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TheTurtleShepard t1_j6l3th5 wrote
I’ve also seen plenty of people talking about it online maybe not as much as stuff like EEAO but still a decent amount after the movie came out.
Also every person who I’ve had a conversation about movies with recently has asked me if I have seen Avatar.
Reddit just doesn’t like Avatar
SecretCelery9795 t1_j6l4xu1 wrote
Preach.
pleasereadthanks t1_j6l5nkd wrote
But what about the fool proof reddit formula:
"No one I know went to see it" + "low cultural impact" = "it's a mystery why Avatar 2 is such a big hit"
4354574 t1_j6pg0ud wrote
The YouTuber Man Carrying Thing mocked this exact dynamic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TNubnp4P8
pleasereadthanks t1_j6l61aj wrote
Absolutely nailed it
HonestBobHater t1_j6l38di wrote
Are you kidding?
If I had $5 for every time I heard someone talk about how no one's talking about Avatar 2, I could finance Avatar 3.
ERSTF OP t1_j6l47xh wrote
But we are not talking about the movie itself. We don't talk about the characters, or quote them, or do tributes or anything that indicates the movie is beloved. We are talking about why it seems to have no impact. I mean, yes, you talk in the lunch room why Karen from HR is such a bitch, but that doesn't mean that's the type of talk I wanna hear about myself
pleasereadthanks t1_j6l64lt wrote
Dae no cultural impact?
Huevos___Rancheros t1_j6l3zls wrote
Have you ever considered that you’re in an echo chamber? People have not shut up about this movie since it released, whether it be negative or positive, hell you’re even contributing to the endless discourse rn over a month later. There are hundreds of memes from this movie, that fucker in the glasses spawned multiple just by himself 😂
ERSTF OP t1_j6l4yt8 wrote
What fucker in the glasses? I haven't seen those memes. I talk about this because I do bump into very different kinds of people. I know I won't hear about Avatar from one of my best friends because he didn't like either, but I would bump into people asking me if I have watched Wednesday (I haven't) or whatever Netflix has released that week or whether I watched the recent release in theaters of a blockbuster movie, but I have yet to have someone ask me if I watched Avatar. I know the topic won't come up in my movie club because, you know, but at least I hear from other people I work with what new thing they're watching, even if our taste in media seems to be very different, but not this movie.
Huevos___Rancheros t1_j6l54eh wrote
You are living in an echo chamber and you don’t even realize it
ERSTF OP t1_j6l5pux wrote
No I don't. As I said, I bump into all kinds of people because of my work. One of my best friends has very different taste in movies than me. He is more of a mainstream guy and yet, no Avatar discussion. This is just one example. But no, no echo chamber since I really want to stop seeing Wednesday tribute dance videos. I have no desire to watch it and somehow I see a ton of people close to me reference it or talk about it.
infuckingbruges t1_j6l5h2h wrote
Are we really gonna do this again?
ERSTF OP t1_j6l5zm2 wrote
Yeap. There are other threads here if you don't want to do this again. It's not mandatory for you to comment, you know
pleasereadthanks t1_j6l5z0z wrote
It's because it appeals to families and average irl life people went and saw it, not terminally online pop culture nerds.
Aka the majority not the loud minority.
JPumpkinhead1991 t1_j6l632z wrote
There's just nothing really to it other than being a display of cutting edge special effects. Its a fun visual experience and not much more. And even that gets boring pretty quick once you get used to it.
ERSTF OP t1_j6l77th wrote
That's what baffles me. I mean it's fine, but 2 freaking billion dollars fine?
4354574 t1_j6pgto8 wrote
Really immersive, incredible experience of the closest thing to being on another world that there is, to see in the theatre. So people go see it. It’s not complicated. It’s not great art, won’t be celebrated as a milestone in filmmaking like LOTR or Blade Runner, won’t leave people stunned like Amadeus or Schindler’s List, but it’s a really amazing cinematic experience. Again, it’s not complicated.
Simaul t1_j6l6qf5 wrote
I think it's an age thing. The only people I've heard mention this movie are over 60, the same people who thought Maverick was directed by God himself /s. Probably good reason why those are both nominated for Best Picture this year.
ERSTF OP t1_j6l81om wrote
Funniest of all? Maverick is nominated for best adapted screenplay. I mean, the movie is fine, but best adapted screenplay fine?
But it's weird Avatar would connect with 60 year olds since it's... too "woke" for them (their words not mine).
AnxietyTsunami t1_j6l3e17 wrote
I got caught up in the hype on the first one and went to see it. The 3D was probably the best use of 3D out there but the story was so generic that I forgot the movie a week later and never felt the need to revisit it. I’m sure the sequel has it’s fans but I doubt I’ll ever sit down to watch it. Other than Aliens and the first Terminator I’ve never been a huge Cameron fan.
Queer-Cryptid-Hunter t1_j6l5q8q wrote
For a movie no one is talking about you fuckers keep making this exact same observation and it rings hollower every time it's said.
