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Powerful_Range_4270 t1_ir9mubc wrote

Looks like the age of smartphones are ending soon.

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[deleted] t1_ir9ns3f wrote

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Adastehc t1_ir9sq6c wrote

doubt we'll see people with headsets going around in public anytime soon. once AR can be put into your normal glasses, then it'd REALLY take off.

a shift in culture might appear thatll make big headsets acceptable tho ,who knows 💀💀

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Kaarssteun t1_ir9yq05 wrote

culture will likely shift even further. Back when cell phones became available, people said "No way do people want to carry that thing with them everywhere! The office will follow me wherever I go!"

Look how that's turned out.

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fukthx t1_ira0myp wrote

> Back when cell phones became available, people said "No way do people want to carry that thing with them everywhere!

but that was maybe because first were briefcase size phones?

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Kaarssteun t1_ira2ik0 wrote

true, but even with smaller cell phones, people still had the "Office following me everywhere" worry

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UltraHawk_DnB t1_ira4i94 wrote

Turns out not everyone works office jobs. AI will definitely hit in that department too

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Optional_Joystick t1_irakz6b wrote

To be fair, I do really hate how the office follows me wherever I go.

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ShadowRazz t1_irb0bwe wrote

I had a boss imply you should always be available on skype

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biologischeavocado t1_irc7m0n wrote

Many years ago I read about the concept of engineered monkeys with boosted intelligence. They would sit behind a computer screen and work all day. This was supposed to be ethical because they would be engineered to like the work.

Now my office has taken over my home and my privacy is violated all of the time, I often think of these monkeys.

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Optional_Joystick t1_ireosej wrote

I keep thinking of the same concept, except with GAI instead of monkeys.

But I also know that if I wasn't continually assigned busywork I might look for things to improve at my company, so maybe it's fine...

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ObjectiveDeal t1_irc3s7u wrote

Because a phone is now a small pc. You have movies music and games everywhere you go .

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ShadowRazz t1_irb06yh wrote

TBF at the time those phones were giant bricks.

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[deleted] t1_ira3nb2 wrote

I dunno theres still the big question of walking into bathrooms with these things and how to actually enforce it. With a phone its obvious when you're using it for recording video. Even audio is a bit more obvious because if you just had the thing in your pocket, audio will be muffled.

So people are not going to feel comfortable seeing all these folks with glasses on not knowing who is seeing what and why.

But you're right, people here need to realize nobody is going to walk around wearing huge headsets.

Now, something like driving with this on could potentially be really nice because you could maybe figure out a way to virtually remove some of your blindspots, like the two support beams at the edge of your windshield... maybe.

But even without that it could be useful, my GPS and speedometer being there would really remove the need for me to move my eyes completely away from the road. It allows me to get the information I need while still maintaining good peripheral vision.

But at the same time self driving cars are becoming a thing...

Cycling with this could be cool too, for the same reasons.

Beyond that, I see these taking off in workplaces and niches first

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superluminary t1_ira71qx wrote

It opens up another realm of stalking. It’ll be doing facial recognition and automatically tagging people with their Facebook, Twitter, Tinder, OF, etc.

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[deleted] t1_ira9psh wrote

Use the NSFW broadcaster extension to publicly broadcast your sexual desires to those who seek them.

Oh god

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GinchAnon t1_irajvmk wrote

I think that there is a legitimate problem to that, and I really have no idea how to solve it that doesn't just have a degree of trust that people won't circumvent it for their device.

I could also see that turning out to not be as big of an issue as people might expect.

if we can get to having real time processed pass through with little enough lag and reliable enough, basically simulating blind-spot correction that we naturally have, and applying it to things like support beams in a car, seems like it should be doable and useful.

though keeping it safe when such mechanisms FAIL is where it could be really tricky.

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[deleted] t1_iralq7p wrote

>though keeping it safe when such mechanisms FAIL is where it could be really tricky.

100% - oh yeah. I almost wonder if - especially if you're using it for driving that it could have a manual eject that flips the lenses out so it's impossible for it to obstruct your eyes. Imagine that shit just filled the entire thing with some crash screen or popup, my god. You want to be able to quickly and physically press a button or something. Although if they're simple glasses you could just smack em off and grab the wheel.

