Submitted by lMickNastyl t3_yqnm85 in newhampshire
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lMickNastyl OP t1_ivp9dry wrote
Bolduc runs his primary campaign denying the 2020 election. Bolduc wins primary, trump congratulated and endorses Bolduc. Bolduc flip flops his position on the election results in the the general campaign and loses because obvious flip flopping.
Trump mad.
asphynctersayswhat t1_ivp9pfc wrote
No, trump endorsed him a couple weeks ago and the GOP thought Hassan was a guaranteed loss. They wer3 caught off guard and the orange baby needed to control the narrative and 5his was the best he could muster. Based on the house races, NH seems to have voted blue at the federal level all around so it’s not BolduQ so much as the maga candidates aren’t as popular as they think.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpa26u wrote
I wonder if nov 8th 2022 will be regarded as the election where trumpism began it's long over due decline. Trump backed candidates took a real thrashing last night and it would seem the Dems strategy of financing maga candidates paid off in spades.
The Republicans only used trump because they believed it would help them get elected. If the numbers show that being associated with trump is a negative then trump is going to lose any hope of a 2024 run.
dojijosu t1_ivpaagy wrote
When you have to win a primary among howler monkey Trumpers, you deny the election results. When you have to win a general election with normal people you say it was legit. That’s just Sun Tzu, baby.
Racer_Bait t1_ivpbiq2 wrote
I’m guessing Buldoc kept virtually all his primary voters. However, he didn’t gain all the people who voted against him in the primary. He flip flopped to try to win them in the general. So it’s those voters who decided not to vote/not to vote for him.
ThatWerewolfTho t1_ivpc2ok wrote
What a fucking chode. "He wasn't committed to the bit, was he folks? Very bad. Not good! I called him up and said, 'Don, you're committed to the bit, right?' and he said 'Well...' and now he's a loser."
wegandi t1_ivpdbf4 wrote
Pat Buchaninism plays well in the south, not in NH. Anyone with two brain cells understands this. I still cant believe the GOP want anything to do with loser narcissist extradonaire. The bright side is these candidates won their primaries with barely mid 30s votes so hopefully people will repudiate them from now on. That part of the party is not the majority. As a Republican I cant wait til they become irrelevant.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpexp9 wrote
Oh 100% that's what his campaign strategists told him to do. They knew the general election would always be an uphill battle for him but in order to do that he first has to win the primary. So they went with the new trumpism strategy to get his foot in the door. As soon as that worked he tossed them aside like the lepers they are.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpfcp2 wrote
As a Democrat I can't wait until the GOP kicks all these degenerates out and replaces them with sensible people. Because then the Democrats will have to actually try again and America as a whole will benefit.
KingShitOfTurdIsland t1_ivpi6pf wrote
Bolduc had no chance, we republicans knew it. There’s quite a few of us that have been vocal about distancing ourselves from trump and his rhetoric for quite some time now. It’s our own fault for nominating a candidate that enjoys controversy
valleyman02 t1_ivpjpxo wrote
Lock him up! Lock him up! Third time's the charm lock him up!
natedoggcata t1_ivpoas1 wrote
Trump and MAGA are finished. Almost all of Trumps endorsed picks were beat and a lot of conservative media outlets are now dumping Trump and are putting all their support behind Ron DeSantis.
Trump could also be their undoing in 2024. If he doesnt get the nomination, hes not going to just accept it and go away. He will probably run as an independent and siphon off votes from DeSantis just out of spite and cost them the White House.
TheMobyDicks t1_ivpol27 wrote
The Orange Rube is just trying to save face. Had Bolduc stuck with the lie, he would have lost by more.
farts_in_the_breeze t1_ivppe2l wrote
Trump's been subpoenaed for Jan 6th. Lets see what shakes out.
Tullyswimmer t1_ivprqqo wrote
Start with having your party stop propping them up during the primaries just so they have an easier path in the general elections.
https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/
A lot of these degenerates wouldn't have made it out of the primaries if it weren't for that Democrat money pushing them there. But they're too convenient for Democrats (for the very reason that this post highlights) so they're going to keep trying to make Trumpism happen.
