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Vozegro t1_j9pg490 wrote

Good. Autonomous vehicles are not the way of the future.

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uglybushes t1_j9pgp8s wrote

Why not

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Vozegro t1_j9pi203 wrote

After $100 billion spent, the technology has hardly improved.

For them to work on a mass scale, the infrastructure in this country needs to be updated to remove inefficiencies and non-standardized vehicle pathways.

Pittsburgh is a prime example of this, we have so many fucked up intersections.

The government has no incentive to fix these, because they’re not a problem for human drivers.

By the time the government would ever spend time and effort, humanity will have probably killed itself off.

We’re never going to get a fully autonomous vehicle society.

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babyyodaisamazing98 t1_j9pzpu7 wrote

Hardly improved is a classic acclimation bias. It’s like when people say battery tech hasn’t improved.

The technology has made giant leaps and bounds over the last 20 years.

Blind spot sensors, automatic parking, auto lane changing, automatic emergency braking, and full self driving in geofenced areas are all standard technology now that didn’t exist 15 years ago.

It might not be as far along as some people would like, but it’s made huge progress in a short time.

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Vozegro t1_j9q0fzz wrote

Yeah and in the last 5 it has not, despite spending increasing 1000x. No huge progress has been made, just like with batteries. The technology is reaching its plateau.

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Volts-2545 t1_j9r6kba wrote

I test FSD systems and promise you that these systems have improved greatly. Just because they’re not ready yet doesn’t mean they are a failure. Just needs another few years to cook. Realistically level 3 systems for highways could already be there if companies prioritized it. Everyone jokes abt tesla but autopilot has been a rock solid lane keep system for half a decade, and has been on sale for years.

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uglybushes t1_j9pkd6l wrote

You don’t think autonomous driving tech has improved? Mercedes has a vehicle that takes full responsibility if an accident happens. It’s coming

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Vozegro t1_j9pkysr wrote

Mercedes new car is not autonomous at all. Under certain conditions the driver may remove their hands and feet from controlling the car. It’s called “level 3”, and is basically only able to be used on freeways.

The technology isn’t there and doesn’t work. If it did, we’d have car rolling around that have no one inside of them.

There has been minimal growth in the past half decade.

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Gladhands t1_j9pz5ur wrote

I have a 3 year old Subaru that does that. Lmao

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uglybushes t1_j9pl8us wrote

So they do have level 3? Which is very autonomous. So level 4 and 5 are coming.

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Vozegro t1_j9pn1j5 wrote

Level 3 is not autonomous. You sound like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Have a nice life.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pmkrx wrote

You're not responding to a single point in the OP's post.
 
Level 3 is not autonomous, it's basically highway driver assist.
 
The technology does not work and the people in this sub who were saying a decade ago that self-driving cars would rule the streets by 2020 were wrong.

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akmalhot t1_j9pxy2f wrote

but tesla says they have had full self driving autopilot for years! the stock price says its true /s

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YIMBYYay t1_j9r6rta wrote

Autonomous, at least in the sense that this company and others are looking to do is purely highway driving, for now. Last mile autonomy is still a long ways off.

Locomotive shutdown because venture capital money is locking up due to interest rate increases. And there are dozens of other companies working in the same space that have better/more advanced tech. Volvo, Mercedes, and others are pouring billions into driverless semis so there’s little need for a CMU startup in Pittsburgh.

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pyrojoe121 t1_j9tu4ki wrote

You do realize that companies have fully self driving vehicles without a driver giving rides to paying customers in Arizona and the Bay Area at this very moment? Saying they have hardly made any progress is just laughably wrong.

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Vozegro t1_j9tudav wrote

No there isn’t lol you’re delusional

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akmalhot t1_j9wkoac wrote

Yes there is? Waymo.has cars in geofrnced areas giving autonomous rides ..

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SayTheLineBart t1_j9pkzd1 wrote

Who says it needs to be “fully” autonomous? I’m sure plenty people who have long highway commutes would still benefit, same with truckers.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pmp51 wrote

Acrisure Stadium has an opening for goal post movers, if you're looking for work.

