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GetlostMaps t1_j2xjwn8 wrote

I thought bank robberies were finished. They basically don't happen here any more. Not for decades. What is different in their system?

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Viruzedd t1_j2xpezt wrote

In addition, the text could have said "one ship will dock in Denmark in 2022." How would they be able to raid the banks if there are no banks with deposits? Man cannot know what cannot be found.

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Dark_Styx t1_j2xzeg5 wrote

Replying to GetlostMaps (#1,279,996)

Media barely reports on "small" bank robberies, because it's 1) not really interesting and 2) invites more bank robberies. Most bank robberies aren't armed and masked men breaking into the bank shooting wildly, it's someone telling the teller to give them money and the teller complies, because it's policy and they don't want to risk it coming to the first example with the guns and all.

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Warpzit t1_j2y5uyx wrote

Because the real robbers is sitting inside the bank.

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epil33 t1_j2y8sz5 wrote

Future is finally looking up eh?

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vjx99 t1_j2y9rof wrote

No wonder, no Danish people would still enter a bank physically.

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j4ckbauer t1_j2ycvbd wrote

Replying to Dark_Styx (#1,280,679)

Yes, and because this is the least-effective (amount stolen) and most-risky way to steal money from a bank, it doesn't severely impact the banks themselves.

I'm skeptical about your point #2 that the news media has a social conscience, but, maybe.... :)

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port53 t1_j2ycx85 wrote

Replying to Dark_Styx (#1,280,679)

We had one like that here this past week. Guy walks in, hands a note that says give me money, they give him some money and he walks out. Cops picked him up later that day, nobody got hurt.

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KDamage t1_j2ydmp7 wrote

Suddenly Streisand effect

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Dark_Styx t1_j2ygzsz wrote

Replying to j4ckbauer (#1,281,274)

It isn't very risky as far as I'm aware, first time robbers generally aren't caught unless they try again. It also doesn't even impact the banks if a lot is stolen, because everything is insured anyway.

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anonk1k12s3 t1_j2yip31 wrote

Next news article will be, staff if Danish bank distraught after losing their jobs due to irrelevancy

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McDaddyos t1_j2ylugd wrote

Is that really a nottheonion title?

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Fredzzzz t1_j2yp1b6 wrote

We'll... In 2015 the biggest danish bank accepted forged documents and payed this guy (the owner Sanjay at 6:41) €1.7 billion back in dividend taxes. A couple of months ago a book came out that revealed how they have not changed the control procedures for this. It's nice that that the employees are not endangered, but I'm sure they (and by extension the taxpayers) are getting robbed plenty.

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HoppityHooper t1_j2yvki6 wrote

They received a series of plaques to mark the occassion. And what did they do with them? Stick em' up!

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joj1205 t1_j2yxwd0 wrote

We really should be robbing the banks. They are the worst human invention since they added lead to gas

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nullenatr t1_j2z2nia wrote

Replying to Fredzzzz (#1,281,829)

>A couple of months ago a book came out that revealed how they have not changed the control procedures for this.

That's not true. I have done something slightly related at work, which required me to contact the tax authorities to request something similar to what they did with the dividend taxes. The current wait time (12 months) has been postponed by 9 months twice because they're revising their systems and presumably doing everything manually now. When I obviously sounded dumbfounded on the phone, they explained it was because of that case.

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LittleKitty235 t1_j2z4h3l wrote

Replying to Dark_Styx (#1,281,457)

In the US anyway banks remain one of the riskiest places to rob. Not only are banks completely covered in cameras, but robbing them is a federal crime. A lot more resources will be diverted to finding you than a normal robbery that might only involve the local police.

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Zachosrias t1_j2z6adv wrote

Which is why the robbers have also gone digital, take for example Britta Nielsen and Sanjay Shah

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Electronic_Permit300 t1_j2z9m4c wrote

In the Bronx I remember on the news they celebrated no murders for one whole day! But early the next day, the streak was broken.

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lcl1qp1 t1_j2za391 wrote

It's a lot easier to have nice things when you don't have a raging gun epidemic.

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tastelessshark t1_j2zdi9o wrote

How common are bank robberies in general? It's such a stereotypical crime, but I don't often hear about actual modern bank robberies. I imagine the risk to reward is very low given how little cash banks typically have on hand.

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dontoofme t1_j2zekc3 wrote

Replying to Jazzy76dk (#1,282,920)

That’s not true. We may have the lowest rate of corruption compared to other countries, but we still have a lot of corruption. Politicians have been caught with their tax frauds in more than one instance.