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lohvei0r t1_ir9u1wd wrote

AR helmets will hit first

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Mellow_Sunflower t1_iradxzt wrote

The new age walkman device

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Quealdlor t1_iriska8 wrote

In the past, people wore walkmans and discmans and even boomboxes, so it's not that farfetched to imagine people walking with glasses connected with a wire to a pocket computer, like a smartphone + wired headphones today.

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blxoom t1_irailqk wrote

i can't wait for it. the internet and the real world will finally merge into one, and it'll be outstandingly beautiful. customizing the real world to how you like, being in constant contact with people no matter where you are, being able to sit at a table and see someone from the other side of the world sitting across from you... so many possibilities, it's quite exciting

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agsarria t1_irc0w15 wrote

I saw a dude wearing a vr headset down the street the other day, it was pretty hilarious though (Barcelona, Spain)

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Quealdlor t1_irisbre wrote

Yeah, there would need to be a large shift in our culture for people to wear headsets outdoors. Unless they are like normal glasses today. I would certainly prefer to wear slick, lightweight glasses than something like Quest 2. But glasses would need outside processing, because you wouldn't put a 10-watt SoC inside glasses. I think that Apple may have an answer to the problem, we'll see. For sure M2 would not be enough.

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Shelfrock77 OP t1_ir9oeqz wrote

this is what people mean when they say we will turn into drones lol

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neo101b t1_ir9v0yv wrote

After this, the next step is a brain chip or something none intrusive.

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Ominoiuninus t1_irbz2dq wrote

People going to be walking around with the no-clothes AR mod. Shits going to be wild once it hits open market

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Martholomeow t1_ira93i2 wrote

Seems unlikely. Smartphones go in your pocket or bag. No one wants to walk around with a headset, or put one on to answer a call.

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Powerful_Range_4270 t1_irbpw2m wrote

What if you wanta bigger screen without having to get a bigger one. Smartphones are not the final frontier.

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Deformero t1_ir9sxx7 wrote

Yeah, I dont think this headset will be practical to wear all the time. Several hours maybe, after that it's pain in the ass.

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DorolXc t1_irg019h wrote

Look into Mojo lenses, its fairly basic but promising

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esp211 t1_irbxmar wrote

I don't think VR will replace phones... AR definitely. And most people won't buy this crap that weighs a ton and makes you look like a fucking nerd.

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phriot t1_irab7hc wrote

I'm excited for AR displays, but I think having the phone will still be helpful for some time. Offloading processing and communication to the cloud to another device will allow AR displays to be as light and unobtrusive as possible.

What I'm really waiting for is for my phone to completely replace all of my other computing devices. Convergence/Continuum/DEX haven't yet delivered on this promise. Good AR displays may finally solve some of the problems in this area.

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ShadowRazz t1_irb02d1 wrote

Not for another decade. AR is neat but it won't beat the convenience of a smartphone

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kala-umba t1_ir9rdpa wrote

Yeah shitt, online Meetings made even shittier

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Martholomeow t1_ira9cgi wrote

Right now on zoom hardly anyone turns on their camera. Does Zuck really expect people to put on a headset for an hour long meeting with a bunch of corporate drones? The guy is fantasizing and this product will be a flop.

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Redifyle t1_irap0on wrote

Honestly, I think the main problem with that is the meeting/participants itself instead of the technology enabling it.

The main idea behind this sort of tech is that this will make it possible for online meetings to be practically the same as meeting face to face, which saves time, money and resources and thus is very valuable.

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Martholomeow t1_irat7ed wrote

But that’s my point. The issue is the meeting participants, not the technology. No one wants this. It’s just Zuck’s fantasy.

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Redifyle t1_irbtaym wrote

Except for the fact that this is very valuable for anyone who will not have to travel (as much) anymore (which is basically everyone).

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ianandris t1_irbw23g wrote

What problem is this solving that is not solved by zoom?

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Redifyle t1_ircdgc7 wrote

The human need for more realistic interaction

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ianandris t1_ircf2bb wrote

Ah yes. The realistic interaction provided by strapping a device on your face to watch people make bored movements in an unnecessary meeting.

Who are you convincing here?

