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RoguePhoenix89 t1_itj378k wrote

That looks like the writings of a schizophrenic having an episode.

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pluralofjackinthebox t1_itkmsyc wrote

She also seems to have been (still is?) struggling with homelessness and having a lot of difficulty producing records to receive government services and holding on to a working cell phone. Ten years ago her daughter was caring for her. She seems to believe in some conspiracy fantasy involving Joan Jett, a dead police officer named Cedric Dixon, and a woman named Sharon Smiley who keeps zapping her face with some sort of psychic electricity.

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Mattna-da t1_itlt1u7 wrote

It's really Katie Mack who needs to be investigated here.

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guru-juju t1_itjym9y wrote

MY first thought.

I have seen this before.

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higmy6 t1_itk0ef2 wrote

So this really intrigued me and some friends. We started digging, found some other similar posts and notes that people had gotten from seemingly the same lady. It goes back as far as about 13-15 years. We were able to find out her name and her Facebook page which has similar ramblings that have allowed us to piece together a bit of a story.

The basic gist is that she used to live in Ohio but moved to NYC with her mother and brothers seemingly to escape their abusive father. They attended a catholic school, but as it seems they were Jewish she was bullied quite a lot. On top of that some sort of conspiracy with the priests being pedophiles was discovered by her, which she makes seem like her brothers were victims of. She tried to fight this and expose it but was instead framed as crazy. Eventually her father found them and beat the mother to death, which she seems to think the brothers allowed to happen. The two brothers were noted as becoming g rich from Catholic charities and somehow from the mothers death (my guess is selling her stuff) but she was left behind. To me it seems like she was abandoned on account of being crazy

She was homeless for about 15 years after her mother died going in and out of shelters and other peoples homes, some of which were people she knew from High School. This is right around when the first writings were posted online by people she gave them to. Over the years she seems to have fallen deeper and deeper into her mental illness, expedited by conspiracy theories and other crazy political notions. She makes mention of the Italian Mafia hanging around on of the places she frequently stays at as well as their being an overarching catholic pseudo mob of police, Italians, etc. it seems she went to the cops herself many times to no avail

She is clearly a deeply disturbed individual, and while it was interesting to investigate her story and thoughts, it leaves one with a bitter feeling. This woman needs help, much more than is available in this country, and I’m certain she’s not the only one

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vy2005 t1_itkpk4r wrote

Tough to know which parts, if any, are real. I remember meeting a schizophrenic man who was completely convinced that he had killed his mother, who I spoke to on the phone later that day.

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The_Question757 t1_itkzxri wrote

I deal with severe dementia and multitude of mental illnesses in my field. One of the nicer residents we look after had a normal conversation with me like it was nothing. he was talking about how his wife and him used to go to the theater until he saw Abraham Lincoln get assassinated the whole story...is a roller coaster to say the least. what caught me off guard is the absolute sincerest tone they have when talking to you.

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medicaldude t1_itlk04a wrote

They probably believed it, so their sincerity was real. Mental illness is a horrible thing, where the brain lies to itself

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The_Question757 t1_itlmhbx wrote

Oh they must definitely do, this was my early experience with schizophrenia and severe dementia. You always hear the stories but the reality of it in your face is an eye opening experience

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higmy6 t1_itkxye8 wrote

That’s entirely true and there were a lot of things that I left out because I just wasn’t convinced they were true, or at least entirely so

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LeicaM6guy t1_itl0kho wrote

There’s a solid chance almost none of that was true.

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higmy6 t1_itla5cj wrote

There is buy I also think there’s a solid chance that some of it is. A lot of time mental illness plays off of the most Al experiences and can be heightened by them. I don’t find it far fetched that she went through some trauma that has contributed to her illness

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andagainandagain- t1_itldj8g wrote

Her Instagram has her mother’s name on it. Googled it and the obituary says that she “passed away peacefully, after a long illness”.

You are very right about her needing help and it doesn’t sit well with me either that she’s nearly guaranteed to never receive that help.

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higmy6 t1_itlpid0 wrote

Oh nice! I’m glad to hear the part about her being beaten to death wasn’t true. Although now that I think of it ig she never explicitly said the man killed her, only remaking that he had severely beaten her and then remarking on her passing shortly afterwards which lead me to the wrong deduction. That still makes me wanna infer if he ever did actually get to them after moving to NYC or not though

But yeah, it’s extremely depressing to know that we have so little options for people like this and that more likely than not she’ll be left with her own disturbed thoughts

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andagainandagain- t1_itlx2kt wrote

It says her husband preceded her in death, so I hope that wasn’t the case (looks like he passed in 82 and her in 2014)). It actually looks like she passed away in Ohio, so I’m curious why this person didn’t return to Ohio with her mother or other family members. An interesting and sad story nonetheless. I live in midtown, surprised I haven’t run into this woman.