Tullyswimmer t1_ivps09b wrote
> It’s our own fault for nominating a candidate that enjoys controversy
It's also exactly what the Democrats tried to ensure happened.
https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/
They got what they wanted alright. As long as Trumpism remains a thing, they don't need to convince anyone on policy. So they're going to do everything they can to make sure that Trumpism doesn't die out, because if people had to vote on policy and governance rather than fear, the Democrats would have gotten slaughtered this cycle.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpsbdf wrote
I get the argument, but you do know Democrats aren't the ones who voted for him right? If the GOP primary voter base had informed voters then they would've shunned bolduc as the obvious trap card that he was.
Tullyswimmer t1_ivpthiu wrote
"If the GOP primary base had informed voters"
If the Democrats hadn't spend millions of dollars in an effort to deliberately misinform voters, you mean?
I'm sick of this gaslighting. The Democrats knew exactly what they were doing. And they knew that they could always shift the blame onto the "dumb republican voters". And they knew that their voters would eat it up and cheer it on, because LUL DUMB REPUBLICANS AMIRITE.
It's bullshit. It's legal, but it's bullshit. If you can't convince people to win on policy, then change your policy. Don't try to influence the elections so you can "win" purely by having a less shitty candidate.
TheMobyDicks t1_ivptpfa wrote
>if people had to vote on policy and governance rather than fear, the Democrats would have gotten slaughtered this cycle
Historically, this is 100% accurate.
RickyDaytonaJr t1_ivptr34 wrote
There’s about to be a civil war in the GOP. Trump vs. DeSantis. The big money GOP donors know that Trump being the candidate in 2024 would be a disaster, so they’ll use their money to back DeSantis. Meanwhile, Trump’s shield against prosecution is to be the candidate. So, he’ll stop at nothing. It’s going to get very, very ugly.
BabylonByBoobies t1_ivpu2pw wrote
< reaches for popcorn >
asuds t1_ivpuymx wrote
I am going to disagree with you there as the majority of Americans appear to actually favor the policies the Democrats generally propose. It's the GOP Leadership that has convinced them otherwise.
e.g. Paid Family Leave, Medicare Expansion (happening often by ballot initiatives *over* republic objection), etc. See https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-support-progressive-policies-such-as-paid-maternity-leave-free-college.html
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpvydv wrote
The democratic strategy to fund maga candidates is a lot like Murphy's military law:
If a plan is stupid but works it isn't stupid.
If you don't like the fact that these candidates appeal to the lowest common denominator then what are you doing supporting a party that allowed them to gain credit in the first place?
I'm not calling Republicans dumb at all but we all know that the radicalized conspiracy riddled goons lean hard right. Most Republicans in NH are socially liberal but fiscally conservative and don't buy into this bullshit. That's why sunnunu got 320,000+ votes but bolduc got 70,000 less meaning a lot of conservative voters voted for Hassan instead.
The Dems caught the GOP flat footed this time because the GOP wasn't able to counter the strategy because there were no radical Democrats running to fund.
The silver lining here for the GOP is that they are unlikely to humor jerkoffs like bolduc in 2024. Meaning that America may be turning a corner when it comes to hyper controversial candidates running for office.
The simple truth is that there would've been no strategy to use if the GOP ditched their harmful dead weight. Defeat is the greatest teacher and they are unlikely to repeat a mistake twice in a row.
Rixtertech t1_ivpw4qn wrote
Ooooooh. Oooh! I like that idea. A split ticket would be great. Maybe republicans will find themselves liking the idea of seeing Donny in a prison-pink jumper after all.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpwguw wrote
It's going to get pretty interesting without a doubt, trump has no choice but to maintain his influence to stay a free and wealthy man so he will not stop at anything to achieve it.
With the subpoena for Jan 6th and the massive defeat to maga candidates last night I wonder how many in the GOP are seeing trump as a live hand grenade that needs to be dropped.
Tullyswimmer t1_ivpwip8 wrote
> If you don't like the fact that these candidates appeal to the lowest common denominator then what are you doing supporting a party that allowed them to gain credit in the first place?
