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DixonWasAliveAgain t1_j7d8284 wrote

Where did you read of a reopening this summer? I've been hearing about this station's restoration for years (restoration as a building, not as a train station of course), but haven't seen evidence yet.

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Odd-Emergency5839 OP t1_j7dbmk6 wrote

There’s a sign outside of the station now that lists improvements being done and that funding is being provided by the feds with a slated reopening of summer 2023 -sign was not there last time I rode past in august.

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[deleted] t1_j7e5heu wrote

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RJ5R t1_j7eg329 wrote

was probably earmarked and spent, before even received

overtime and pension shortfall expenditures

meanwhile, the "fuck our customers" attitude continues

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darwinpolice t1_j7d8vil wrote

I walk my dog past there occasionally, and they've done *some* work that I've noticed. Electricity is on, at least for the external lights.

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hdhcnsnd t1_j7d81iz wrote

Fuck that cobblestone on the SRT though.

If Shawmont reopens I might start taking regional there from CC when I want to ride the SRT. Would be good to avoid the upcoming MLK detour nonsense and the Manayunk Tow Path.

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Melcheroni t1_j7dixs3 wrote

As far as I know the plans are just to rehab the building not add it as a stop on the line. You could always get off at the Miquon stop which is a little further up if you want to ride SRT, it’s also trail adjacent

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WoodenInternet t1_j7ek1b0 wrote

Hmm..In that case are they just rehabbing to make it a museum or something? Seems like a waste to rehab it just to be ornamental if that's what they're doing.

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MeEvilBob t1_j7eodkw wrote

The building needs a lot of work, rehabing it to be ornamental still means saving it from eventually just collapsing. Even if they re-do the whole thing with a nice exterior and leave the interior empty, they'll still have to have everything up to code, which will make a future use for the building a lot easier.

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WoodenInternet t1_j7eqbwd wrote

Fair point. I just hope it's not rehabbed and left to sit unused for another lengthy period and it ends up needing rehab again. Would be kinda cool to make it a museum a caretaker could live in, like the old station family did.

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mortgagepants t1_j7fo411 wrote

it would be cool if they made it into like...a place to stop on the trail. toilets, place to fill your water bottle, big maps, maybe some bike tools.

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Hashslingingslashar t1_j7hg5k2 wrote

That’s the idea I think. That + a little café

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mortgagepants t1_j7hkwtu wrote

i hate that cafe BS. i don't want a $5 cappuccino after a run or a bike ride. just pay an attendant to keep the place tidy and stock the vending machines. good grief.

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John_EightThirtyTwo t1_j7j5rwj wrote

OK, but do you mind if I buy a cappuccino? I mean, I agree that you shouldn't be forced to buy one.

I guess my view is that cappuccino should be neither compulsory nor prohibited.

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Hashslingingslashar t1_j7jbtws wrote

Can’t upvote this enough. People are so quick to hate on things other people want when it barely affects them and I don’t get it.

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mortgagepants t1_j7kkmxm wrote

No, I don't mind at all if anyone buys cappuccino. what bothers me is they use tax payer money to fix it, which i'm fine with, but then they just expect the opening, closing, cleaning, and maintenance to be done by..."cafe".

except whomever owns the cafe expects it to make a profit. so now the water bottle filling things dont work, because they make more money selling bottles of water. now they're only open a few hours a day, because that is the busiest time. after a season or two, it is basically a tax-payer funded private business building that nobody who isn't free saturday afternoons between 9-3 can use.

i would love to go on a nice long run and finish with an espresso and a beer, but not at the expense of everyone else in the general public.

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solipsisticsundays t1_j7di5pr wrote

Can’t count how many times I’ve almost ate shit on those with my cleats clipped in or have seen people take spills not expecting them.

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indoninjah t1_j7dluzt wrote

That and those damn blocks stopping cars from getting on the trail. Gotta go like 0.5mph on that spot lol. Tough as hell if you’re riding back from Conshohocken Brewery too 😂

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TheTwoOneFive t1_j7dp5q5 wrote

And then the towpath has that random concrete block jutting out into the path for the past 6ish months. Any idea why that is there?

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d_stilgar t1_j7dqc6l wrote

I hate that one. It’s barely big enough for a single bike and that area has too much gravel to do a quick downhill stop safely if you have to avoid or wait for anyone.

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Past_Celebration7084 t1_j7fkpcp wrote

Which one the one by the construction going on by the dam, or the one by Shaw mount station with the cobblestones. I have to bob and weave on my bike.

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TheTwoOneFive t1_j7fm0er wrote

The dam one - the Shawmont station --> trail connection stinks, but at least the blocks there have a purpose (stopping cars from getting on the trail). I have no idea what purpose the dam one serves.

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Starpork t1_j7ddkxb wrote

What's happening with MLK?