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goldcoveredroses t1_irdi7dn wrote

if you could make a device that could present a fake reality that could be be indistinguishable from reality

wouldnt people and corporations be interested in it? what if you want to have a face to face conversation with your wife about something important but you are in a military base or you missed your flight? what if your therapist broke his leg and can still give the reassurance of face to face meetings from her own home? what if two businessmen could meet with this device and discuss whatever business plans they have in the setting of a virtual restaurant since one lives in china and the other in saudi arabia?

or instead of travelling on a 12 hour flight you just pop on your headset and when you're done you can go back to your family?

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Quealdlor t1_iristvs wrote

It's true that currently Zoom meeting are usually without cameras being on, only microphones and only when you actually talk.

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Shelfrock77 OP t1_ira9ory wrote

online meetings will fundamentally take place in fdvr. You’ll go to “sleep” and spawn online where you can teleport to different rooms and talk to people whether it’s AI or humans that are also “dreaming” in cyberspace.

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priscilla_halfbreed t1_irbgs3b wrote

The only people who have done this are crazy youtubers who sleep/spend 24 hours or up to a week in minecraft vr/ocarina of time as an experiment and they say it is cool but ultimately left them worse than before

Unless the HMD is drastically changed I don't see this becoming a normal reality for anyone

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kala-umba t1_iramdtd wrote

Yeah sounds like a nice children fantasy to me! It's so uncomfortable to wear all the gadgets that you need all day long.... it's all fun and games but real interactions won't be replaced adequately imo but let's see

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Shelfrock77 OP t1_irao0a4 wrote

AR is proven to reduce transmission in covid-19 because people aren’t touching their phones which are contaminated.

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kala-umba t1_irdumny wrote

LoL what? Pls send me the link! This sounds so ridiculous to me I need to read that source to be able to believe it! How does my phone gets contaminated in the first place? To decontamination it all I have to do is wipe it with a wet cloth and just wash your hands regularly! And I'll still touch my phone anyways to do phone stiff with it ;P

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Quealdlor t1_irit3i3 wrote

Such VR meetings would be certainly more interesting than looking at a 2D screen with Zoom calls. But I wouldn't want to sit for hours with Quest 2 on my head. They must make them more comfortable for using them for longer periods of time.

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cy13erpunk t1_irahguy wrote

looks like absolute trash

gimmicky as fuck

typing with zero feedback? XD

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Cerus- t1_irdk4nq wrote

It looks like it was meant to convey they were using the physical keyboard on their laptop. Except it changed the colour of it so dunno. That looked like a real keyboard and not a vr one.

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tuvok86 t1_iraw7my wrote

omegacringe

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KidKilobyte t1_ir9v9n2 wrote

Gone gargoyle. (Snowcrash)

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TistedLogic t1_irbdl0v wrote

Such an interesting novel. Very much reminded me of the Outer Limits episode on AI.

Edit: found it. S3e8 "Stream of Consciousness" of Outer Limits

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neo101b t1_ir9uxpv wrote

Looks good, as long as I can be a cat.

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priscilla_halfbreed t1_irbgi0a wrote

Call me crazy but I still prefer physical monitors and screens and keyboards

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Quealdlor t1_irit9kf wrote

It will be cheaper than three large high-end monitors. But for now I will keep using monitors.

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FelixTheEngine t1_ira5nsy wrote

I wonder when the first lawsuit over topless mods in the workplace will hit?

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-WASM t1_irazp2d wrote

Mark’s trying so hard to relevant, if he’s not careful he’s going to miss the wood for the trees.

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esp211 t1_irbxeoc wrote

Laggy POS

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iAmMonkee- t1_irc9poy wrote

mixed reality will only be cool if the headset isn’t uncomfortable

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Bierculles t1_irdmpas wrote

IF a metaverse or AR ever takes of it sure as hell is not going to be with whatever the fuck meta is currently doing. This looks like shit.

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Quealdlor t1_irirxu0 wrote

Nice. I hope they will be releasing twice as fast Quests every 18 months, 24 months max. I also hope they will put eye and face tracking soon in every Quest unit. I hope they put Wi-Fi 7 for wireless connection with PCs. I hope they will keep reducing weight and increasing field of view, because current weight is too high and field of view is too narrow. If they will keep doing that, I may buy Quest 4 or so (assuming price stays the same).

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