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jlevnhv OP t1_jder546 wrote
The way I figure, if you get someone pregnant and get stuck here, you're a proper New Havener :)
Kbts87 t1_jdfaq7k wrote
Eww.
jlevnhv OP t1_jdg1fea wrote
Does it help that I also disgust myself
flyingfred1027 t1_jdg2w38 wrote
No
Kbts87 t1_jdg6bvo wrote
Agreed.
ApizzSavant t1_jdh7j0c wrote
Keep shining, king. They're probably a Yalie.
johnsonutah t1_jdf1pen wrote
Sorry but this blog is wayyy off - Yale students leave New Haven because there isn’t enough employment opportunity there and because the city isn’t really growing.
Most people go to school to prepare themselves for a career, and then they move to where the best opportunity exists. Unfortunately CT just doesn’t have nearly as much opportunity as say, NYC or Boston, and it’s just not growing like the south is (for example Charlotte NC).
New Haven is just stuck in the mud unfortunately, but I have high hopes for it in the long run given proximity to NYC
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vitalvisionary t1_jde7v9y wrote
As someone who has served food, drinks, delivering to classes, and dated a few Yalies, you definitely capture a vibe. With a lot of them, there's just this aura of superiority. Cambridge or Berkeley, you don't really get that same air of condescension. The theater or art kids are alright though.
catsmash t1_jdev4b5 wrote
the air of superiority is a feature, not a bug. yale works extremely hard from day one to embed this in undergrads. they're very much intended to leave yale feeling entirely separate from the average human. it's a technique intended, ultimately, to increase alumni donations.
edit: lol i'm not remotely kidding.
edit 2: yalies reading this like "no, -I- could NEVER have been emotionally deceived, i am FAR less susceptible to these cons than regular humans" lol
Goodbye_megaton t1_jdf94vc wrote
Yale has been cultivating this since they walled off the university from the city in the early 20th century. I remember hearing a rumor that freshman undergrads are told where not to go and while it’s obviously anecdotal it would not surprise me.
catsmash t1_jdfbiqm wrote
oh, they are. it's prevalent to the extent that a casual survey of undergrads some years ago (pre-pandemic) revealed that some absolutely insane percentage of them (like seventy, eighty) didn't realize new haven was on the water.
jlevnhv OP t1_jder6l8 wrote
Yeah a lot of them are fine its more like figuring out who is worth the effort
vitalvisionary t1_jdhmywa wrote
In my experience, they let you know pretty quick.
Sufficient_Mirror_12 t1_jdhid5l wrote
What - Harvard/Cambridge is way more stuck up than Yale/New Haven.
tito2014 t1_jdju1tg wrote
I don’t think so. I studied at Suffolk and Northeastern for a few years. Partied with some Harvard kids. I’ve lived in New Haven county my whole life otherwise. There are way more schools in the area such that Harvard and MIT don’t really get special treatment throughout the city. Like it or not, New Haven owes most, if not all, of what it is today to Yale which leads to the inflated entitlement of the student body.
vitalvisionary t1_jdhigwv wrote
Not in my experience but it's all subjective.
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Goodbye_megaton t1_jdf8wns wrote
Richer sure. More well-educated, definitely. Smarter? Don’t know about that one.
vitalvisionary t1_jdfmd0t wrote
They're very specialized. They know a lot about something very specific. A lot of them think that means they know about everything else. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect.
vitalvisionary t1_jdf982b wrote
We all have something to learn and something to teach. Also, money doesn't make you superior.
MardukX t1_jdfc1dp wrote
This happens at literally every college town. People move there for school and then move away for their first job. If there were more job opportunities for recent grads, they would stay. This isn't specific to Yale or the students who go there.
I met my wife at Yale in grad school. We loved and still love New Haven. Our programs took us to NYC for our final year of training, and we took our first jobs there because that's where the job opportunities were. A few years later, when we had more options, we quit those jobs to move back to CT because we love it here. No all transients are transient because they want to be...many are simply following opportunities.
Flavorful_Water t1_jdgk1h8 wrote
No. I’m a Yalie and while the main problem isn’t students moving out, the sheer sense of entitlement is annoying and definitely needs to get called out.