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higmy6 t1_itn9l1d wrote

Huh that’s interesting. I wonder if the husband was actually abusive and the mother went back to Ohio for whatever reason or that was a delusion that she created in her mind and thus prevented her from returning with them

People have been saying she’s mostly around the upper east side so there’s a chance you might run into her eventually judging by how long this has been going on

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Wild_Trip_4704 t1_itkrsnf wrote

I just googled the name another commenter shared and I've seen others get similar letters from her.

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higmy6 t1_itky11y wrote

Yep, the letters go back at least 15 years it looks like. Or that’s the first documented one online

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DatGopherAnIdiotBro t1_itlcwyo wrote

I live on the upper east side and the same lady came up to my wife and I and handed us a very similar note. It was a photo copy of hand written notes with pictures on it. Same exact hand writing except it was much longer. Didn't really make much sense at all. She had a push cart with her that was filled with blue construction styrofoam and plastic bags. Felt really bad for her.

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higmy6 t1_itlqnug wrote

It was most likely her then it seems. It’s a really sad story and just makes me angry that we don’t have a way to help people like this

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DatGopherAnIdiotBro t1_itmoq1i wrote

She was an older white woman with curly white hair. Likely the same lady. Hope she is doing okay.

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higmy6 t1_itn8uvx wrote

Oh yeah that’s her. Matches the pictures she had on her Facebook. She mentioned that people would help her from time to time in her ramblings, so hopefully someone will be able to get her what she needs

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mrcranz t1_itm1feu wrote

i watched one of my good friends become ill with this disease. i stopped seeing him a few years ago but i still see his crazy ramblings on facebook. sucks to see it happen man

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higmy6 t1_itn969r wrote

Yep, I’ve seen it happen to my uncle. Got to the point where he threatened me. And that’s from a guy that used to spend a lot of time with me. It’s really heartbreaking to see that shit happen.

A line that really made me sad in her posts was about how she went to her high school reunion and how when people would talk to her eventually they’d “look over her shoulder and leave”

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Mattna-da t1_itltqco wrote

I mean, there is definitely, proven beyond doubt, a real conspiracy in the catholic church to create a pipeline of vulnerable boys to abuse, then systematically cover it up, and the entire administration is complicit. Why would this very real conspiracy not also involve some Mafioso, private detectives, and some connected, corrupt cops?

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603er t1_itjizvi wrote

This person is almost certainly schizophrenic.

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Humble-Secret-9204 t1_itj9o99 wrote

Zoom in on juror summons and google Caren D. Weckstein. 100% Mental illness.

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eraj102 t1_itjmgnv wrote

A lot of homeless people in the city are schizophrenic or have some other kind of mental illness and the cops will just tell them to fuck off instead of trying to help them

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Pale-Neck t1_itjnucw wrote

I love shitting on cops as much as the next person but what can cops do in that situation for real

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eraj102 t1_itjoa9e wrote

Yeah there’s not really a great solution because there’s not an infrastructure set up to help people in these situations

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co_matic t1_itjy8t9 wrote

There used to be.

Reminder that Ronald Reagan fucked this country.

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summers16 t1_itkxwru wrote

Weren’t mental health facilities — publicly and privately funded ones — like basically openly abusive to severely (and moderately) mentally ill patients for most of the 20th (and all of the 19th, and probably whatever they had back in the 18th too…) centuries ??

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wishtobeforgotten t1_itkyegq wrote

Yes but his solution was to close all facilities, not regulate them. Leaving them homeless.

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WhamJammer t1_itlebbi wrote

Yeah bottom line some people just need to be institutionalized. A person like this is never going to voluntarily do so.

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imalittlefrenchpress t1_itl9dek wrote

That’s true, I remember those days and how the city began to be flooded with people who needed competent guidance and structure, and instead of being abused in institutions, they began to be abused on the streets.

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Ieatclowns t1_itk6lwh wrote

I got something like this through my door once. Handposted. I reported it to the cops (UK) and they took it seriously because it was so obvious that a person having an episode of mental illness had posted it. The officer told me to lock my doors at night and I was scared. Then a few days later they called and said that a lot of neighbours had got one so it wasn't targeted. It's so sad. They must be so afraid.