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SayTheLineBart t1_j9pnehc wrote

wtf yinz are weird.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9po7hn wrote

Highway driver assist exists and has been around for a long time.
 
"Fully" autonomous does not and never will.
 
Calling driver assist "autonomous driving" just encourages people to nap behind the wheel or jerk off or whatever instead of paying attention.

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SayTheLineBart t1_j9pps7u wrote

There are autonomous cars driving the streets of San Francisco today. I have seen the Waymo cars without a driver with my own eyes.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9prkc9 wrote

Yes, and I'm Master P and this is my Bentley.

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SayTheLineBart t1_j9ps6zq wrote

Ok now you’re just being deliberately ignorant.

Here you go: https://waymo.com/

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9psvj0 wrote

I'll believe it when I see these things in autonomous revenue service carrying paid passengers, and not a second beforehand. It's been "right around the corner" for over a decade now, and autonomous vehicle testing has shown that they're far deadlier per 100 million vehicle miles traveled than human drivers are.

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SayTheLineBart t1_j9ptagr wrote

Dude, it’s already here. Lol, “Never” didn’t last very long.

https://youtu.be/ilcrMz_hWz8

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pttoa wrote

Weird, I just tried to call an autonomous taxi here in Pittsburgh but all the companies developing them went out of business.
 
If you're a big enough sucker to watch that video and think it means autonomous taxis are ready to go everywhere and anywhere, let me also sell you on another great investment: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen

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SayTheLineBart t1_j9pu0yf wrote

What was that you said about moving goalposts?

“The technology isn’t accessible to all 8 billion people on Earth, therefore it doesn’t exist and NEVER will!”

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9puahb wrote

You're looking at an easily faked demo video in a controlled setting and claiming that it means that the autonomous taxi is here and in revenue service now.
 
Like I said, call me when these things are in revenue service carrying paid passengers.

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SayTheLineBart t1_j9pus4l wrote

Faked? Ok dude, /r/conspiracy is in need of your service. Watch out for those chemtrails

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pv5kj wrote

Companies lie about their projects all the time. The entire Nikola hyrogen-powered truck demo was faked.
 

https://gizmodo.com/electric-truck-maker-nikola-to-pay-125-million-in-sec-1848251455 https://electrek.co/2020/09/14/nikola-nkla-admits-faking-video-driving-prototype-weak-response/

 

If you can watch that video and conclude from it that it means that self-driving cars are coming to streets everywhere in America any minute, well, there's one of you born every minute.

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alexp8771 t1_j9pq240 wrote

Good? Tons of high paying jobs moving back to the west coast as these companies close.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 OP t1_j9pu6jt wrote

The jobs aren't "moving back to the west coast," they were eliminated because the concept is not viable.

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akmalhot t1_j9py73b wrote

and where do you think those highly paid engineers are going? prob to a tech hub since pitt seems to be unable to materialize itself as a viable spot despit ehaving many of the advantages that RDU, nashville, texas have outside of tax incentives.

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ToonMaster21 t1_j9r67nn wrote

They aren’t going anywhere, if they even live here, because remote work exists for highly paid engineers.

Source: both my wife and I live here and work for companies in other tech hubs.

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perioorno t1_j9rair3 wrote

Obviously that's possible . You assume that Pittsburgh is where they want to live .

There's still value to being inside a tech hub.

There's also , you know, beach towns, no tax states, lake houses, mountain houses , NYC, so cal.

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ToonMaster21 t1_j9rd7wi wrote

Right. I’m here because of family and our relatively avg COL.

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perioorno t1_j9rfik3 wrote

Point is in no way is it good for Pittsburgh, and only potential loss of engineers

They also aren't shuttering completely it's down to the core team

Cries in seed investments

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Vozegro t1_j9pzp0n wrote

They never moved here to begin with, remote work is a thing.

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