Winter lovers, do you think you will eventually move to a colder state?

Submitted by greengod210 t3_zzeg5g in newjersey

I am generally a four-seasons type of guy, and although I just signed a new apartment lease and started a new job a few months ago that does not allow remote work, I think I may be on my way out next year.

For lurkers who don’t live here, our winters lately are just not what they used to be, and I really miss snowball fights, sledding, and the feeling of the cold crisp air. We used to almost never have high temps above 40 degrees F unless it was a freak thing from December thru March.

Nowadays, we’ll get one or two week long cold snaps where the temps will be what they were all the time several years ago. The rest of the “winter,” high temps are in the 50s, 60s, and occasionally 70s every day, with heavy rain about half the time. I can’t understand why people celebrate this and are not sincerely worried. Why not move down south and save a heck of a lot of money if you want this type of weather rather than actual seasons? Jersey isn’t supposed to be like this, and it wasn’t until the past few years.

As I write this post, I am about to go outside in a flannel shirt and jeans with no jacket. My friend whom I’m going out with later is wearing a T-shirt and shorts and is not even cold, on December 30th.

I’m debating on actually leaving the state, even though I love everything else about it. It’s unfortunate, but I cannot control the weather. I can control where I live though. Anyone else thinking of doing the same thing?

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Surfiswhereufindit t1_j2bw971 wrote

Within 40 years, NJ will:

  1. Have a new coastline with the current going underwater for good.
  2. A region with the climate of North Carolina.
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mountainriver56 t1_j2cvq93 wrote

People don’t realize how quickly the Jersey shore towns are sinking.

It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out in my life, assuming dredging/structures will continually be made to try and stop the inevitable

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KayakHank t1_j2e56cb wrote

New bill commits 100 billion dollars of tax payers money for new higher sea wall.

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TheRacoonist t1_j2behzw wrote

Yes, we are currently looking at RI and VT as retirement options

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Army_of_blood t1_j2elpaf wrote

I’m also considering RI. But I also have like 40 years before I can considering retirement.

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IronSeagull t1_j2b4h43 wrote

I love winter, but I value the relationships I have in NJ too much to move.

There are also many reasons not to live in the south aside from the weather, which is way too hot in the summer. NJ is getting too hot in the summer, I hate waking up at 5:00 a.m. to run.

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greengod210 OP t1_j2b5mfw wrote

That’s my problem also. Everything I know is here. I have to decide whether I want to put distance between myself and those relationships to experience the winters I want, or to stay here and slowly accept the fact that any high temperatures below 50 degrees are going to be extremely rare from here on out. Neither of those is a pleasant scenario.

I don’t understand how people are celebrating this. I hope they like getting ravaged by mosquitoes as early as March, because that is what happens here now.

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StinkyCheeseMe t1_j2dzgnn wrote

Right? I want our true seasons back. I tight with this frigid snap we just had that it was going to be the start of a beautiful Winter. Hopefully it still is but now it’s foggy and warm. Too many folks in Jersey are happily cheering on the warmth this time of year. It’s not okay.

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s55555s t1_j2bfkfn wrote

Not a winter lover so I’m enjoying this very concerning turn of weather as I hate shoveling and have conditions that flare in the cold. You’re right it is not ok but I am enjoying it anyhow.

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hariboho t1_j2dib36 wrote

This is how I feel. It’s a terrible sign and all kinds of wrong, but the little bits of winter we do get are enough for me.

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kiLLxander t1_j2cbacl wrote

If I do it’s the PNW or coastal New England

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Ratfink0521 t1_j2dh311 wrote

Keep in mind that the wildfires in the PNW have gotten worse every year. My best friend is from Portland and she had to invest in heavy duty air purifiers to handle the smoke throughout fire season.

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kiLLxander t1_j2e027u wrote

Really? It’s wet half of the year.

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Troooper0987 t1_j2e39dg wrote

GF's family is from the Seattle area, theyve had bad droughts and heatwaves the past few years, they dont even have AC in their houses.

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grand_speckle t1_j2cdbjm wrote

Yeah as a cooler weather lover I’ve been thinking about this for a while now actually. The weather is one among a few reasons why one day soonish I will most likely end up moving.

There will definitely be stuff I miss about NJ (mainly some friends and family) but I’m ready for a change in scenery , both literally and figuratively

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Bslushpuppy t1_j2db20z wrote

Sadly, it’s not much better in certain more northern areas as well. For example, Ithaca. Ew York is having highs of 50s this week. Climate change is slowly warming up even the coldest areas.

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PlumbCrazyRefer t1_j2blawt wrote

Ya I’m looking at Aruba so I can be miserable in the winter with white sand and warm sun and clear water

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RivChk t1_j2d7ag8 wrote

Many of my friends and acquaintances have retired to Florida or the Carolinas. Not for me! My focus is north….New Hampshire or Coastal Maine.

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Ratfink0521 t1_j2dgw9w wrote

My goal is retiring in upstate NY. I feel like where we’ll be in our climate catastrophe at that point, that’ll be the area with the best mix of weather.