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relampagos_shawty t1_itllgd7 wrote

Do people in the uk not usually lock their doors? I think I heard that somewhere

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Ieatclowns t1_itm3828 wrote

We do but we also have letterboxes in our doors so mail . comes right into your house.

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falseGlitter t1_itjoa3a wrote

I received a similar flyer I think in Brooklyn at the Mermaid Parade or Manhattan at the Pride Parade. I was deeply confused, I didn’t read the whole thing, too much words. The person never explained it, they just handed it out

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the_bionic_investor t1_itkvlqg wrote

What a broken society we have that these people have no services whatsoever to help them, just to guarantee more mega-yachts for billionaires.

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Thtguy1289_NY t1_itkylb3 wrote

There are services. Lots of them. One if the biggest problems is that we don't have any real involuntary hold laws, and most of these people truly believe that they have nothing wrong with them and as such won't voluntarily go seek out treatment

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the_bionic_investor t1_itl2au7 wrote

They are wholly insufficient, but yes we need to bring involuntary holds back.

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Thtguy1289_NY t1_itlap8a wrote

Oh yea, I'm not saying they are the 100% absolute solution, but they are definitely a start

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GoodLifeWorkHard t1_itkuisp wrote

Schizophrenic for sure. From what I can understand, this person had a tragic life. She/he was bullied in school for being trans and then spiraled a whole series of unfortunate & tragic events causing her to be homeless which spiraled another whole series of unfortunate & tragic events.

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Imagine357 t1_itl1ek3 wrote

This is solid visionary art museum stuff.

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moody4foody t1_itkxcj6 wrote

This is the writing of someone with mental illness. I hope they get help. How sad.

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neuro__crit t1_itl0qbm wrote

Undiagnosed and/or untreated mental illness.

Sadly, there's a lot of that in big cities these days.

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Lankience t1_itkrzbp wrote

This feels like it belongs in House of Leaves

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nomindbody t1_itlvsxw wrote

Report to 311 either homeless outreach or NYC WELL so an outreach coordinator can connect with her to start to get her help if she is is mental health crisis or a schizophrenic episode.

NYC WELL Mental Health Services https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01682

NYC Homeless Assistance https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-01037

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lotusflower64 t1_itmovp3 wrote

op is only interested in karma farming not actually helping this person.

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Unlikely-Friend444 t1_itv9b34 wrote

Is it possible to report someone like her because I don't know where she is located exactly and it looks she's still on the streets.

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nomindbody t1_itwq07n wrote

Yes. 311 allows for general location descriptions. Could also report via 311 Twitter via DM. That format allows for more flexibility in reporting.

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LesCactus t1_itjpwa4 wrote

idk but keep it its cool

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swiftydocs t1_itl2t1k wrote

Can someone translate this to English?

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permalink_child t1_itnmpq1 wrote

My face/demeanor is being destroyed bad since 2018 when I learned singer Joan Jett wanted help me homeless. Suddenly Sharon Smiley at my homeless box/sea (sp?) staring at me then BARRAGE ELECTRICITY at my face constant. I yelled as blacks drove more trans. Smiley pays them. And last 20 mo.’s Katie Mack look-alike marries bro Steve. They stung up (sp?) my FACE – TORE IT APART. By 2020 I dreamt Sharon Smiley wanted Joan Jett for herself as they laughed at my yelling. 2020 January I gave my info to cop Cedric Dixon. 3 mo.’s later he dead. Then Katie Mack got me street (sp?) Cop. Mack worked with Cedric. Since Mack housed (sp?) me threat HOLD my SSI/me/my phone. Only housed me to lock me. 2009 I got SSI no prob 9 yrs? Stolen. Got it back 2021 with Mack and someone made up childhood/high school records a troubled history. I now had mental (sp?) holds or suicides or kid lover assaults. My entire rep destroyed by Katie Mack, Smiley / Catcher (sp?) ian (sp?) help cop for only threat take. Since 1998 fighting child sex irish Halin (sp?) cops, lock me, make up lies. Lynne Bernstein is running info he tells me how good I look the (sp?) my eyes/lids been zapped. His dad Mike became Ted Turner layered (sp?) then Bob Hope died be cop partied (sp?) would with. His cop bro a k a dead. Only job Berstein got me was lady lodge (sp?) won to NYS.

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Rikcycle t1_itl2y0z wrote

Why you take it?

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jheono t1_itl3fg9 wrote

I hope they end up okay. We need better systems for people going thru this kind of stuff.