I'd like to ask the Democrats that question, along with, "If these candidates are such a danger to democracy, why did you elevate them?"
Reducing the election to "vote for us or democracy is in danger because we ensured that it would be if you didn't" really doesn't sit well with me. I mean, I know that 99.999% of Democrats have zero problem with that as long as their party maintains power, so it's the strategy I assume we'll see in almost every election going forward.
Nothing more democratic than making people vote for you out of fear.
smallboxofcrayons t1_ivpwsbe wrote
Like Geof Diehl in Mass, he just wasn’t a good candidate.
Rixtertech t1_ivpx2tv wrote
I think we should just take a moment here to thank Don "Kitty Litter" Bolduc for asking us to Think Of The Children, in their little imaginary Furry outfits, licking each other. This verbal image, which absolutely no one pushed him to talk about, is just one prime example of jackassery Don committed on the campaign trail. Echoing QAnon Tucker Carlson bullshit might entertain the Trumpy Howler Monkeys but it is not the way to election day in NH.
Edit:grammer
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpxw9g wrote
Hannibal Barka crossed the Alps and crushed the Romans. He did it once because that strategy would never work again because the Romans admitted thier flaw and worked on their own strategy. The Romans responsible for allowing it to happen were humiliated and swore they would never be left so exposed again.
You see what I'm saying?
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpyl2m wrote
Voting rights expansion, net neutrality, lower drug costs, universal firearm background checks, lower cost daycare, consumer rights advocation, aggressive environment protection....etc.
These aren't controversial ideas people.
AKBigDaddy t1_ivpzr2x wrote
> because if people had to vote on policy and governance rather than fear, the Democrats would have gotten slaughtered this cycle.
They have to vote based on candidates, and 100% the democrats did everything they could to help the nutters on the right, the voters still selected them in the primaries. If the republicans stopped supporting the nutters, and the party itself actually did everything they could to distance themselves from Trump, it would die out and the democrats wouldn't be able to leverage it nearly as effectively.
You're exactly right that as long as Trumpism remains a thing democrats don't have to run on policy. They just have to run on "not affiliated with or endorsed by Trump" to win elections in the majority of the country.
It's a goddamn shame too, because when there's legitimate, spirited debate about whats best for the country, we all win. But when half the government is too busy shouting about how trump got robbed and the democrats want kids to be able to use litter boxes in schools, and the other half is spending more time pointing out the idiocy than they are governing, we're all being fucked.
Tullyswimmer t1_ivq0evg wrote
> You're exactly right that as long as Trumpism remains a thing democrats don't have to run on policy. They just have to run on "not affiliated with or endorsed by Trump" to win elections in the majority of the country.
And the Democrats have shown that they don't WANT to run on policy by their actions.
aDirtyMartini t1_ivq1688 wrote
Shows how clueless Trump really is. Bolduc lost because he was a poor candidate who did not resonate with New Hampshire citizens.
If the republicans cared about fielding quality candidates like McConnell said in August (instead of Trump boot lickers) then the results would have been different nation wide. Hopefully the GOP will implode under the weight of his ego.
MartoufCarter t1_ivq2c0d wrote
I very much like this concept.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivq2hb8 wrote
I guarantee that Mitch McConnell has said "told you so" every ten minutes for the past 12 hours.
sound_of_apocalypto t1_ivq2nsd wrote
That would be okay, but it would be better if they tossed it out of range.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivq2nrd wrote
Gotta_Gett t1_ivq2ubh wrote
He also made the statement months after the conspiracy was debunked. The first documented mention of the conspiracy that I've seen was Dec 21, 2021.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivq39hn wrote
Let's be real, trump would run screaming into a crowd with that grenade before he willingly fell on it himself.
Able_Cunngham603 t1_ivq62qe wrote
I agree with Trump on this one. Any good hoax / conspiracy theory only works if you play it to the hilt. If you show any signs of doubt, even the suckers start to see through the BS.
manwhole t1_ivq7sor wrote
Well explain the Hasan win? A candidate less engaging than a pair of beige khakis without a coherent political platform (aside from the acceptable platitudes towards abortion) who is an absolute establishment ass muncher.
