Not sure why we need a 12 team playoff, when only 2 teams deserve it.

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Which 2?

Georgia / Michigan

Yeah why isn't week 18 in the nfl just the Superbowl, that would be so much more fun.

I wouldn’t even put Michigan in all they beat was Ohio State

Yeah, I means good team never has a bad game /s

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And like, literally every single other team they played.

And Ohio State couldn't even beat Michigan. Wow they just SUCK /s

So let’s watch some power teams whip on some smaller schools, until we ultimately get Georgia and Michigan?

All weak teams. They got embarrassed last year vs Georgia because they rode an easy schedule same this year. Probably won’t even beat TCU

Well, the best teams usually find ways to win even when they have an off day.

I wouldn’t have them in the top 4

It’s because position is determined by polling. Yeah, giving a “lesser” team a shot could mean an upset but that’s what makes sports great. A wild card race in college football would be a nightmare for establishment conferences like the SEC that depend on having a BIG10 challenger to wail on in the championship game.

The year Alabama isn't in the top 4 means we have to expand.

Im sure theres a lot of people like my that are half interested in college football. So when my team (washington) loses one game i stop watching till the apple cup and have no real interest in the bowl game. More teams make it much more interesting for nfl watchers imo

Did you just call schools like OSU, Alabama, Clemson, and Tennessee “smaller schools”?

No, but who would they be playing? Alabama vs. Washington? No thanks.

Penn State is #9

And they played in the big ten too so their record was inflated. Teams like Michigan and Notre Dame play weak schedules and since they were good years ago get ranked higher and then like last year Michigan plays Georgia and it was embarrassing. Now they put two Big ten teams in which is kinda a joke but I guess we get to see another blowout.

Teams that don’t win their division should not be in the four team playoff. Even once expanded to eight, I feel the P5 conference champs should have priority over all other teams.

I disagree. Remember Tennessee vs. Georgia? That felt like a playoff game. Or Alabama vs Tennessee? Loser of those games likely misses a playoff spot with only 4. Expanding dilutes the regular season.

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I have no doubt that Alabama would beat TCU, OSU, and Michigan.

And you earn your chance to show it during the regular season. They didn’t do that.

Edit: need to clarify that the “they” above is bama. They didn’t earn their chance.

As i said, people like me. Not your college football fans but bringing nfl fans over is what this does. I dont know if this helps or hurts college viewership in the long run or if it makes a difference in the first place.

Also 12 team playoffs brings a better chance of upsets happening. I can see where youre coming from though, just giving my pov. And id like to see a pac 12 team in playoffs lmao

Oklahoma twice, tcu (great season) Texas has been irrelevant for what 20 years? The failure is systemic at this point

nah, 8 teams is the sweet spot. Top two teams get a first round bye. This is pure money grab, and danger to amateur athletes. I hope they understand sitting out to make money in the nfl is not a slight in their manhood, or whatever

I philosophically agree, but this year that would mean the teams to pick from for the last 2 spots are Utah, Kansas State, and Clemson (or an independent like Notre Dame).

Clemson you could make an argument for since they only lost twice (both to non-conference opponents), but to propel a 3-loss team into the 4-team cfp doesn’t seem quite right either if there are 1-loss teams with better overall resumes but were not conference champion.

Automatic bid for P5 winners plus 3 at-large for next best teams (either P5 or group of 5) seems reasonable enough though if it expands to 8.

God damnit Utah.

Maybe Michigan should schedule Austin Peay, Southern, Samford, and UT Martin. Those are top flight programs.

>And you earn your chance to show it during the regular season. They didn’t do that.

Alabama lost twice. If Alabama loses once, they get in, probably over Ohio State and TCU. Live by the SEC die by the SEC. SEC teams get the benefit of the doubt, even if they have a loss on their record, but they have to earn that by playing an SEC schedule. But you can't lose twice and still expect to get in. As you say, you earn your chance during the regular season and Alabama didn't do that.

Not sure if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with my post. I literally said that Alabama didn’t prove their worth for the chance to play in the playoff, so it doesn’t matter if I think they’d beat the other playoff teams.

Apologies. Your post made it sound like you didn't think TCU, OSU, and Michigan earned it.

Sort of weird, according to the bookmakers, Georgia is a 6.5 point favorite against OSU, while Mich is a 9.5 point favorite over TCU. You’d think Georgia would be awarded the easier game for being #1.

Let’s go OSU dub

Well OSU may be up for debate more than others. But no, Michigan and TCU have definitely earned it. I think that Alabama would beat them, but bama didn’t earn the opportunity.

I don’t like the “best team” debate. If on field results aren’t going to matter, why even play the games?

Maybe the should or just put up a fight against Georgia so people actually respect your program. I understand you were pretty good 30 years ago just haven’t done anything since but act like you are Alabama

Are you just ignoring that 3/8 of the years of a 4 team playoff were won by a 3 or 4 seed?

I mean it’s literally based of final season standings, what do you mean ‘awarded’.

How insane would a Michigan/OSU final be? I think at least 3 cases of assault, and ~10 cases of drunken disorderly in the stadium alone.

Only 10?