Ok-computer9780 t1_j6l5zgb wrote
Avatar is the strangest thing. It’s evidently super popular and yet I’ve never met a fanatic. It’s the weirdest non existent fandom thing.
pleasereadthanks t1_j6l6xw8 wrote
Where are all the Titanic or Godfather "fanatics"?
Some of the biggest films of all time don't have fandoms.
Rabid fandom for every franchise is a relatively new phenomenon mostly spured on by commercialism (merch) and the internet (commercialism).
Avatar is a good old fashion blockbuster hit, that doesn't need to rely on nerdom to make 2 of the top 5 biggest hits of all time.
Ashamed_You1678 t1_j6l7sd2 wrote
This is spot on. Films don't need a dedicated fan base to be successful. It's becoming rare obviously, but avatar is more in line with the blockbuster movies you just mentioned. And it's refreshing - online fandom for 'IP' has become so over bearing.
ERSTF OP t1_j6l733a wrote
This is my whole point. How can a movie this successful have no fandom. Many people say "because normal people went and saw it" but that doesn't explain 2 freaking billion dollars. All the highest grossing movies have fanbases, sans Titanic.
- AVATAR
- Avengers
- Titanic
- Avatar 2
- SW The Force Awakens
- Avengers Infinity War
- Spider Man No Way Home
- Jurassic World
- The Lion King
- The Avengers.
All those movies have fanbases except for Avatar and to some extent Titanic. 2 billion is a tough nut to crack and yet only 1-6 have achieved it
[deleted] t1_j6l6s0w wrote
I was shocked that people aren’t talking about how annoying Spider is. He’s worse than Jar Jar Binks imo. I could not believe how terrible that character was. If he’s in 3 I won’t see it.
SecretCelery9795 t1_j6l4wsr wrote
Not everyone on earth sees a movie and feels the need to discuss esoteric fucking lore. Did you know there are millions and millions of people who don’t post in LOTR or Star Wars subs? It’s true. I go see marvel movies and I never bought a fucking single comic.
People go to the movie. It’s a movie. Then they go home. It doesn’t have to have a massive ‘cultural footprint’. Why is this so hard to understand?
ERSTF OP t1_j6l5ae8 wrote
It's not. It's just that for such massive movies, you usually see it trascend cinema and ingrain itself in pop culture. Most people, even those who haven't watched it, know about the misquoted line "Luke, I am your father" or know who Darth Vader is or at least that he is from Star Wars.
SecretCelery9795 t1_j6l5o6y wrote
Sure, but that’s maybe the BIGGEST movie and most famous movie line of all time. Avatar doesn’t have a shocking twist moment. It’s appeal is in the visuals, much less so than the story.
ERSTF OP t1_j6l5vof wrote
Mmmm well, isn't Avatar 1 the biggest movie ever?
SecretCelery9795 t1_j6l63vp wrote
In gross, yes. And maybe it’s footprint isn’t in the volume of annoying ‘fan’ talk but rather in technological development. In that sense it’s impact is huge. Much like Star Wars actually.
ERSTF OP t1_j6l7ksu wrote
Oh my, as huge an impact as Star Wars? Many schoolars will disagree with you. Funny enough, Avatar built on what the prequels built. Before the prequels, digital filmmaking in all digital environments was unheard off. Granted, the movies look bad and aren't well regarded but the first leap was done by George Lucas
SecretCelery9795 t1_j6l8ntk wrote
Cool.
SecretCelery9795 t1_j6l5w09 wrote
Endgame is massive and my dad couldn’t recite a single character. My sister too, and she actually loves those movies. I get that it’s somewhat confusing, no one’s still talking about it. But people are seeing it because it’s a cinematic event. Singular.
ERSTF OP t1_j6l6e11 wrote
But with Endgame, you saw the memes, you heard people quoting "and I'm Iron Man". You saw a bunch of mashups from the "Avengers... Assemble" scene. You saw tributes to Tony Stark. You heard people seeing it over and over again. People would take their tshirts to see the movie. Not with Avatar. I mean, I bet at least your dad knows Captain America... or heck, at least Spider Man
Infernalism t1_j6l2nsy wrote
No one I know went to see it. I assume it's all a bunch of kids who grew up watching the original over and again.
pleasereadthanks t1_j6l58w2 wrote
You realise that to be in the top 5 highest grossing films of all time, neccesarily a wide range and a lot of people had to go see it right?
ERSTF OP t1_j6l3g3h wrote
Me neither. I watched it once and I inmediately forgot about it. For movies I like I go two or three times to the cinema. I have yet to meet someone who has seen this movie more than once.
NormabNKG t1_j6l6lr3 wrote
Because its weird af to go multiple times lol. No avg person watches the same movie in the Cinema lmao
njdevils901 t1_j6l3723 wrote
People who are chronically online need to realize there are people who AREN'T chronically online and actually go and see these movies. If you "don't know who saw it", that's just on you