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Medium_Shake1163 t1_itl5lzh wrote

Nothing like being mentally ill in America! Poor woman, I hope she is helped.

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HoraceGrand t1_itlgp2q wrote

Someone please decipher and write this out

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3_gloves t1_itlgql5 wrote

I’d avoided this lady…

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Treat--14 t1_itlm1uv wrote

Y is this lowkey beautiful

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FFLNY t1_itm88qs wrote

Outside of creations made through art therapy, there is very little beautiful about mental illness

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permalink_child t1_itnmjff wrote

My translation - anything labels "(sp?)" is either unintelligible or spelling issue:

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My face/demeanor is being destroyed bad since 2018 when I learned singer Joan Jett wanted help me homeless. Suddenly Sharon Smiley at my homeless box/sea (sp?) staring at me then BARRAGE ELECTRICITY at my face constant. I yelled as blacks drove more trans. Smiley pays them. And last 20 mo.’s Katie Mack look-alike marries bro Steve. They stung up (sp?) my FACE – TORE IT APART. By 2020 I dreamt Sharon Smiley wanted Joan Jett for herself as they laughed at my yelling. 2020 January I gave my info to cop Cedric Dixon. 3 mo.’s later he dead. Then Katie Mack got me street (sp?) Cop. Mack worked with Cedric. Since Mack housed (sp?) me threat HOLD my SSI/me/my phone. Only housed me to lock me. 2009 I got SSI no prob 9 yrs? Stolen. Got it back 2021 with Mack and someone made up childhood/high school records a troubled history. I now had mental (sp?) holds or suicides or kid lover assaults. My entire rep destroyed by Katie Mack, Smiley / Catcher (sp?) ian (sp?) help cop for only threat take. Since 1998 fighting child sex irish Halin (sp?) cops, lock me, make up lies. Lynne Bernstein is running info he tells me how good I look the (sp?) my eyes/lids been zapped. His dad Mike became Ted Turner layered (sp?) then Bob Hope died be cop partied (sp?) would with. His cop bro a k a dead. Only job Berstein got me was lady lodge (sp?) won to NYS.

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SeaworthinessOne2114 t1_itl281n wrote

Not sure there's anything cohesive or coherent about this just the rantings of a mad person.

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Doc580 t1_itl7pxx wrote

Something about Joan Jett helping her?

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ordersetfire t1_itld3c8 wrote

I got a different one from the same lady about six months ago on Broadway and 80th!! It was about coronavirus being created in Corona, Queens by Hispanic immigrants!

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stiljo24 t1_itldz5r wrote

my kingdom to the person that tries to transcribe this.

or at least an upvote.

at least if i see it.

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Insomniac_80 t1_itlpyx6 wrote

Is there some service that transcribes handwritten notes for reddit?

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Jeremybastard t1_itlubfo wrote

Reminds me of the notebooks from that movie, Seven.

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lanadelcrying t1_itlwl11 wrote

I’ve been given this before by this woman. I feel for her.

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peepeehalpert_ t1_itmav21 wrote

Mental illness sadly. Not everyone has access to healthcare. For those who do, it’s so important to take your meds.

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vedhead t1_itnc6xd wrote

It looks like a disturbed person's expression of their world.

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BonkBonkOnTheNoggin t1_itngjpq wrote

Katie Mack and Sharon Smiley are two of the mean girls that have staging electrical barrages against Caren’s demeanor for years. Tis known.

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yourestillonmute t1_ito32ra wrote

Reminds me of "You Gotta Get a Gimmick" from Gypsy

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cherryplays55 t1_iug7ey4 wrote

Pls translate what is whritten there

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lotusflower64 t1_itkudhu wrote

Is anyone going to actually help this poor woman or is this post just for attention, laughs, and karma??

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Abtorias t1_itlupj4 wrote

What would you like for the average Redditor to do?

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gunhed76 t1_itkyti0 wrote

I would gladly recieve it and frame it, It's too good

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DaBrooklynGirl t1_itjonp8 wrote

COVID’S happy residual. Lunatics everywhere, 15 year olds with guns. Cops nowhere and the City circling the drain with overdevelopment and reimagining it as a place for a select few. Only places worse are Florida and Texas.

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Thtguy1289_NY t1_itkyw7v wrote

I see you haven't heard of Los Angeles

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DaBrooklynGirl t1_itmnq48 wrote

I have. Cali has land mass and a whole unique set of issues they don’t need to have (homeless cities in the middle of residential hoods, fires that wipe out communities) but you also seem to have a bit more forgiving population of citizens who are patient.

The place I mentioned are nutso.

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