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kensaundm31 t1_j36xs3m wrote

Last time this happened the cartels forced them to give him back.

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Jokerzrival t1_j36z09z wrote

There's some possibilities he's already in U.S. custody. He got transported to Mexico city and then a U.S. air force plane landed then took off right away and landed back in the U.S.

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Jokerzrival t1_j3733z7 wrote

Probably a show of force. Lots of bloodshed but then like with the dad they'll go back to usual business

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sjfiuauqadfj t1_j37aq19 wrote

theyre threatening to set fire to public infrastructure and have a free for all against civilians and police. about half a year ago the cartels did something similar in tijuana but it got shut down in a week or two because the mexican military can take care of business if theyre allowed to

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GoChaca t1_j37wxh8 wrote

A few months ago, I was supposed to go to Baja beach fest in Baja but had to cancel last second because the cartels were terrorizing. The area. It’s horrific that this is becoming a common thing.

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SaborW t1_j37nb5i wrote

I wouldn't trust the Mexican military to really do anything to drug cartels, not in any substantial way. From my understanding all the MPs of all the branches got rolled into the National Guard and act as a national police force/Federal police force, and they've been accused of quite a bit of human rights violations. Migrant abuse, forced disappearances, arresting people for just any old reason, extortion and having ties to organized crime. The former defense minister of Mexico, a 4 star Army general, was also arrested in the US for drug trafficking, and that was after the former head of the federal police force was arrested for the same thing. They sound like a state sanctioned drug cartel themselves at this point

Now the Mexican Marines, I can get behind those guys. As far as I know they're far more reputable and on the up and up

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gay-dragon t1_j38v6fl wrote

This is just hearsay, but the Mexican Navy/Marines are considered less compromised than the army or police are.

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PicklerOfTheSwamp t1_j3a1zor wrote

From what I hear, they will rip you out of your truck and slit your throat! Then pose for pictures with some heads. Gotta fight evil with evil sometimes!

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alexa42 t1_j3a3chu wrote

Oh cool. I just in time for my vacation

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TurboSalsa t1_j38ce56 wrote

What kind of shitstorm would ensue if the cartels shot down a USAF plane?

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Jokerzrival t1_j38gjjw wrote

Welcome mexico the 51st state!

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TurboSalsa t1_j38jk3q wrote

Operation Iraqi Mexican Freedom

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Jokerzrival t1_j38jqys wrote

"corporal can we make the "I" look like an M?"

"YES SIR but it's gonna look a little wonky"

"Excellent let's do it"

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tmoney144 t1_j39fbgj wrote

Well, the last time we took half of Mexico, we turned into like 4 and a half states. So more like welcome states 51 through 55.

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thepeopleshero t1_j38ftce wrote

The whole shitstorm I presume.

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Kohpad t1_j38h14f wrote

Forecasting shows a Cat5 shit storm, well called.

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PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD t1_j38z22c wrote

One things for sure, their internet connections will be flawless with all those cables laying around afterwards.

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getBusyChild t1_j39i1ki wrote

The Cartels would be signing their own death warrant. In the early 90's(?) a Cartel tortured to death a DEA agent, they were wiped out not only by US law enforcement but other Cartels as they knew what NOT to do. And were more than willing to show they had nothing to do with the murder.

Now imagine if they even took a shot at say Biden, or any US Military force.

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mattw08 t1_j39xpk4 wrote

Every other cartel would be pumped. Easy way to take out your rivals.

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felis_magnetus t1_j3abts2 wrote

So what you're saying is that somewhere in Mexico, right now, members of several cartels are thinking hard how to do a false flag operation and get away with it?

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fiordchan t1_j39b3sb wrote

They would get some Freedom coming their way real fast

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Sammy-Overlock t1_j3ddghe wrote

The drug narcos, despite the fact that they have weapons, do not have a manpad, if they have rpg 7

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misterfistyersister t1_j39bajr wrote

Biden is in Mexico City this weekend. That’s likely the reason.

Mexico has already said they’re not extraditing yet.

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Beard_o_Bees t1_j37t9ug wrote

Let's hope that those attempting to bring him to any kind of real justice have a better plan than the last time.

Let's also hope that innocent civilians aren't hurt or killed in the ensuing violence.

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Jokerzrival t1_j37wshf wrote

He may already be in U.S. custody. a U.S. air force plane landed in Mexico city around the time the son was taken there. Then left and returned to the U.S. rumors are they picked up the son

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Hard2Handl t1_j39agnm wrote

El Presidente Biden arrives Monday in Mexico City.

Title 42 is a football 🏈 ⚽️ for both nations.

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KStarSparkleDust t1_j38470i wrote

CNN reporting 29 people died during the arrest process. 8 officials, and the rest cartel members.

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KStarSparkleDust t1_j384y5w wrote

AP reporting that the cartel was able to “force down” two military aircraft. They then began shooting up the airport, “fixed wing” aircraft, and 1 civilian plane in an attempt to prevent this guy from being flown out of the city.

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RamTank t1_j39690f wrote

Saw on another thread 2 trainers took light damage from small arms fire and returned to the airfield. They'd been used to conduct attack runs on cartel forces.

