Huh?

Of course there are things that are clearly thrillers and things that are clearly Horror. Always has been.

I'm talking about how marketing in the 90s, post Silence of the Lambs, used the thriller tag on certain novels and movies that probably would've been classified as horror previously, to make them appear more "classy" and appeal to a wider audience.

This is not a theory, it's what happened.

Hey do you like Terminator 2?

Guess what, the plot and structure of T2 is recycled from the first one almost beat for beat but bigger and better.

It even ends in a factory just like the first one.

That's how Cameron does sequels so successfully. He takes the same basic ingredients and makes them bigger and better with a little twist. Same with Aliens.

Jokes on them, even the most vanilla and safe movies people will find something to get "upset" about.

You monster

How so? Sorry, not sure if I get your point here

Where are all the Titanic or Godfather "fanatics"?

Some of the biggest films of all time don't have fandoms.

Rabid fandom for every franchise is a relatively new phenomenon mostly spured on by commercialism (merch) and the internet (commercialism).

Avatar is a good old fashion blockbuster hit, that doesn't need to rely on nerdom to make 2 of the top 5 biggest hits of all time.

Dae no cultural impact?

Absolutely nailed it

It's because it appeals to families and average irl life people went and saw it, not terminally online pop culture nerds.

Aka the majority not the loud minority.

But what about the fool proof reddit formula:

"No one I know went to see it" + "low cultural impact" = "it's a mystery why Avatar 2 is such a big hit"

You realise that to be in the top 5 highest grossing films of all time, neccesarily a wide range and a lot of people had to go see it right?

Magnolia is chock full of just people sobbing their guts out. Enjoy

I think the majority of werewolf stories don't really paint the wolf as pure villians but more tragic monster figures that we somewhat sympathise with.

The Wolfman

The Howling

American Werewolf in London

Ginger Snaps

Etc...

Oh there's also White Fang (1991).

This movie is such goofy fun, they don't make em like they used to!

Interestingly enough the book of Silence of the Lambs is largely credited for the death of the horror novel boom of the 70s and 80s, because now respectable people could read about horrific things under the guise of the "thriller" genre tag.

Wait till she gets a load of 2001: A Space Odyssey

That's not very ''culturally relevant" of you

You just need to watch the many serious roles he has done throughout his career then you won't need to picture it.

Both are excellent, King Of Comedy is more mainstream. Buffalo is more out there.

It's dense that's for sure, I loved getting sucked into that world and plowed through it, but I could see how it's not to everyone's tastes.

Sorry I edited my above comment but you might have missed it.

If you like historical fiction, James Ellroy does Crime thrillers set mostly in LA in the 1950s and he's sensational

Also have you heard of In The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco? It's a medieval Detective story.

I also like James M. Cain, Michael Connelly and Richard Stark for noir type stuff.

Trust me, I don't think anyone ever accused Patterson of being a genius! LOL he writes fast paced thrillers, most of which are garbage but there a few that are decent enough if you're in the mood for them I've found

If you like historical fiction and want some historical type thrillers check out James Ellroy. He's fantastic

His earlier books before he had them all Ghost written have a bit more depth, but it's essentially a formula that he uses because it sells big.

Try the first Alex Cross Book, Along Come A Spider. It's when Patterson was still actually doing the writing.

Can you give any examples?

It's crazy that everyone has different opinions. It's a massively overrated film