And of course you're a soccball fan. Uh oh, slight gust of wind, better go fall down now sissy.

What does that have to do with anything? No argument you have to try something else? Embarrassing

Sorry, that was far too tame of an estimate. Probably upwards of 30

Okay but what about everyone that's not at the top of the sec and then Ohio state and Michigan?

When everyone else is disqualified by a single loss, it makes the majority of the country care less as there's no chance a strong finish is rewarded

You're embarrassing yourself all through this thread, you being a soccer fan is just humiliation icing on the embarrassment cake.

And yet no one has anything to defend Michigans weak schedule. Kinda funny at this point you can’t even speak about the same sport.

Nah. A 4 team playoff is perfect. Sometimes only 2 teams deserve to be there….other years are more interesting.

No one wants to argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and you have more experience.

You don’t have to worry you aren’t making a compelling argument anyway

OSU would have jumped TCU. Just didn't want to match up two big 10 schools

Georgia v. Michigan for the finals. Double digit win for both in semi-final games. tcu will be biggest loser. This is what should happen, but this has been a silly season so who the hell knows?

Michigan already beat Georgia and that’s a massive rivalry. The committee isn’t going to make them play each other again until the finals. Just imagine the amount of eyeballs on that game

I would watch a playoff game. I won't bother watching most bowl games between two randoms as the outcome literally doesn't matter. Not sure what you said at all.

Good point. I just think that a lot of people are tuning in to these games because they ARE essentially playoff games. If we expand to a 12 team playoff we are missing out on some of what makes CFB great.

amateur athletes HAHA

Or we could have ACTUAL playoff games!

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Certain regular season games have a playoff feel, such as Alabama vs. Tennessee. Winner of that game stays alive for the playoff, and loser is probably going to a bowl game. If we expand to 12 teams we will lose out on that playoff atmosphere during the regular season.

When did Michigan beat Georgia?

He meant in the field

If the top 2 get a bye, what do the other 6 do?

Color me shocked.

That's not necessarily true. In fact more teams will be rewarded for having a strong finish by having a shot in the playoffs to pull off some upsets. Perfect examples of teams capable of this would be Utah and South Carolina this year. It may also incentivise big programs to schedule stronger non conference opponents during the regular season if one loss doesn't jeopardize their chances at a championship.

Edit: Read wrong, my bad. Points still stand even if response isn't necessarily contextually relevant though

I've been saying for years if they want a playoff statem, they need to revamp the conferences. 130 teams competing? And only 4 slots. NFL has 32 teams and 12 team playoff?

Either eliminate a large chunk of these schools, have some relegation where the schools and ornconferences move up or down depending on their performance or expand the playoff system.

Of course this will never happen because of money.

I’m dumb

Whether you believe that certain games feels like a playoff game isn't relevant.

So we are both pro expanded playoff then

8 teams would make too much sense.

Lol no they wouldn’t have. 12-1 vs 11-1 and TCUs close overtime loss was post season against a team they already beat in the regular season. Ohio State got curbstomped by their underdog arch-rivals in their own stadium, in what was there worse home loss to Michigan in nearly fifty years.

It’s a shame Georgia is gonna bury OSU. I don’t think anyone can deal with their D-line for a full 60 minutes and come out on top.

Lol are you dense? Or just a Bama fan hahaha

Ok.

How does that make me a Bama fan? They definitely don’t deserve to be the playoffs.

yea if they can’t get through michigans d-line they sure as hell ain’t getting through georgias

Sure. But then you have to wait till the end of the season to get that. Right now most weeks have a game that for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game.

If Alabama was that good they wouldn’t have lost twice. I’m not so sure they would beat any of the teams in the playoff. Hell they could barely beat a backup QB Texas team by 1 point.

Conference championships will mean more if they’re an auto-bid for the playoffs. As we saw this past weekend, didn’t even matter for TCU. KSU would’ve had a shot to play for a natty in a future iteration.

Regular season games will still matter. Yes, they won’t matter quite as much, and as someone that loves college football, that’s a bummer. But as someone who is a fan of a team who would make the final 4 probably never, now I feel my team will have a shot to make an expanded playoff. Anything can happen in a real playoff.

Game on

Tbf, our top 3 running backs were hurt and we played a LB at RB.

Not saying we’ll win, but time to rest up and get things together might help.

If I’m not mistaken, in the new playoff format the six top ranked conference champions get auto bids. The remain six spots go to the next six top ranked teams.

Let’s not confuse the losses with “not being good.” Their 2 losses were on the road by a combined 4 points—both on the final plays of the game. They’re a good football team that was beat by good football teams playing in the toughest conference.

Again, those losses prevented their chance at the playoff (as it should), but to leave it at losses=bad is misguided.

They’re a good team, definitely. I said they’re not that good where a reasonable person would have no doubt that they’d beat all the playoff teams other than Georgia. Those are two very different things. They lost to LSU and Tennessee, of course they could lose to any of the playoff teams. They clearly didn’t establish themselves as a dominant team. Like I said, barely beat a shorthanded Texas team. This years Bama team isn’t the same as years’ past.

Agreed. Just give me 6 conference champions where top 2 get a bye.

