Shout out to all of the delivery drivers who keep turning down good gigs cause you think the neighborhood is bad. Thanks! Keep it up!

What does this mean exactly?

After the death of Christina Spicuzza, I can completely understand why drivers and delivery people won't go to certain spots. The BS "pay" from Gig companies isn't worth it.

I do this every single day. I’m not coming anywhere near the river and some other neighbourhoods because of the rude people, dangerous situations I’ve witnessed there, the times I’ve been intimidated by strangers and how you get shouted at by just about anyone because of them having a miserable life. Generally the tips there are worse as well so it doesn’t benefit me to even go there because as soon as I get off that order all the shitty tipped KFC, McDonalds and Chinese food orders keep coming up and ruining my accessibility rate on certain apps. Then I have to take the time to drive back to the place where I do get reasonable tips.

So you’re saying you took some food from Wiklinsburg to Swissvale for $60 bucks?

Or maybe you just happened to pick up your phone at a lucky time and happened to be the first available for that one?

It's wrong that all these companies won't allow drivers in their own vehicles to carry firearms for defense. I'm not saying it would have helped Christina, maybe it would have maybe not. But driver safety and security needs to be prioritized and the way to do that is to let drivers choose what that looks like for them.

This is not a new thing. When I delivered pizza in college was over a decade ago We had streets in neighborhoods we would not service we would service the Mexican war streets but not go to Allendale Street because someone shot two pizza men in the same year on that street. On the same block if I remember correctly.

I did a shop and deliver of a single rice crispy treat to Beltzhoover. It was 1.5 miles for $7.50, so I didn’t think twice until I got near the drop off and then to the residence. I started to question who orders a single rice crispy treat without an ulterior motive? Nothing happened and they tipped me. I guess sometimes you just want a rice crispy treat and you just happen to live in a not so great neighborhood.

Juanita St isn’t a terrible place to deliver to.

So would you have accepted it if that upfront estimate for this double order was $10? No, I don't think so. You got lucky with a good paying order and a generous tipper. Location has nothing to do with it.

No. No, no, no. I am better than the other imaginary drivers and their (also imaginary) reasons for not delivering this specific meal.

I carried every single day I drove for these gig companies.

Thankfully you never had to take it out, I assume... or they would have dropped you.

The company won’t know till you use it to defend yourself or are stupid enough to show a customer

Person sounds like they needed a little human interaction

It was a leave at door order. I never saw them.

Tbh with that kind of distance on a stacked order, I'd be leary of taking it regardless of where it's going. $32 for a trip that could take 30 minutes or 90 minutes depending on traffic.

Better to be dropped by the delivery service than to be "dropped" by some bad actor...

it may seem like it is unfair and awful, but the statistics do not lie. NO one has to risk their life to deliver to an area known for robbery and murder of service people.We post in r/antiwork about unethical and dangerous employers. Well the same goes for neighborhoods and dangerous situations. The reputation has been earned.

Even out in the suburbs it's a thing. I also drove in college in the North Fayette/Robinson area and we had blacklisted addresses and whole housing plans for driver's safety.

You've got someone showing up alone with food and at minimum some cash on them to make change, it's an easy target

OP made $61 delivering from 2 restaurants in Monroeville to 2 different locations in Wilkinsburg and Swissvale. This is ubereats and they’ve started doing a “bidding” system on orders. Normally ubereats (the app) makes out like bandits because they will charge the customer one price and normally find a driver for a lower price. For instance, if they charge the customer $20 for an order they might start asking drivers to accept the order at $5, then if no one accepts it they’ll up it to $6. In this instance not a lot of drivers were delivering to Wilkinsburg (according to op) the trip ended up being $30 with a $30 tip on top (from 2 different customers).

You're a gig worker commenting about the exact conditions that allow you to make a wage, and you feel bad - but not that bad - about it?

If you're not cool with the possibility of race dictating how quickly someone's pizza is delivered, then maybe don't deliver pizza?

I drove in high school and my place refused to deliver to anywhere that wasn't a hotel front desk. No homes, no businesses, nothing other than the 5-ish hotels in the area. Best delivery gig ever, because they were all within eyeshot of each other, gas was cheap at the time, and people on vacation tip well.

No one should EVER "thank" a gig company like Uber. There are far worse things that can happen other than being "fired" by a company that doesn't give a shit about you.

(spooky music) I see you haven't yet had a delivery to Trundle Manor....

I mean how are they actually enforcing that? And how does that trump your rights?

If it's found out that a driver is carrying on the job, they will let them go. Let's say the driver is just sloppy at concealing it and a gunphobic passenger happens to catch a glimpse of it and reports the driver or worse is triggered by it and says they were threatened by the driver when they weren't. The company will let the driver go because drivers having guns is against their ToS. It's not unfathomable, and while it should be a clear cut court case ruling in favor of the driver's 2A rights their policies unfortunately has been allowed to fly.

So you're sloppy about concealing your concealment that's on you. That's the whole point of a CC

Sloppy concealment isn't a crime, nor is carrying for personal protection.

But... I'm not complaining. I'll take $60/hr for just not being irrationally scared of poor people.

Exactly that. I would have been happy to do that trip for $30.

There are two reason why this was a $60 trip. 1) because other drivers turned it down, so UE kept piling on incentives till I got and accepted the offer. 2) both customers were just so thrilled with actually getting good service that they both made an emotional decision to increase my tip.

I'm being heavily sarcastic when I ask them to keep it up. I'll take and enjoy the money in the mean time. But I'd like it better if everyone could count on basic service without having to borrow from the rent or utility money to cover it.

See, I don't know every street. I don't think any driver does. I get offers from Saltsburg to Finleyville and from Cranberry to Smithfield. Nobody can know all of those streets by name.

When I decide whether to take an offer or not, I see the restaurant and maybe which street and the general area for delivery. They tell me the miles from where I am to the last drop and estimated time to do it.

I make my decision based on that. A whole lot of drivers will reject an offer bc the customer lives in a neighborhood that has been in the papers.

Please don't do that cause it puts a burden on people who live in those neighborhoods. But, as long as you do, I'll be making bank.

That's all I was trying to say.

>Trundle Manor

;)

$10? No. Because it was more than 10 miles. I accepted it for $30, which would be enough. I would have been happy with that.

But there is a misbelief that people who live in poorer neighborhoods don't tip and that it's dangerous to go put some food on their porch for them.

That's not true. Neither thing is true. I do it all the time.

If they can take it, 24/7, I can take it for the 3 , minutes I'm there.

Yup

Reefer madness

ok... you're one of the ones I was shouting out to. Thanks! Keep on being paranoid.

So you accept an offer of $32.55 and then criticize other drivers for not accepting that delivery before you for a lower amount?

No... I'm critical of others (driver or not) who are so irrationally scared of poor and well tanned people that they turn down decent offers.

They won't employ these people, approve loans for them, shop in their neighborhood stores. They won't even allow them to move around freely without harassment, demand that our KKKops quit killing them and falsely imprisoning them, etc. They won't spring for infrastructure or decent schools, only more KKKops.

But, so long as these attitudes persist, I'll keep on taking advantage of the situation. So THANKS, bigots! Keep redlining those certain neighborhoods. All the more for the rest of us.

Btw, I checked the detail of that offer. It was 9 miles. But it was 6:30PM. So I probably would have taken it for $15, definitely $20. It wound up taking 50 min, so I'd have been disappointed if it were only $15.