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sometimes_interested t1_j2zh08i wrote

Replying to GetlostMaps (#1,279,996)

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted so much. Maybe it depends on the country. In Australia, nearly all bank branches have the tellers behind either pop up metal screens or bulletproof glass, so it's basically impossible to rob them at gun point. If someone wants cash fast, they have to rob a bottle shop or petrol station to have a chance of getting a cash payout.

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NotBettyGrable t1_j2zk95k wrote

Replying to vrenak (#1,282,470)

Canada has joined the conversation. It's pretty unfortunate for remote communities here. It can be very far to the next town. All these branch closure decision coming to you from people in Toronto who have never been anywhere else in Canada.

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plaid_piper34 t1_j2zorpp wrote

Replying to tastelessshark (#1,282,957)

There are reports that adjusting for inflation, bank robbers make less from each robbery.

In the 1960’s in the US the average bank robbery got close to $38k, in 2019 dollars. Today, most bank robberies net around $4-$5k in 2019 dollars- or about two/four paychecks for most middle class jobs. Source: https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/crimes-no-longer-pay-trend-shows-bank-robberies-decline-shift-cashless-economy/

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Confused_AF_Help t1_j2zqdzc wrote

Replying to dontoofme (#1,283,034)

I'm pretty sure those 'clean' nations are just better at covering up their corruption. When you have a team of first class lawyers, accountants and advisors, it's easy to hide your tracks. Meanwhile poorer countries' corruption crimes are just sloppy or too brazen

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Secret_Brush2556 t1_j2zzko2 wrote

Probably more money to be made by stealing catalytic converters than by robbing banks

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msmilah t1_j30lb7v wrote

Wait, it’s cause they went cashless… Why did they have so many robberies anyway? I thought their country was doing everything we’re doing wrong, right. Should we be having even more bank robberies then? This is getting confusing. No wonder we can’t fix America.

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EmilyU1F984 t1_j30tpd5 wrote

Replying to tastelessshark (#1,282,957)

Yea exactly, bank robberies have massively dropped.

Don‘t think you’d even be able to walk out with 5 digit figures at a random German bank, unless you go for the major cash handling ones… which have the appropriate security anyway.

Also that cash is also not in the open. Deposits get dropped in a safe, the safe cannot just be accessed by the random clerks working.

So you either have to call in a withdrawal to make them have cash on hand, or rob them exactly when some business is depositing their weekly cash proceedings..

And that‘s in Germany, which is still massive on cash compared to virtually all our neighbours.

But really, bank robberies were hardly worth it when you could get away with 6 figures. They definetely aren’t worth it now.

You‘ll do better just robbing any random store used by the elderly and taking the 1k they‘ll have in their till in the late afternoon I reckon.

Plus much more crime is credit card/fraud based. Much lower risk, much lower punishments.

To just rob a random small town bank, you’d have to be extreeeeemely desperate and dumb.

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BobbyLeeBob t1_j30z83t wrote

Replying to LittleKitty235 (#1,282,492)

Especially Danske Bank which loves white washing Russian money, blaming teenagers, getting lots of welfare from the government etc. You know if a bank has a country name in it like Deutsche bank, bank of America or danske bank. MOVE ON OR GET OUT!

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CDalberg t1_j311wxm wrote

They don’t have cash in the Banks anymore. Denmark is almost totally cashless society.

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vrenak t1_j315w9v wrote

Replying to NotBettyGrable (#1,283,317)

When our post offices began closing years ago, they started, especially in smaller villages to have the local grocery store have a limited hours service desk for postal services, maybe they should look into that kind of deal, especially for a country like Canada, the more remote areas could be hours away, or completely inaccessible for the elderly, even just a few hours a couple of days could mean the world.

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cgknight1 t1_j316ozu wrote

Replying to MatthewBakke (#1,283,446)

Americans seems highly resistant to the cashless society and also the country lacks the types of banking regulations you see elsewhere that have enabled the transition (for example - card fees are capped at 0.5% in the EU for businesses) so that does not surprise me. Another example is that in most places in europe, cashapps are not a thing because transfers between banks are free, instant and safe.

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TiredFromTravel5280 t1_j31chwo wrote

I had no clue bank robberies are still such a big problem in the west. Or is it just a Danish thing?

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Horace_The_Mute t1_j31eune wrote

Honestly, it’s surprising Denmark HAD bank robberies. Who robs banks anymore?

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okiedog- t1_j31f9w9 wrote

They probably mean the first year without people robbing the banks.

Now let’s get a year without the banks robbing people.

THAT would be something to celebrate.