Wayyy under lmao

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You didn’t watch the historic Michigan-Georgia rivalry game?

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Am I the only one who figured they'd still try to get Alabama in?

Think you’re being a bit disingenuous here. Whilst I agree that OSU got dog walked at home, it was against the second best team in the country and I feel like this is being heavily understated in your comment. A loss against Michigan is definitely better than a loss against Kansas State and the committee knows this.

I’m confident that the committee put OSU 4th to avoid an inconference match-up in the semis. Had Michigan been #1, OSU would’ve been #3 without question.

The committee did the same thing last year when #1 ranked Georgia lost by 17 to the 4th seed Alabama in Georgia. Bama moved up to #1 and somehow Georgia still managed to outrank an undefeated Cincinnati.

NFL is actually 14 teams now. #1 seed has a bye and the other 6 in each conference play to whittle it down to 4.

I did get some joy from Saban begging. Nothing against them. They’re just stupid and I hate em lol

A hello, obviously

They curb stomped a top ten Penn state in their house as well.

The fact that two big ten teams made it is bonkers.

lol, I meant top 6, but a bracket of 8 would be easy too

Good wins are better than bad losses

Let be real, Georgia could beat some NFL teams this year.

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They aren’t holding a 13th data point loss against TCU when Ohio State wouldn’t have even earned the right to get the 13th data point. If USC won, Ohio State wouldn’t have gotten in.

I kind of agree, but only if the conference championships are decided by the 2 highest-ranked teams in each conference.

Texas went to the national championship in 2010

Absolutely, when I saw Alabama was ranked #6 I had a feeling they were going to try and sneak them in, glad I'm wrong

I hate when people make this kind of comment. That’s like saying the best HS team in the country could beat some college teams. It’s such a hilarious and ignorant thought. Even the worst NFL team would curb stomp Georgia or the “best” college team any given season…

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Literally the most stupid thing anyone can say and demonstrates your lack of knowledge in regards to CFB and the NFL

Right because those NFL teams are comprised of the best college players. Unless GA has a full squad that is all going in the first 2 rounds, that is an idiotic thing to say

This is the way I would prefer it as well. Win your conference if you want to play for the national championship.

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So did we, Corum was out we converted a 2nd string LB named Mullings to RB 3 after Edwards and Stokes. We had a freshman at TE in for All and our fastest WR was out. Most of the failure of your team this year came from your DC not keeping a safety in the secondary, and your QB folding like a deck of cards under pressure.

usc already had a loss though.

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I think the picks were right. The Buckeyes laid a brick at home and got in the back door, but only one loss and to number 2. Bama's second loss kept them out, otherwise they would have squirmed in yet again over TCU. Committee didn't want OSU/Michigan in the first round.

Georgia is the one to beat of course, but the Buckeyes will be very dangerous. With a month, they will be healthy for the first time in weeks and highly motivated to erase the embarrassment of the home loss. I don't see a world though where TCU wins against Michigan.

Wouldn't be surprised to see an OSU/Michigan rematch in the title game.

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Go Blue!!!

>That felt like a playoff game

That's the problem. When you lose a playoff game, your season is over. The fans stop caring. Potential revenue drops. Having a playoff game so early in the season is not a good business model for either profits or enjoyability.

Friday and Saturday results would seem to disagree with that statement.

If you want cfb to be the nfl just watch the nfl

Ahhh! I meant best teams in the country… which is Michigan and Georgia.

problem is that CFB wants to be NFL, yet hold on to a kinda CFB tradition. so yeah.

Again, there has never been an upset in college football in championship games. I mean chalk is all that happens.

Play the games. There is crap for inter-conference play to get a real feeling for who is the best. Sure, Georgia and Michigan look really strong this year, but I’d rather see a system with all 5 major conference champions get in and 7 others.

I like upsets also, but I don’t think we should add more teams just hoping for chaos. I guarantee that for every upset we have there will be multiple blowouts. And just because an upset happens, it does not mean that one team is better than another.

It should be 14 teams. Since with a 12 team playoff there’s a point where only three teams remain. Who gets the bye and the extra rest?

How will they handle it when only three teams remain?

But you just said that the “best teams find a way to win”.

I’ll take 12 teams and some dud games to give every power 5 conference champion a seat at the table. Was a “worthless” weekend of football when the 4 in the playoff was going to be the same whether Georgia, Michigan or TCU won or lost. Makes the conference championships mean something to be playing for a berth and likely bye.

I guess if someone besides Georgia, and Michigan (who found a way to win every game they played) wins the title I will admit defeat.

> Makes the conference championships mean something to be playing for a berth and likely bye.

Conference championships did mean something.
USC had a playoff berth if only they had won. TCU wins their conference championship and there is no doubt they are in, losing three their bid into question.

What? Do you not kniw how a 12 teqm bracket works? There will never be 3 teams remaining.

College football talent is not evenly distributed between divisions. We frequently see instances where two of the best four teams happen to be in the same division. The regular season loser shouldn't be excluded if they are better than the conference champions from other weaker conferences.

So glad we knocked USC out of the playoffs fuck USC