While I remain hopeful the Republican party will exhibit some soul searching I am worried what the left learned: promote extreme Republicans in the primary, avoid a political vision, rely on extreme funding through party apparatus (including dark money) to inundate the population with negative messaging of opponent. Could the democratic party get shittier in the next 2 years? Sadly, I believe it is unavoidable with the outcome of this election.
Nestormahkno19d t1_ivq8tpm wrote
So how does he explain the rest of his candidates who failed?
Nestormahkno19d t1_ivq9f61 wrote
So how does he explain the rest of his candidates who failed?
NearPup t1_ivqak6q wrote
New Hampshire is about as “establishment” as any state in the country (when it comes to general elections anyway).
FenwaysMom t1_ivqcso8 wrote
Environmental-Job515 t1_ivqcwx2 wrote
Time for the old soldier to fade away quickly, take Leavitt with him
AKBigDaddy t1_ivqd42p wrote
Right now it would be suicide. The debates would be like chess with a pidgeon, and there's no way they come out looking good to the independents. Hard core right winger's would get the soundbites, despite having nothing of substance to say, by basically being outrageous. This will inflame their base "because they're just like us", and the independents would focus on the fact that the democrat isn't getting as many 'gotcha' points as the republican, despite the republican not focusing on any viable policy. When you have 2 people debating actual policy, then the people can make an informed decision.
The path we're on now will get herbert mountain dew camacho in the fucking presidency in a few years.
Economy_Influence_92 t1_ivqdg5a wrote
Don lost because his tucked in Polo shirts were way too tight...
Dunaliella t1_ivqgpu7 wrote
What a piece of shit.
Glad_Vanilla_7121 t1_ivqhz42 wrote
Just goes to show Trump doesn’t know NH conservatives, or NH politics, at all.
nimama3233 t1_ivqljq5 wrote
Here you go:
> As votes rolled in from across the country Tuesday night, Donald Trump said something truly incredible when asked about how much credit or blame he should get for the election results.
> "I think if they win, I should get all of the credit, and if they lose, I should not be blamed at all," Trump told NewsNation, adding: "But it will probably be just the opposite."
You can’t make that shit up lmao
miketoronto17 t1_ivqnifo wrote
*politics at all
KJBNH t1_ivqocvo wrote
Hassan’s win is super easy to explain: she isn’t a Trump boot licker.
psiloryben t1_ivqoh6p wrote
I mean, that was one of the reasons I didn't vote for Bolduc, but not the way Trump thinks
warren_stupidity t1_ivqozna wrote
Take responsibility for your voters in your primary. Blaming the Democrats for what your base did is ridiculous. Also Bolduc was the anointed qmaga candidate, at least in my town, long before any Democrats provided any help for the self implosion.
psiloryben t1_ivqp1pc wrote
>Well explain the Hasan win?
It was her, the guy who couldn't commit to which side of a conspiracy he wanted to milk, or the guy who wanted to abolish child labor laws.
Low-Head-1493 t1_ivqqbdh wrote
I know shit’s bad right now with all the starvin’ bullshit. And the dust storms. And we runnin’ out of French fries and burrito toppings. But I got a solution…
HowardNelsonJr t1_ivqsi8p wrote
No, Bolduc lost because Maggie hassan outspent him 20:1 and ran 90 false attack ads a day that you all believed. She lied her ass off, presented herself as the opposite of what she really is, ran 100% on aborting babies and won. Unbelievable.
nobbyv t1_ivqt1m8 wrote
Exactly. If he’d never said it in the first place, he wouldn’t have needed to flip-flop and might have been considered a serious candidate.
Deadybears t1_ivqt677 wrote
Luh-hu-hu-hoooo-zerrrrr
ANewMachine615 t1_ivqtcvk wrote
He'd also have to back off his "vaccines have computer chips" belief, and like half of his other shit.
manwhole t1_ivqtg4o wrote
She certainly presents as an establishment ass muncher.
KJBNH t1_ivqtkl7 wrote
Better than a Trump boot kicker that’s for sure and explains why she absolutely demolished Bolduc.
manwhole t1_ivqtl3w wrote
Fair enough.