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hdhcnsnd t1_j7dmydg wrote

https://bicyclecoalition.org/update-on-mlk-drive-2-year-closure-due-to-bridge-rehabilitation/

The bridge will be closing for construction until 2025. That’s going to close MLK to everyone, as well as the SRT from the skatepark to the water works until then.

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d_stilgar t1_j7dqkcj wrote

Will is just be the bridge that will close? I could see the rest of MLK still being open for out and back rides or local access for cars during the week.

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Max_Powers42 t1_j7e0u6i wrote

I forget the timeline, but they're also closing Falls Bridge for 2 years for repairs soon. So you could still get on MLK at Sweetbriar, Montgomery, or Strawberry Mansion, but it's going to be a lot less useful.

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fondots t1_j7eslp0 wrote

The cobblestones and the damn hill.

I admit it, I'm a fatass, started riding a bike this year to do something about that, and that hill was kicking my ass a bit (and it'll probably start kicking my ass again when the weather warms up because I've been slacking off over the winter)

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hethuisje t1_j7fzen1 wrote

I love imagining a mad trail scientist designing this section of the trail for people heading outwards from the city. "First I'll have a little uphill to slow 'em down, then a lip of pavement that the people have to have enough momentum to get over. Then, BOOM, cobblestones! Then some giant rocks that they have to find a path between while other people come barreling through downhill in the opposite direction. Bwa ha ha!"

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Crackrock9 t1_j7dof09 wrote

There used to be a really cool abandoned factory on the path but they tore it down maybe a decade ago. I think you can see the outline/steps directly off the path. If you cross the path to where the dam/abandoned lock house is, you can follow a man made path to abandoned train tracks which leads to an abandoned parking lot which leads to an abandoned paper mill which absolutely has security but that didn’t stop me from getting some cool pics inside and on the roof. Anyways any urbex people do with that knowledge as you wish

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baldude69 t1_j7e8etu wrote

That Paper Mill was the oldest operating in the country when it closed down just a few years ago. It was pretty cool when I went last year. Seems like they’ve torn down a bunch of it recently

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Crackrock9 t1_j7ei271 wrote

Fun fact, they used to make the boxes for White Castle

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Indiana_Jawnz t1_j7fjefe wrote

When it was closed the company intentionally destroyed essential parts of the machinery in order to eliminate the possibility of it being reopened by a competitor.

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mbz321 t1_j7esfyb wrote

Lol, i took a peek through there back in the Spring and there were people actively scrapping the place, dragging metal all the way to their cars parked off the trail.

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baldude69 t1_j7fu3mw wrote

Yep I ran into scrappers while I was there.. tried to stay in the shadows but they saw me. Ended up being friendly but yea, interesting situation

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Indiana_Jawnz t1_j7dudzr wrote

My mom grew up on Nixon street and she knew the family who were the stationmasters here. They were the same family for like 100 years or something like that.

I truly hope they follow through and restore this building.

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MeEvilBob t1_j7eouy7 wrote

I love that the reason the station building is two story is because back in the day the stationmaster and their family would live in an apartment above the station, that way there's someone there on site 24/7. It's kind of a lighthouse deal, which makes sense considering that back before all the development, stations like this one really were in the middle of nowhere.

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Indiana_Jawnz t1_j7gv3bf wrote

Nixon street was so much more isolated and quiet just 20 years ago when I was a kid. Back in the 1970s and before it was about as close to the country as you could get inside of city limits.

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ActionShackamaxon t1_j7dz339 wrote

Can’t believe it’s not being demolished for an 8-story apartment building with tri-color paneling.

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Odd-Emergency5839 OP t1_j7e0yi8 wrote

It’s being restored by septa using money from the federal government

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MeEvilBob t1_j7epvo6 wrote

As far as I know it's a federally protected historic building, although those have been torn down before by developers who managed to find a way around the laws.

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ActionShackamaxon t1_j7eq4n4 wrote

Historic designations don’t mean very much to the bureaucrats of this city. All it takes is a developer to pay off an engineer to say the building is unsafe, and all bets are off. Part of a broader discussion for another time.

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zocean t1_j7esfk3 wrote

i would be very into having that discussion another time

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ActionShackamaxon t1_j7ev62q wrote

Well, since you’re interested, here’s my summary:

The Philly Historical Commission (PHC) allows “demolition in the public interest” of designated historic buildings under Rule 12. This rule is a “catch all” enabling a demolition applicant to circumvent all the other rules. Critics (like myself) believe the rule was originally intended to enable demolition only in cases where a public good is required to replace the building (i.e. some type of public utility infrastructure). However, the rule has been used by developers’ lawyers as justification for taking down “unsafe” buildings, regardless of its future replacement. The PHC allows this.

