TLDR: Climate change resulting in rising average winter temperatures and La Nina resulting in storms not conducive to generating snow in the region

The latest we've ever gone without measurable snow is Jan 29, and it's looking like we'll blow past the record this winter season :\

Where are you getting your 18 day forecast?

Same place he’s gotten all the other slush he’s spraying

The La Niña system stays strong and will stay strong for the rest of winter. Next 10-14 days are pretty warm overall. I’ll stick with my prediction.

I can deal with bitter cold. Just don’t give us snow.

Thank you mama Gaia 🙏🏼

Fuck snow. thank god.

there was a day or two with light snow in December and some days with morning frost as well ...

If only it wasn't due to a global quality of life reducing issue that will cause suffering for billions...

Kids don't even get snow days anymore so its truly pointless. They're supposed to do remote learning instead.

> Kids don’t even get snow days anymore

Wait till you find out what else climate change is responsible for

You can go back to Ohio if you can't handle it.

January and February in NYC are the peak snowfall months, not December, and we're not even halfway through January yet.

On the ten year average, January is a little snowier. On the 20 year average, February is a little snowier. So regardless of climate change and La Niña, just random chance could mean we don't get much snow by mid January.

Obvs global warming is bad mmmkay but I don’t hate our downright balmy winter.

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The average normal snowfall amount till date is 7.4 inches. The latest date we’ve ever received measurable snow is Jan 29th and we’ll be reaching at least the 20th without measurable snow this season. This isn’t normal.

The headline was shortened for Reddit but the article is discussing measurable snow

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Lol fucking idiot

I love these articles because they usually come a week or two before disaster and then everyone says that we got hit outta no where

I was outside wearing a t-shirt last week it was insane. But if it means I don't have to shovel snow, bring on the global warming.

Our winter doesn’t start until the second half of January now. We’ll be seeing snow in February and March.

Snowfall not arriving until late January isn't new there. That's been the case for the past several years.

Could just be a normal outlier

Didnt we have some measurable snow around a week before Christmas. I don’t think it was even an inch , but the snow did stick . At least in parts of the Bronx and Manhattan

I’m all for snow, just not a blizzard

Sounds like denial to me. This is without a doubt the warmest January I’ve ever experienced and will likely be the warmest ever for the city. We’re almost halfway through the month and it hasn’t even gotten below freezing, never mind the snow. And it’s not just the first two weeks. Current conditions are unlikely to produce measurable snow over the next two weeks either.

Edit: data for NYC weather history in 2023, showing the minimum temperature of 33 degrees so far:

https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/us/ny/new-york-city

I’ve said this before.

Snow accumulation before the new year is atypical for NYC. Like a handful of times my entire life and most of those were a dusting.

We’re 12 days into the new year. Declaring the year snow free is like declaring the game over bottom of the first inning. There’s a lot of pitches to be thrown still.

We could still have a long miserable winter of 20 snow storms. I’d guess not given weather patterns. It’s been relatively dry. But it’s hardly over.

People are insane when they think NYC normally has snow around thanksgiving. That would be exceptional.

Winter only started a couple of weeks ago. The best is yet to come.

yeah, i read an article saying its the least amount of snow since 1978 or something

We need a snowpocalypse that shuts the city down for 2 days. Thats all I want. I'm not asking for much.

It has definitely gotten below freezing. Maybe not daytime, though.

You’ll be shoveling buckets of water out of your attic soon enough

Tonga volcanic eruption last year also trapped water vapor in the atmosphere that will take 1-2 years to dissipate. Will have moderate warming effect this year and next year.

Does anybody shovel buckets of water?

I gotta imagine NY and the feds will create a seawall long before the water makes it to my neighborhood since I’m not in a flood zone.

Too soon for NYC.

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I hate snow.

Oh I don't deny climate change at all, broadly, regionally, locally. Winters in the 90s were colder, I remember it quite clearly. And we have data that shows it too.

I just hesitate to blame it for a single anomalous situation that is (so far) within the bounds of normal variation.

Last few winters been pretty cold and since this winter been warm the article be like climate change lol

Don’t forget the alternative where they say we’re getting a class 3 kill storm and then we get an inch of snow.

Then the Sanitation Dept gets blamed for not picking up the garbage while they run out of salt for the roads.