“Why do New Havenites hate us?” Most don’t but they also aren’t going to cater to your bullshit and give you special treatment just because you go to Yale. At the end of the day, we’re all just people living in the same city. Just because you live in the proximity as these people doesn’t mean you’re part of the community you constantly shit on on the Yale-only social media.
Don’t get me wrong. I love this university but the rich kid main character syndrome gets tiring fast.
Mistafishy125 t1_jdeo007 wrote
I dated a Yalie and she “kidnapped” me to Los Angeles lol. But we cannot both wait to go back to New England and I keep nudging New Haven… Half of her Yale friends settled there anyway.
MochaUnicorn369 t1_jdfchq4 wrote
Young professional adults are transient everywhere.
jlevnhv OP t1_jdfwj8e wrote
I actually heard son NPR once that kids who go to state schools are far more likely to settle down in-state.
montvilleredwood t1_jdgbjww wrote
Probably because the majority are from that state.
SleepAgainAgain t1_jdvrheh wrote
I used to live in Las Vegas. Most of the kids who went to college went to UNLV (4 yr) or the College of Southern Nevada (2 yr) or both.
Most of the kids were happy to stay where they grew up and went to college and it's got lots of jobs in the areas the colleges focus on (the colleges specialize in fields that have high local demand). It's really, really not surprising.
Yale imports students. Some stay, but they don't really have close ties to the area in the first place and the job market isn't especially enticing.
jlevnhv OP t1_jdwhk91 wrote
Totally makes sense and I get it. but I still have to tease them for Reasons
4times4equals12 t1_jde5w1h wrote
Good, let them leave.
Repulsive-Mousse-318 t1_jdfoeme wrote
Yeah maybe the problem is being 40 and dating college kids?
jlevnhv OP t1_jdfwc9h wrote
I'm speaking from a historical sense, heh. I first went out with a Yalie when I was like 29 years old.
Though Yale grad students and scientists come in a pretty wide variety of ages, and I was mostly talking about FRIENDSHIP
Kbts87 t1_jdg79ik wrote
And proposing that the only way to get them to stay is to get them pregnant. 🚩🚩🚩
catsmash t1_jdglu7j wrote
he was making a joke, jesus christ.
Kbts87 t1_jdgoku3 wrote
Explain the joke.
catsmash t1_jdgy4rw wrote
it’s a deliberately distasteful final suggestion directly juxtaposed with the preceding list of perfectly normal ideas, jokey self-effacement given that the article is exploring how it can feel to be perceived as a vulgar little townie by society’s upper echelons.
you don’t have to find it funny, but fully & repeatedly clutching your pearls over it on this post is just kind of dopey.
Kbts87 t1_jdiwbjm wrote
Listen, I have no problem with crass humor, but I just don't see how a 40 year old dude proposing that he get a 20 year old college student pregnant and baby trap her just to, what, prove a point, is funny, juxtaposition or not. Have you considered that there are some subjects that just aren't funny? Perhaps you should be more outraged. OP is writing about creepy, predatory behavior, and going "ha ha, it's a joke" doesn't change that fact. Sorry my principals ruined your sick comedy hour, but no one asked you to debate me. I'm allowed to be outraged just as you're allowed to have your own opinion, so kindly fuck off.
jlevnhv OP t1_jdjblo1 wrote
> 40 year old dude proposing that he get a 20 year old college student pregnant and baby trap her just to, what, prove a point, is funny, juxtaposition or not
I didn't even go to Yale.
Kbts87 t1_jdjf10q wrote
I didn't say you did.
catsmash t1_jdj6jc7 wrote
>I just don't see how a 40 year old dude proposing that he get a 20 year old college student pregnant and baby trap her just to, what, prove a point, is funny,
uhh, probably because that's not what he says at all. it's a suggestion he's making, jokingly, to the hypothetical yalie in question.
the exact quote: "Get out there. Visit a non-Yale bar. Attend a Night Market, or Arts & Ideas. Go hang out in Elm City Games. Get a membership to MakeHaven. Go to the beach. Get a townie pregnant. [emphasis mine] Visit the local Planned Parenthood!"
like, come on, dude. it's not even like i don't love righteous outrage, myself, but i'm also, like, VERY MUCH for taking the time to actually, you know, fucking read the thing i'm purporting to be outraged about before i start telling people to "kindly fuck off," lol.