The reason it’s problematic for the PHC to allow liberal use of Rule 12 is because we have another functioning rule that is perfectly adequate for dealing with safety issues. Rule 9 allows a developer to demolish a historic designated building if they can show “financial hardship” making it impractical to preserve or convert the building in question. Obviously, developers with deep pockets who simply don’t want to pay for restoration and are interested only in a cash-grab are not able to use Rule 9 for their purposes. So they hire a lawyer (many times, a very specific one who curiously sat on Mayor Kenney’s “Historic Preservation Task Force” - what a joke), to argue in favor of Rule 12 as a public safety matter.

Then the developer hires (that is, pays) an “independent” structural engineer to issue an opinion on the safety of the building. Invariably, these engineers find irreparable flaws and imminent danger requiring the buildings to be taken down immediately. Occasionally, a non-profit preservation organization will pay for a counter-opinion from an alternative engineer. The PHC will host a dog and pony show hearing allowing the counter-opinionated engineer to testify as to a.) why the building is not actually imminently dangerous, or b.) the many ways the building could be saved, or c.) both a and b - but curiously the PHC doesn’t ever lean on this testimony to trigger a Rule 9 (financial hardship) analysis. Instead, they let the testimony volley back and forth until everyone is tired and justify taking down the building - “because we simply can’t risk the safety of our residents” - while the developer runs victoriously to the bank.

Occasionally (particularly for high profile cases), members of the public will give volunteer testimony and ask why Rule 9 is not applied. The PHC more or less dusts over these questions, redirecting all the misled peons to the matter at hand, which is a Rule 12 decision! How could they ever enforce a Rule 9 investigation when dealing with a Rule 12 decision?? Clearly, the PHC is either complicit or dumb. You can make your own judgments on that.

The PHC gets away with this because a demolition applicant often applies specifically for a “Rule 12 demo permit” — and procedurally the PHC hides behind that. So in the PHC’s eyes, they would need to either dismiss the case and/or require an amended application including a Rule 9 demo request. Of course, the PHC never goes this route. It’s also questionable whether they even need to do this. The PHC Rules don’t explicitly distinguish between types of demolition applications; the PHC has authority to apply all of the rules for the purpose of an application request. But of course, they don’t. They hide behind this charade that the demolition applicant gets to decide on the applicable rules. Are you sensing a trend?

And the wheel continues to turn. And slowly but surely we lose our significant historic buildings in favor of tri-color paneled apartment buildings.

This could all be fixed if Rule 12 was applied properly (meaning, only in instances where public infrastructure is replacing a building). Otherwise, Rule 9 should be the default. Even for public safety. If a developer has the funds to preserve a historically designated building, then they should be held to it, or they should sell. Instead, we have developers who squat on designated buildings for the underlying land value until they fall into disrepair sufficiently to tap Rule 12.

P.S. - This is true of city-designated buildings. For federally designated buildings (such as this one), I’m not sure the PHC has jurisdiction. Thankfully.

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RJ5R t1_j7egdj0 wrote

lol right?

totally shocked a developer didn't fill someones pockets

so they could put up more rectangle window and hardipaneling

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FishtownYo t1_j7dnotg wrote

Did you take that abandoned bike?

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[deleted] t1_j7dc2r7 wrote

I love that old station, its right at the end of the SRT paved section and the Manayunk Canal Gravel trail. Soooooo cool!

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Odd-Emergency5839 OP t1_j7g2mqb wrote

So I may have misinterpreted the sign- I don’t think service is going to be restored here but the station is getting $1.25m in repairs/restorations. Sad that trains won’t stop here but very glad it’s being restored nonetheless

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Beart8o t1_j7dpio9 wrote

So cool, gone past many times, but I had no idea it was historically important! I hope they actually rehab it into something.

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21chucks t1_j7e5glh wrote

Sure doesn't look anywhere near reopening

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zocean t1_j7erp7x wrote

so sick!!! thanks for sharing

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Stevekane42 t1_j7ikr90 wrote

thats fkn sick. anyone have a picture of it in its heyday?

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tamjansen t1_j7j2814 wrote

In case anyone else was curious- house was built in 1826, it became a passenger shelter in 1835, SEPTA closed it in 1996

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bukkakedebeppo t1_j7g2mkv wrote

I love to see it! I grew up on Long Island and my town had its own railroad station that I would use to go into the city, and it was awesome. Before automated ticket vending machines the inside would be bustling with activity, but these days it is mostly closed. I hope this station becomes an active hub once again.

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TantricEmu t1_j7g75qr wrote

Is this supposed to be part of the reading line?

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Indiana_Jawnz t1_j7pqf2p wrote

It was once part of the Reading Line, yeah.

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TantricEmu t1_j7pr2la wrote

Yeah I’ve been hearing they’re trying to get the reading line back up and running. That’s exciting.

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Phl_worldwide t1_j7fnmh3 wrote

Nothing kills investment into Philadelphia like the Amtrak ride from NYC through N Philly

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