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chuchofreeman t1_j31gd01 wrote

What's the penalty for bank robberies there? If all Danish prisons are how they're shown on the internet I guess it's a "good" deal to try to rob a bank there, isn't it?

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Caraway417 t1_j31osip wrote

Guys, the thermal drill… go get it.

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EmweDK t1_j322q36 wrote

Replying to BGM1524 (#1,282,616)

It's a famous line from Shakespeare - and as others have said, Denmarks probably one of the least corrupted countries in the world - though .. probably still fairly corrupt

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NotBettyGrable t1_j3244gr wrote

Replying to MatthewBakke (#1,283,446)

We only have a few banks in Canada and they are billion dollar a quarter behemoths with no real competition, much like our media companies. They have gala dinners with all the important political people so I don't think that is going to change anytime soon. There are credit unions as an alternative but there are trade offs to using them, for the average person it probably has more to do with the marketing reach of the big banks, to be honest.

The crazy thing is, they want to close branches but still want you to come in for high touch service so they can try to sell you stuff. Like I was trying to transfer money in from another bank and they wanted me to come in to discuss. They have two different agendas that conflict at the moment.

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NotBettyGrable t1_j32665a wrote

Replying to vrenak (#1,286,084)

Postal banking would be great for the average Canadian but it costs a lot of money to run a political party and the fancy people who own everything and the ones who run for office go to the same gala dinners.

That may sound like conspiracy but it's just the gross way major companies operate in Canada. We pay crazy high phone bills and bank fees and internet. We have a few major companies selling each of those and their markets are protected.

We have a few major grocery stores. They apparently fixed the price of bread for 14-16 years. So far the biggest consequence has been a $25 gift certificate from one of the companies involved. I think you have to give up your right to sue, though.

Anyways, in my opinion we support these totally not capitalist entities with protection legislation and we don't really help smaller companies trying to innovate in actual competitive environments. It is perverse.

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NotBettyGrable t1_j3269th wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,287,532)

All the seniors I know bank almost exclusively in person.

Also your "one or two branches" in each province assertion is demonstrably false. If you aren't from rural Canada you might not be aware that you don't have 6 different banks and a credit union in town. Many towns have one bank. Despite totally capturing the banking for that area, the customer loyalty is zero.

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vrenak t1_j32acf3 wrote

Replying to NotBettyGrable (#1,287,634)

Maybe smaller canadian communities should look into banding together to set up some form of service company, not to make a profit, just owned by hundreds of little towns and villages, pay into it by the head, own it by the head, and then just let them provide internet, tv, phone, banking services, etc. At just enough above cost to save up for future investments, and just price the competition out of the market they don't want to serve anyways. And locals can vote on how much they want to subsidise themselves to get better service.

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NotBettyGrable t1_j32bbwe wrote

Replying to vrenak (#1,287,829)

Well we have credit unions which fit the bill. I'm not sure why they aren't more popular. Advertising spaces in Canada, of all sorts, are just plastered with the big banks. Free iPad if you open an account type of things. I suspect it works, but am not sure.

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BGM1524 t1_j32bok4 wrote

Replying to EmweDK (#1,287,447)

Finally someone not completely ignorant. Most danes will go "There's no corruption in Denmark". Which is exactly the reason corruption runs to unhindered and unnoticed.

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jamar030303 t1_j32u3g3 wrote

Replying to NotBettyGrable (#1,287,884)

The other thing the big banks have going for them is Visa/MasterCard on debit. Credit unions generally don't offer that; your debit card will typically be Interac only, which means it's only good for shopping at physical stores in Canada and the US.

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jamar030303 t1_j32uzni wrote

Replying to cgknight1 (#1,286,116)

>Another example is that in most places in europe, cashapps are not a thing because transfers between banks are free, instant and safe.

Two other factors:

  1. In the US, having someone's bank routing and account number is enough to initiate a withdrawal from their account. You can't do that with just an IBAN in SEPA countries.

  2. SEPA bank transfers still require you to know someone's legal name. One thing some people like about "cashapps" is that you don't need to give the sender your legal name.

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jamar030303 t1_j36s9ya wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,289,235)

And you said "nobody" in your earlier comment, which is pretty absolute. Also there are other places that deal in coins- arcades, for starters. Anywhere that deals in cash and doesn't price things in exact multiples of 5 dollars, for another.

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MatthewBakke t1_j37trbt wrote

Replying to jamar030303 (#1,288,947)

I’m familiar with this difference from friends overseas. They think it’s weird to use a third party non-bank, I think it’s weird people have their identity and the bank can see all transactions.

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