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Reply to comment by ElectroFlannelGore in Police: Husband shoots and kills wife in Monroeville, dies by apparent suicide after SWAT standoff by BecuzMDsaid
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IceColdTear t1_j9w6ypj wrote
Nah, probably a domestic abuser. She probably tried to leave and he killed her. The riskiest time to a womans life is when she tries to leave a domestic abuse situation. 3-4 women per day in the US are killed by male domestic violence.
masterofshadows t1_j9w8f9k wrote
I won't dispute that. Both are certainly emotionally charged events and I can't find any statistics that break down the causes of IPH (intimate Partner Homicide).
TooGood2beDrew t1_j9wakj0 wrote
The causes are insecure and violent male partners. Nothing a female spouse does should result in her murder.
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-Diorama- t1_j9wirdo wrote
You already admitted you don’t have any evidence to back this claim up. You said “probably infidelity” implying that the wife drove the husband to this by an immoral act. That’s not “discussing triggering behaviors” that’s assuming that she cheated with zero evidence.
masterofshadows t1_j9wj2wv wrote
People like you who see accusations when there are none are exhausting. Have a good night.
-Diorama- t1_j9wjqzp wrote
Do you understand though why people are downvoting and replying to you in this way?
The person you replied to asked “why did this happen?”
You replied “probably infidelity.” Which is the same as saying “probably something SHE did to HIM that caused this.”
You don’t know that it was infidelity- but you said it was probable that it was infidelity despite lack of evidence.
These are the issues with your comment.
masterofshadows t1_j9wkfro wrote
And others immediately jumped to pre-existing domestic violence and her leaving. Both are equally without proof. Both are possible. But your automatic assumption that I have some kind of issue with women is problematic and I will not sit by and be slandered. This will be my last reply as this is not a productive conversation. Good night.
IntricateSunlight t1_j9ynsvn wrote
Even if it was infidelity on her part it doesn't excuse taking someone's life. Even if your partner cheats on you it doesn't mean you can just kill them. Domestic abuse or infidelity its still just as bad to kill someone.
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IceColdTear t1_j9wct87 wrote
Leaving is the most dangerous time for women and the time she is most likely to be murdered. However, the biggest indicator that she will be killed by her male partner is prior instances involving strangulation.
b_needs_a_cookie t1_j9vzha7 wrote
Or he could be an abusive piece of shit and she said she's done, which is more often the case
No_Match_7939 t1_j9vvau6 wrote
Your gonna get a lot of hate here but man being cheated on can make your react very terrible. Maybe these guns escalate something that should have been at worst am argument
impy695 t1_j9vzcti wrote
Why would they get hate for saying infidelity could be the cause of violence? While rational and well adjusted people won't resort to violence, I don't think anyone would argue that it's not a very emotionally charged situation with a lot of anger.
Hell, I got into an argument once on reddit with someone who said it's normal and common for people to get violent after being cheated on.
Valyrian_Kobolds t1_j9wb9fk wrote
I think the gut reaction to blame the murdered woman is the thing to be disgusted at here.
masterofshadows t1_j9wd0th wrote
It doesn't have to be her who cheated. He could have been the cheater and got caught. It's just an emotionally charged time that leads violent people to be violent
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TangoZulu t1_j9w0oex wrote
Because gun nuts like to pretend that all "responsible" gun owners have iron-clad mental abilities and emotional control. It runs counter to their objective to admit that a legal gun owner could lose it in a moment of distress and use his legal firearm to murder someone.
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impy695 t1_j9w1r1d wrote
There is a big step between this:
> I mean arguably it is normal by virtue of being common that people become irrational and unconsolably emotional
And this:
> and yes even violent
Most people don't become violent even when they become irrationally angry. People that do, need some form of anger management. Violence in response to cheating is not common or normal, even though irrational anger is common and normal.
ElectroFlannelGore t1_j9w5yua wrote
>Most people don't become violent even when they become irrationally angry.
I'll have to find some stats on that
>People that do, need some form of anger management.
No disagreement here. I work with addicts. Lots of them out of prison or fresh from anger management classes.
>Violence in response to cheating is not common or normal, even though irrational anger is common and normal.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/56a7/e2b8f13215977c181fa691aab6265f19b93e.pdf
I dunno man. Searching "infidelity intimate partner violence" makes it seem pretty common. I mean as far as causes of intimate partner violence.
impy695 t1_j9w7vn8 wrote
If you search for cases where cheating lead to violence, you're going to find a lot, but what you won't find is the vast majority that aren't newsworthy because no one goes crazy.
masterofshadows t1_j9x3jl3 wrote
They literally linked you to a scholarly research paper on it. No not everyone who gets cheated on gets violent. But amongst the subset of people prone to violence, infidelity can be a major trigger for a violent act.
impy695 t1_j9x4d57 wrote
Yeah, it doesn't have anything to do with the point they're trying to make.
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