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thefudd t1_j2dkc9j wrote

I would like permanent fall

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greengod210 OP t1_j2dnyx7 wrote

We don’t have permanent fall, but we basically have fall from November/December thru end of March before going back to heat.

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Jimmytowne t1_j2dnxpb wrote

My brother in North Dakota probably wishes it would get above -40 so he can shovel.

Harsh winters with no remote work option means financial struggles in the way of increased car maintenance, increased utility bills, more time for commuting and general shopping. Shipping delays.

And the upper north of the US typically have less money for snow clearing and pot hole fixing. They just shut down the economy until the sun comes out.

Instead of moving, maybe take a winter vacation to Maine or Colorado.

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Retiredpotato294 t1_j2dpoti wrote

I lived in south Jersey until I was 50, then moved to southeast Wyoming. The wind chill the other day was -43 when I got up. I always wanted to live in real winter and near mountains..I haven’t regretted it for a second and I look around in awe at my surroundings literally every day. The only downside is how hard it is to find good ethnic food. I went from the suburbs in NJ to raising my own cow which is now in my freezer, fishing for trout the size of my lower leg 15 minutes from my house and hiking all over without seeing another person unless I want to. Absolutely love it.

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eat_your_brains t1_j2eltu6 wrote

There's a top notch Indian restaurant at a truck stop in Laramie. If you're anywhere near there, it's absolutely worth the trip.

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Retiredpotato294 t1_j2epsf5 wrote

They have a place in town now, Buffalo Indian. But coming from NJ I was used to every ethnicity of food available with multiple options. The Chinese food here is terrible.

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StNic54 t1_j2c3hip wrote

Just moved up from Florida, and I’m happy to have real seasons after 14 years of sweating in South Fla.

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Meem-Thief t1_j2cj0y5 wrote

wouldn't be another state, I'd be going to Canada

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Surfiswhereufindit t1_j2d6xnm wrote

Get there while Americans are still welcome, let alone not tagged with the status of refugee or asylum seeker (topics for a different Reddit post I know).

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ShadowSwipe t1_j2cqh7t wrote

I've thought about moving North a few times. The climate here is only going to get warmer and warmer. And prices are only going up. Not sure where, but one day, I won't be living here.

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phattsrules t1_j2dx857 wrote

Cold winter is now from mid January to mid March. Just wait. You’ll get the cold you want.

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calcaneus t1_j2eec37 wrote

Yes. I lived in Michigan for a while and may go back there, although I've been considering Vermont lately as well. Just a matter of timing, really.

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Spade18 t1_j2dxee4 wrote

I miss playing pond hockey in the winter =/

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felipe_the_dog t1_j2dyelh wrote

It feels like winter hasn't disappeared it's just shifted a bit to start and end a month later than it used to.

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Administrative_Elk66 t1_j2ep6fr wrote

I have a requirement of four distinct seasons, but with chronic pain, deep winter is hard for me. Still, I'm looking at Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, or Michigan as possible places to live in the future.

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sig40cal t1_j2f96mz wrote

I did twice, moved to VT right out of high school and to CO in my mid twenties, loved both.

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LargeWooWoo t1_j2bdj3b wrote

No, and you sound a bit silly.

Edit it was literally freezing all last week?? Even into the single digits ???? Also we’re only ten days into the season?

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katsock t1_j2civv2 wrote

It was basically a chilly spring day today if even that. 60 degrees on a December afternoon. And a week before we had frozen pipes and power outages.

It’s not that it was or wasn’t freezing. It’s that it was 50 degrees in the same 24 hours and we had people on this sub with a windchill under -10. And a week later we are in shorts with the windows down. I shut my heat off today and had to open the windows. That’s bonkers

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synndiezel t1_j2dmodl wrote

Dude, we don't even really get snow or cold weather we'll until January anymore. Used to be that it would be about 30 by now. If you haven't noticed in the last few years that winter just kinda hits in January and February, I don't know what to tell you. This year's was the coldest Christmas I can remember in over 6 years.

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mountainriver56 t1_j2cvsbk wrote

It was only a few days, and it wasn’t even that cold, relative to cold stretches in like the cold states being discussed.

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LargeWooWoo t1_j2dbi43 wrote

90% of the country was in sub freezing temps last week, and i was working outside at night — trust me it was cold.

it’s just a warm front passing through, it’s the end tail of our rainy season.

I’m not a climate change denier by any means , we have had some mild winters but I think it’s a bit too early in the season to say it won’t be cold this winter.

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mountainriver56 t1_j2fjoun wrote

Yea I mean I moved to montana so being home for the holidays it wasn’t cold lol. That’s my point, compared to the actual cold states in the northeast and Midwest, that few day cold stretch was not bad for the extreme cold in the winter.

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nancymeadows242 t1_j2dh5r5 wrote

You ask a lot of questions?? 3 questions in a row??? In one post?

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LargeWooWoo t1_j2do55g wrote

Thanks for picking up on those big grammar cues, congrats on the 4th grade reading comprehension and analysis.

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