Kbts87 t1_jdj758n wrote
The author is a male. Who is getting pregnant in his proposed scenario? Not him
catsmash t1_jdj7wzb wrote
yes, indeed: the joking advice, once again, in the quote YOU QUOTED YOURSELF in the link above: "GET A TOWNIE PREGNANT," and in the comment following, explaining that this would be making the fake yalie in question who completed this act a "REAL NEW HAVENER" because, implicitly, they WERE NOT ALREADY ONE.
he is NOT ANYWHERE HERE saying he has any interest in BABY TRAPPING ANYBODY, holy shit, this is ten thousand percent a thing you have made up in your head to be mad about.
edit: again - it was slightly distasteful! it was fully intended to be! but it is not, in any fucking remote capacity, "a 40 year old dude proposing that he get a 20 year old college student pregnant and baby trap her". it is objectively just not the thing you thought it was. you misread, and you were wrong. it's okay to be wrong about things sometimes, jesus christ.
Kbts87 t1_jdjedp6 wrote
Okay let's summarize. OP:
*Writes an article actively bashing college students half his age because they aren't more invested in the town he lives in.
*Writes in a comment that he has dated some of those students, but it's not creepy because at the time he was only one decade older than them rather than two. (Clearly those relationships ended well if he goes on to write an article saying how horrible his ex's college peers are.)
*Ends the article by suggesting pregnancy and possibly abortion as a fun pastime.
*States in another comment that if one were to become baby trapped it would boost the townie population.
But that's funny somehow? Got it. You win. I get it, we find different things funny. You're allowed your opinion and I'm allowed mine. Clearly we're not going to see eye to eye on this, so please just stop. No need for the caps lock shouting. Just walk away.
catsmash t1_jdjhbg6 wrote
nobody was in here arguing about "whether Kbts87 thinks this joke was funny". nobody, in fact, particularly cares whether Ktbs87 thinks it's funny.
what we WERE arguing about, up until you very abruptly veered entirely from it just now, was whether he was "a 40 year old dude proposing that he get a 20 year old college student pregnant and baby trap her," which you insisted he was. aaand he's not. you were wrong. the end. the rest of this shit never entered the conversation. well, bye!
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catsmash t1_jdjiqms wrote
so weird, it really was, and so was this in the comment immediately following that one:
***"***you don’t have to find it funny"
Kbts87 t1_jdjj4du wrote
And yet you felt the need to have this entire exchange about whether or not it was a joke. For someone who claims not to care if I find it funny, you've gone awfully out of your way trying to convince me it's a joke.
catsmash t1_jdjk6dh wrote
actually, super weird, i think you'll find that my concern, as repeatedly stated, was not and continues not to be whether you thought anything was funny, but was, and continues to be, based entirely around the fact that you were erroneously and repeatedly characterizing OP as some kind of predatory pervert targeting young women based entirely on your pretty severe misread of said joke, which is, hey, pretty fucked up of you, actually!
Kbts87 t1_jdjp01e wrote
I've made characterizations based on OPs written article and subsequent comments, which you're choosing to explain away, claiming it's a joke. You know, two things can be true at once right? If a misogynist makes sexist jokes, but prefaces everything with "guys it's a joke" would you still not call that individual a misogynist? Don't worry, that was rhetorical. No need to answer.
You're claiming I misread the joke. No. I just don't find it funny, and for some reason that really bothers you. But supposedly it doesn't. If it doesn't bother you, then stop commenting.
NobleOceanAlleyCat t1_jdh106v wrote
Lol I can’t tell if you just don’t like the joke or if you really can’t tell that he was joking. Lots of comedy involves role playing a moral idiot who gives awful advice or does awful things. Consider Always Sunny, for example.
tombuzz t1_jdh97u2 wrote
Explaining humor lol
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catsmash t1_jdhdbji wrote
they also just got the joke wrong in general - the suggestion wasn't knocking up yalies "to get them to stay," it was for yalies to get townies pregnant. this person's interpretation is, like, a deliberate misread to make it sound creepier.