EntertainThis493 t1_ivqtsda wrote
People don't like change, so they voted for who was already there? Better the devil you know, than the one you don't.
manwhole t1_ivqttub wrote
I like to imagine that is true... but I cant say i am very confident she is a better choice.
manwhole t1_ivqtzma wrote
Is that why people chose trump in 2016?
TacoTwn t1_ivqv5y3 wrote
F’ng genius response.
nobbyv t1_ivqw0a2 wrote
I hadn’t heard about the vaccine one, and forgot about the litter box thing. OK, maybe the election denial wasn’t the only thing keeping him from being a serious candidate.
infantinemovie5 t1_ivqw8e8 wrote
Cry about it
EntertainThis493 t1_ivqwg0w wrote
There wasnt an incumbent then. As incumbents Sununu, Hassan, and Pappas all got reelected for NH.
icedcornholio t1_ivqx4em wrote
So why did Karoline lose?
470vinyl t1_ivqx4vm wrote
Im gonna miss that ad.
partyjorts t1_ivqyc6o wrote
disco_t0ast t1_ivqynn1 wrote
Mmmm delicious MAGAt tears
beardmat87 t1_ivqzqtb wrote
Yup, it’s grifter 101. It’s why Trump himself won’t stop the stolen election narrative he knows is all untrue. Because once he does the walls of the con start to cave in, and he can’t campaign and fundraise on it anymore. If Trump is anything it’s one hell of a conman.
beepboopbeep1000 t1_ivr05gr wrote
What a great idea! KKKaroline, too.
beepboopbeep1000 t1_ivr0aa7 wrote
beepboopbeep1000 t1_ivr0hcd wrote
The good ol....iuuno. Well played Trump. I picture the passed shoulder shrug with it. Then...what can you do? I tell you what can you do?
BakedBeansBazar t1_ivr0to3 wrote
I'll prove this wrong, but I'm using my litter box right now. Will check back in.
BakedBeansBazar t1_ivr1q4w wrote
You were either voting for dictatorship or for democracy, the choice was clear.
ThatNewEnglandPerson t1_ivr1ulp wrote
LELANDYEE t1_ivr2b65 wrote
Also he's nuts. He thinks Sununu is a Chinese communist spy.
jake03583 t1_ivr3jwt wrote
Wanna know the really dumb part? I haven’t been a registered voter in NH since I moved to Florida in 2006. I couldn’t vote for or against him, yet he was sending me 7 emails a day.
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HowardNelsonJr t1_ivr4ow3 wrote
HELLO. Have you seen the price of heating oil? Seen the inflation stats? Paid for groceries? Wtf
manwhole t1_ivr4wo4 wrote
You sound like a qtard maniac.
LELANDYEE t1_ivr5kc2 wrote
HI. what makes you think a clearly deranged conspiracy theorist like Bolduc can fix this WORLDWIDE PROBLEM??
beepboopbeep1000 t1_ivr5w6e wrote
Hahahahaha oh that seems fitting for those Election FRAUD fighters.....
PtrWalnuts t1_ivr5xcl wrote
He’s pointing to his ass.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivr6i6u wrote
Bro didn't you know that Dark Brandon has been behind every world issue of the past two years? He's got the Russians and Saudis wrapped around his finger, the American people beneath his boot, the European union on a leash and is plotting with Xi to usher in global communism.
LELANDYEE t1_ivr6lss wrote
I feel so naive.
CoolAbdul t1_ivr6ogh wrote
Because she looks like the mean girl from Hey Arnold.
HowardNelsonJr t1_ivr6p2j wrote
By reversing the TERRIBLE POLICIES that were enacted by our POLITICIANS. (Which is the same thing that happened WORLDWIDE)
CoolAbdul t1_ivr6sf8 wrote
Settle down, Howie Carr.
CoolAbdul t1_ivr6wgt wrote
Oh Howard. Don't go away mad. Just go away
HowardNelsonJr t1_ivr72mm wrote
The FEC, every day on YouTube or any streaming service since the primaries (the ads), and the debates.
