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NotUnstoned t1_jbyyqba wrote

Okay hear me out here.

I think the best idea for Kelly drive is to make it slightly wider (meaning the bike trail would need to be slightly smaller in some areas) and add barriers in the center, between each direction of travel. It makes it safer because you avoid oncoming crashes, and there’s also natural bottlenecks at the rock tunnel and the corner near the stands that could only fit one lane, so speed limits would need to be reduced. You only give half of the people the opportunity to drive onto the grass now without doing extra u turns, and you make the openings that would allow those uturns entrances to parking lots anyway.

On the weekends, they can close the side of the road that comes into the city, and it will offset the width reduction of the current path by allowing runners and bikers to use the street while being protected by a barricade. Added bonus of even lower speeds on the weekend because you only have two lanes now.

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bukkakedebeppo t1_jbzat0e wrote

Or, hear me out, reduce it to one lane in each direction and add a berm in the median. Or, even better, a light rail that connected City Hall to Manayunk.

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ConfiaEnElProceso t1_jbzetij wrote

Yep. This is the way. I'd prefer a bike only lane as the multiuse path gets crowded, but a tram would be fine.

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ConfiaEnElProceso t1_jbzf428 wrote

Wider lanes encourage higher speeds and are more dangerous.

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NotUnstoned t1_jbzfgp5 wrote

I didn’t say make the lanes wider at any point. You can’t put a barricade in the middle of Kelly drive without making the whole thing wider.

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ConfiaEnElProceso t1_jbzg6yp wrote

My bad. I misread it.

However the point still stands, a divider would make drivers feel safer and encourage faster speeds.

Second, we should be cutting down on traffic and space devoted to cars on Kelly Dr, not increasing it.

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ChrisW828 t1_jc0ed9f wrote

I respectfully disagree. I drive slower next to barriers because I’m afraid of hitting them.

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