Kbts87 t1_jdiyrhf wrote
There is a key difference between Always Sunny which has lots of audience understood character development, versus an author adding a creepy suggestion at the end of an article with no buildup. I fully understand the concept of juxtaposition, but OP could have just as easily proposed visiting the sanitation department or something similar while still having that contrasting shock value, but no, he chose to suggest baby trapping college students. What about that subject is funny?
NobleOceanAlleyCat t1_jdj7onp wrote
You’re right: he could have joked about something that does not personally trigger you. But he didn’t…Those of us who aren’t triggered by baby trapping can see that he was not making a serious recommendation. And we can see this while also recognizing the moral abhorrence of baby trapping. Your sensitivity to the subject has simply made you a bad interpreter of someone’s meaning.
And for the record, the Always Sunny characters were awful people from the very beginning and none of the character development is extenuating. Yet it’s still a funny show.
catsmash t1_jdj7405 wrote
damn, you didn't even actually read the article yourself, did you?
redtoken t1_jdevo5h wrote
Last line cinched it for me.
pyrrhicvictorylap t1_jdfc0ee wrote
Another banger, sir
buried_lede t1_jdea0kw wrote
How can you “love dearly” the guy who tickets you like Attila the Hun and whose clerks are elite maestros of the passive aggressive customer service phone call?
jlevnhv OP t1_jderanw wrote
Hahaha I mean... parking has to have rules right. Idk. He's a good dude, mostly. :P
ajpiko t1_jdhqho0 wrote
I don't fuck with yalies cause they're a bunch of fucking weirdos
EmotionalCorner t1_jdi48y0 wrote
This is assuming all townies stay and don’t go to elite schools either though..?
There’s definitely some pompous yalies, but the graduate students that live in my end of the community are pretty chill. Then again, they made a choice to live off campus and away from the campus.
jlevnhv OP t1_jdim3oj wrote
Its hard to make perfect sweeping generalizations but I do my best :-D
Specialist-Lion-8135 t1_jdh6j9j wrote
I effing love Yale and Yalies. They contribute to culture, civilization and the economy, making New Haven an interesting, diverse city in a state that values education for everyone with choices for every type of education. I know it’s an elitist school but the contributions of Yale benefit the world in a meaningful way and I am proud of that every time I hear something positive in the news.
AtheismTooStronk t1_jdhcl6f wrote
Yale has given us some of the most evil people ever to exist. I sure wish colleges were liberal indoctrination camps, because Yale and Harvard sure do seem to produce a fuck ton of fascists.
Specialist-Lion-8135 t1_jdhs8jh wrote
The formula for fascism begins with the singular desire to micromanage the world by any means possible. Stereotyping and labeling, fueled by contempt. What impels us to do this is fear. Fear of otherness. Losing ground. Paranoia. Language. You don’t need money, culture, religion or a certain education to be a fascist, just xenophobia.
It’s important to fight terrorism, censorship and violence, we must condemn hatred whenever see it, thus I speak to you. However, I urge you to resist wholesale contempt because then it won’t matter what you call yourself or what your goals are, you will become like them and the outcome will be the same. The methods make the results and the results are what matter most.
vitalvisionary t1_jdhmfil wrote
I think it's more a feature of being raised rich and privileged than the universities fault. Hell, my college was known for having spoiled brats as students but pushed diversity requirements for GE and every major separately. Still has racist fascists as graduates. Then again, most of the money the school gets is from donations to the petroleum engineering and business school and I don't know what their requirements are
EmuBoth t1_jdg0yo2 wrote
funny u write well hey on my end i dont f*ck with hotels streetscapes or business parks that constantly label themselves as At Yale. maybe i'll need to remove those signs one day
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It’s just some shitty overpriced place for rich folk to send their snotty brats to
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Kbts87 t1_jde6y0x wrote
"Get out there. Visit a non-Yale bar. Attend a Night Market, or Arts & Ideas. Go hang out in Elm City Games. Get a membership to MakeHaven. Go to the beach. Get a townie pregnant. Visit the local Planned Parenthood!"
Ummm. What? Since when is getting someone pregnant part of seeing the local scenery?