HowardNelsonJr t1_ivr74ta wrote
LELANDYEE t1_ivr752y wrote
LoL. Don is just going to magic more oil out of the ground, shrink the money supply and put the rain back in the clouds. Hes a barely coherent right wing lunatic with a very distant relationship to the truth. Hed be even more useless than tits on a bull.
Sweaty-Algae-6811 t1_ivr79a5 wrote
Always remember and never forget, if something didn't go The Donald's way, it was DEFINITELY someone else's fault.
CoolAbdul t1_ivr7aw7 wrote
This also explains Sununu's win.
HowardNelsonJr t1_ivr7d54 wrote
On day 1 the Biden admin stopped pulling oil out of the ground. Maggie hassan greenlit the spending that caused inflation. What about rain? Lol. Your mom is more useless than tits on a bull
CoolAbdul t1_ivr7fxg wrote
I saw Establishment Ass Muncher when they opened for Cradle of Filth back in 2018.
CoolAbdul t1_ivr7ka0 wrote
Not really these days. The rest of the country has gone crazy.
Stickyfynger t1_ivr86gc wrote
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivr8eba wrote
Holy shit, that's spot on lmao.
SunshneThWerewolf t1_ivratv7 wrote
Bolduc lost because he wipes back to front. It's a fact.
boxelder1230 t1_ivrav9a wrote
He’s the victim always. Hoaxes and witch hunts. Fuck trump! Soon he’ll be a bad memory and a embarrassment in our history books. What a LOSER
sistamaryclarence t1_ivrcvsd wrote
Facts on facts
plz1 t1_ivrda8a wrote
Take my angry upvote
Full-Magazine9739 t1_ivrf9s2 wrote
Keep listening to this loser GOP! As a Democrat, this is great!
NHGuy t1_ivrfeo9 wrote
mr0bungle t1_ivri42c wrote
And he doesn’t even kick the kitty litter off his paws before getting out of his litter box.
SunshneThWerewolf t1_ivri6jx wrote
He's a disaster.
wickedhip t1_ivricvi wrote
Huh, with the power of the internet I popped on over to whitehouse.gov and reviewed the actions Biden took on day one. Turns out he did not stop “pulling oil out of the ground”. Do yourself a favor and fact check this nonsense before you start throwing stupid shit like this out there.
NathanVfromPlus t1_ivrpc2n wrote
Did you really think it would be, though?
twosunsyzygy t1_ivrs6sz wrote
Election’s over. Please leave this subreddit.
pantinor t1_ivrtdfs wrote
I think it's because he couldn't respond clearly or correctly with his policy regards to the statements made in his opponents campaign ads.
JuggernautFabulous39 t1_ivrxz05 wrote
T-yranical R-epulsive U-ntrustworthy M-anipulating P-ervert
ADeuxMains t1_ivs2l5y wrote
He's a total drama queen.
Nukeashfield t1_ivs4t77 wrote
/r/conservative is a good read right now. They're scared. Really scared
maybetomorrow429 t1_ivs6z2u wrote
That’s just nasty 🤢
THE_GREAT_PICKLE t1_ivtztwi wrote
I always vote for the best person for the job. I’m strongly independent, I don’t care what party you’re in.
I voted for Hassan because Bolduc is a fucking lunatic. I don’t even like her but anything is better than having another loose cannon in charge.
lMickNastyl OP t1_ivu7l4z wrote
Isn't it sad that, that is such a common feeling nowadays.
Environmental-Job515 t1_ivvm6il wrote
“Trumpy Howler Monkeys” Take my upvote!
Rixtertech t1_ivvxa5b wrote
Credit where credit is due, like any good creative I stole it from https://www.reddit.com/user/dojijosu/
"Mediocre artists plagiarize. Great artists steal." - Picasso
PS: I hear Bolduc may find kitty litter has been dropped off in bulk every Halloween from now till eternity.
OldestPresidentEver t1_ivp8036 wrote
So people were behind him because he believed in election fraud, but then he changed his position and those people
A) voted against him?
B) didn't vote at all?
This makes no fucking sense. This guy is such a grifter.
Can anyone who changed position because he stopped promoting nonsense please explain how you voted and why? I'm genuinely curious if there's even a single person who falls in this camp.