It says in the article the average snowfall up to this point this season is 7.4 inches. Central Park has received 0 inches. This is abnormal.

This is not true

https://gothamist.com/news/how-nycs-2020-2021-snowfall-stacks-against-other-years

We have consistently, even in the ‘poor’ snowfall seasons like 2019-20, received some form of measurable snow prior to end January. This is the first time since the 70s we have received at maximum a dusting this late in the season (assuming it doesn’t snow the next 2 weeks, which it won’t per current weather patterns)

Yes this is referring to central park’s measurement center which I believe is considered the ‘official’ NYC center, but other boroughs received a dusting back in early December

Agreed, I love the weather forums , follow them during peak winter and hurricane season. In winter , without fail, moaning by posters about how terrible any winter is with no snow, the worst ever... Of course, two weeks later, the storm of the century.

Without fail.

According to the data below, you’re wrong. January 2023 minimum temperature in NYC so far is 33 degrees on 1/8/23.

https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/us/ny/new-york-city

Oh sorry, I meant the kind of denial when you subconsciously don’t want to believe something because it’s so horrible.

We just got lucky. The one that destroyed buffalo barely missed us.

When was the last good snowpocalypse? I remember one I think in Feb 2009? And then the big one that went from DC to Boston was... 2016? I remember that one because I was at a conference in Chicago in February (I thought that was a cruel joke), and everyone at the conference flying back to the east coast got stuck in O'hare. (I lucked out because I'd attached a weekend in San Fran to my business trip before returning home) - and we had a pretty good storm at some point during COVID (early 2021? - I think we were all still in lockdown) - but it wasn't a snowpocalpyse.

I really love snow and I hope they’re wrong. Few things make my dog happier than snow and we live right next to Central Park now. I’m dying for some playing in the snow mornings.

If there’s been any year where Jan 29th was the latest date, wouldn’t that mean this is normal?

Why do you think that the span of what you’ve experienced in your lifetime is indicative at all to what’s “normal?”

I’m actually a Geographer and one of my hobbies is studying historical weather data for the tri state area. If conditions hold, this will be the warmest January since records were kept, which I assure you is much longer than I’ve been alive.

We’re not even halfway through January lol. And you referenced “your experience” in a prior post as a comparison point.

Based on the data I’ve seen and the current weather forecasts, I guarantee you this January will be in the top five warmest of all time. I’ll message you on February 1st to say I told you so.

It was 9 degrees less than 1 week before New Years

Oh jeez a single data point that’s not even relevant to our conversation

Lol ok bud - let’s call it here. Have a nice day.

Love that people are getting mad at others that don't care for the lack of snow. Like you can recognize that climate change is fucking horrible while also not wanting to deal with slush and hard snow slabs everywhere for weeks.

Not necessarily. Numbers are currently way below average and this is already the 6th longest we’ve gone in winter without measurable snow. It’s an outlier.

I don’t like the sound of that “class 3.”

/r/titlegore

It was below 30 in December

This winter gonna go death con 3 on NYC.

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Lol, okay, calm down. So 33° and what was the official real feel with the wind? Says 15mph winds…. so definitely felt freezing when I walked my dog.

Lmao I didn’t realize we measured temperatures based on your feelings! Somebody tell water that it freezes when YOU say it freezes!

Lol, dang you really have a stick up your ass about this!

I’ll assume you’re being facetious and have seen “real feel” posted alongside measured temps.

Ok. It’s not normal. Meanwhile it’s snowing endlessly in Utah. What do I do with that information

Idk I’ve only lived here for about 5 years and it’s happened at least twice before new years. 2018 had that big unexpected snowstorm in November, and last year there was a good amount of snow a week before Christmas. I don’t remember other years, but I’m sure it’s happened more than a handful of times in your life.

November 2018 had a bit of a snowpocalypse - it was only about 6” of snow but was completely unexpected, fucked the city up for a day.

2018 and 2021 both had snow in either November or December: I don’t really remember the other years.

Weather is unpredictable and there are exceptions to everything.

Well yeah, but it’s not quite accurate to say we haven’t had snow before January for the past several years.

This will be the warmest January in recorded history in New York. Mark my words.

We had a snow storm that closed down njt and the mta in like 2019 bruh

Damn when cause next week gonna be almost 60 bud