Dafoe snatches a bat and eats it in front of them. The two crew members are just like 😧
ifinallyreallyreddit t1_iujzjq2 wrote
It's an adaptation, but different in certain respects. Orlok's appearance is completely different from Dracula's.
BunBunSoup t1_iuk07di wrote
That's fair, I love it but can see why a lot of people wouldn't. Happens with every movie, really. Metropolis is another movie from that era I could watch any day of the week, but my friends would fall asleep after 10 minutes.
markhealey t1_iuk0j6v wrote
I watched this last Thursday at the local Minster, with live music on piano and violin, it was incredible
PhallicPhaggot t1_iuk0x76 wrote
oh man I need a link so bad please if anyone has it
PhallicPhaggot t1_iuk12nz wrote
TigBiddiesMacDaddy t1_iuk18ub wrote
Yee. I know it is a horror movie, but it comes off as a comedy movie to me. Nosferatu is like a big old goofball creeper who bumbles around. That standing in the doorframe makes me laugh because all I can picture when I see that scene is the guy going “Hey, wanna buy a timeshare?”
tyrionimpinainteasy t1_iuk1wn5 wrote
Max Schreck
majorjoe23 t1_iuk3voc wrote
There are a couple cool Nosferatu projects on Kickstarter right now, a trading card set and a rescoring of the film.
I won't link so I won't be accused of being a shill (I'm just a Nosferatu fan), but you can find them easily by searching the name of the movie.
Thercon_Jair t1_iuk4slh wrote
Saw this last year during Wave Gotik Treffen in Leipzig, they made a screening in the Grassi Museum and accompanied it live with one of the last remaining operational cinema organs.
DistastefulTruth t1_iukah0z wrote
nice try Beetlejuice
CliffBunny t1_iukank4 wrote
‘What an actor!’
potatolulz t1_iuhrfmk wrote
I also plan to continue to chill