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Tellyourmomisaidthx t1_j38frlb wrote

Seems like them raising their army makes it awfully more susceptible to being wiped out... I could live with that

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rreyes1988 t1_j39an43 wrote

>show a poor kid a couple bucks to feed his family and you got another soldier

Or, you know, skin them alive if they refuse to fight for you

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UnlawfulStupid t1_j39kagq wrote

Why bother when they have all the willing recruits they could ever use? It would only hurt them to start conscripting and torturing their own people.

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pheisenberg t1_j3c6wjd wrote

I suspect a fair amount of that happens. You can also ask whether US-style long trials with a zillion ways for rich defendants to get off are really “due” for a country riddled with organized crime.

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KStarSparkleDust t1_j385nf1 wrote

Multiple sources reporting this is a “gift” to Biden, days ahead of his Mexico City visit. This allegedly demonstrates that the President of Mexico is “in control” of Mexico.

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riptide81 t1_j39wo8b wrote

The trip doesn’t seem like the best idea now without time for the dust to settle.

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MyCouchPullsOat t1_j3a40qc wrote

Which ones are saying that? I’ve searched and can’t find anything to back this up

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KStarSparkleDust t1_j3avf76 wrote

https://apnews.com/article/politics-united-states-government-mexico-drug-crimes-city-d74ba460138c067ca538c862e3f0a5b0

From the article: Samuel González, who founded Mexico’s special prosecutor’s office for organized crime in the 1990s, said Guzmán’s capture was a “gift” ahead of Biden’s visit. The Mexican government “is working to have a calm visit,” he said.

Edit: and another one https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/06/americas/el-chapo-son-arrest-mexico-prison-intl/index.html

Capturing Guzmán could be a way for López Obrador to show the US that he is "in control of the armed forces and Mexico's security situation," Gladys McCormick, a associate professor at Syracuse University who focuses on Mexico-US relations, told CNN in an email.

Edit: a 3rd source https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/05/world/americas/el-chapo-son-ovidio-guzman-mexico.html

It also provided the government a public relations win days before Mr. López Obrador is set to host President Biden and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada at a North American Leaders Summit in Mexico City.

Here’s a 4th source. It doesn’t spell it out as bluntly. This article probably requires some critical reading skills. It talks about the USA’s interest in capturing him. Talks about the previous release. Then goes on to talk about how the President of Mexico wont look like he’s “weak” on the cartels to other “governments”. Does not mention Biden by name as part of the other “government”. Does state that this event is occurring days before the summit that Biden will attend.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexicos-culiacan-suffers-night-violence-with-gunfire-blockades-2023-01-05/

I’m unsure why you would be having trouble finding this. I Googled “El Chapo son” and several pages of articles came up.

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Torifyme12 t1_j3bqtsl wrote

Rule of thumb if your military loses a fight against a gang, there's structural problems you're no longer able to solve on your own.

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Ehellegreg t1_j396e4k wrote

The Canadian government issued an advisory to Canadians in Sinaloa to shelter in place.

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nifealmudxh04 t1_j38dn6x wrote

How am I only hearing about this on Reddit

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Asbew OP t1_j38dr4g wrote

I've seen a lot of it on TikTok, that was how I originally found out about it

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o--_-_--o t1_j38jf4p wrote

Ah yes TikTok the bastion of journalistic integrity

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OmegaJakk t1_j38vtfd wrote

Not reporting from TikTok but actual live footage of events unfolding in Sinaloa by civilians.

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Fermats_Last_Account t1_j38xcco wrote

You redditors need to get your high ass of the horse. TikTok contains hundreds of videos that have nothing to do with teenagers or dancing.

Many videos on science, computers, etc. and that also includes videos of people who witness events firsthand.

I swear you people need to get out of your basement more.

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WEEGEMAN t1_j3bsgvx wrote

My company sent an alert about it. Boarder is in chaos. No deliveries are coming through.

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fiordchan t1_j39b97t wrote

Anybody saying it is safe to travel to Mexico is really in denial

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didsomebodysaymyname t1_j3a5egw wrote

There are small areas that are safe to visit, usually tourist spots, but I'm not about to book a weekend in Sinaloa.

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Ok-Appearance-866 t1_j3ajitl wrote

The cartels basically run Mexico. So sad. It's a beautiful country with a rich and vibrant culture.

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Jman50k t1_j38kzy0 wrote

He’s the king of the trap, El Chapo Guzman

Any where on the map he’ll bring it to ya.

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frpeighty3 t1_j3ar0gg wrote

I belive he's not allowed to be extradited to the U.S per a judges order in Mexico. Mexican government officials are corrupted like a mother,,,,,

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pbnoj t1_j3cobv8 wrote

El Neto (mentioned in the article) was the heavy guy in Narcos Mexico, yeah? Crazy they tried to get him out of jail after all these years

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ApplicationConnect55 t1_j4twa2y wrote

Only a corrupt government would allow the cartels to be the government. I go back to the days when the Gulfos and the Mexican government were the only two cartels.

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dimbulb771 t1_j3a8ph5 wrote

The Mexican army should go house to house. Cartels, enablers and collaborators. No quarter and no mercy until this shit is done.

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