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HeyPierreComeOutHere t1_ixp17lo wrote

Ford Bronco owners have been on a ride ever since they bought their vehicle lmao

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AyBruhBee t1_ixp22l0 wrote

Atleast their vehicle is worth 4x its msrp lmao thats one expensive bomb

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oldbastardbob t1_ixp4gnv wrote

We'll have "unexploded Bronco" puns just like the "unexploded Pinto" puns back in the last century.

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Legosmiles t1_ixp6w9r wrote

Have we forgotten that the Explorer was for a time the Exploder in the 90s?

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cyrusm t1_ixqo3d5 wrote

Make sure you don't light up them fire-stones with your exploder

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cyrusm t1_ixqnzza wrote

They made a reference to that in some family comedy I watched with my kids the other day. I think it was the movie Rat Race? Had to stop and explain the joke, because from their perspective a car just exploded for no reason, with no context.

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Doctor_Bubbles t1_ixpapj4 wrote

Article says Bronco Sport, the crazy markups and resells are on the Bronco.

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Joejoecornrow t1_ixpy6s5 wrote

Remember the vw “ thing “. If it was rear ended it would burst into flame more often than not.

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Garglygook t1_ixqkobz wrote

>Remember the vw “ thing “. If it was rear ended it would burst into flame more often than not.

So did the Ford Pinto. It came out in a lawsuit that the bean counters at Ford said to recall it would cost more than just dealing with the lawsuits which is why it took so long to get them off the road or fixed. I remember that now every time they finally issue a recall.

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notcaffeinefree t1_ixpecrz wrote

The Bronco Sport (what's recalled) is not at all the same as the Bronco (not recalled). The Sport is built off the Escape chassis while the actual Bronco uses a ladder frame construction.

They are literally two entirely different vehicles that happen to share the same name.

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xxFrenchToastxx t1_ixq3lf0 wrote

Ford marketing team skipped over the 80's history lesson. It was a shitty naming scheme then, still shitty now.

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JoeFortitude t1_ixq3sfa wrote

Why isn't the Bronco Sport the Bronco II?!? Because I can't help but to call it that! The Sport should be a package on the Bronco, not the name. The Bronco II was just sitting there, waiting to be revived, but NOOOOOOO, Ford marketing wanted to do a shit job with naming.

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asphaltaddict33 t1_ixpa8rk wrote

The bronco sport is recalled, not the bronco. Reading the article helps

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Ok_Anywhere_1791 t1_ixpali5 wrote

So not a bronco, but yet... a bronco.

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yellowteabag t1_ixpd7sz wrote

the bronco sport is not a "sport" trim of the bronco. they really are completely different vehicles.

here is what they look like

the bronco sport is a family oriented unibody SUV with a tiny 3-cylinder 1.5L engine and the bronco is an off-terrain body-on-frame vehicle with a much larger engine.

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happyscrappy t1_ixpirod wrote

> an off-terrain body-on-frame vehicle with a much larger engine.

Somewhat larger. 2.3L base. 2.7L available. And in the Bronco Sport: 1.5L, 2.0L available.

Really hard to tear down people on here for a stupid thing Ford did.

Naming the Bronco Sport that was designed to create a confusion (association) with the other Bronco. Ford is reaping what they sowed.

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KonigSteve t1_ixpc32g wrote

I mean they're completely different vehicles on different chassis etc

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Ok_Anywhere_1791 t1_ixpcnh1 wrote

Then maybe Ford shouldn't have called them both bronco

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KonigSteve t1_ixqfcq8 wrote

I agree, but that doesn't change that people reading the article would've helped.

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blankityblank_blank t1_ixozo42 wrote

Possibility of leaking fuel injectors allowing fuel to accumulate outside of the combustion chamber.

Definitely not good.

At least they reduce engine output automatically if pressure drops are detected.

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HolyAndOblivious t1_ixpaq39 wrote

15 years ago I used to work for GM. Certain models would catch fire after hard braking because it would cause the fluids to escape the engine.

Turns out it was not just hard breaking and some houses caught on fire.

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Black_Moons t1_ixpkddm wrote

Dammit Jim, its an INTERNAL combustion engine. How many times do I have to tell you to keep the combustion INTERNAL!?

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stusic t1_ixqc5lp wrote

Well, they will reduce engine output after the fix...

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aloochaatfetish t1_ixp3xe8 wrote

A times B times C equals X

Apparently X is more than the cost of the recall

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TheCrimsonDagger t1_ixpfykh wrote

Yeah recalls only happen when the projected cost of lawsuits is more than the cost of the recall.

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curiosgreg t1_ixr31bp wrote

Former Automotive engineer. This just isn’t true. Recalls are triggered by the government in many cases. I once had my personal car’s sun visor recalled because when any fault is present in over X amount of vehicles it triggers a mandatory recall. Similarly, they must recall anything overtly dangerous if im recalling my experience with Fiat-Chrysler’s law department correctly.

Ps. This system was also Tesla’s saving grace because they were so low volume for so long. Now, not so much.

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nattyd t1_ixpcsgk wrote

ICE cars are 60x more likely to catch fires than EVs, which is the complete opposite of public perception:

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a38225037/how-much-you-should-worry-about-ev-fires/

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elijahhhhhh t1_ixrixzg wrote

ICE engines have also been commonplace for like 100 years give or take. EVs are just starting to get real traction. Whole "Devil you know" type deal. I've been guilty of putting more money in a shit box car than it's even worth because I know what's wrong with it and can live with those problems. With a new (to me) shit box, I don't know all the problems and quirks.

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hcwhitewolf t1_ixpn77q wrote

That may be true, but you have some semblance of a chance to put out an engine fire with a fire extinguisher. Aint nothing stopping a battery fire and the whole vehicle will be fully involved in like 20 seconds.

You get in a serious wreck in an EV where the battery is compromised and you are trapped, you are just 100% fucked.

Edit: EV simps out hard today. Battery fires are very aggressive and fire departments have been struggling to extinguish them with full equipment. You can't deny that there is an inherent danger to EV battery fires. You can simp all you want for them, but it's a challenge that will need to be overcome with more and more EVs on the road.

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Big-Beat_Manifesto_ t1_ixp0x47 wrote

Why would Elon musk do this?

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GotAHandyAtAMC t1_ixp5io1 wrote

Ford can’t just send out a software update?

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robbak t1_ixpwv2j wrote

That's mostly what they are doing - a software update to throw a code and force the car into limp-home mode when it detects a fuel leak. They are also adding drain pipe to direct leaking fuel away from likely ignition sources.

They are not replacing the dodgy fuel injectors that are the cause of the problem.

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Ill-Poet-3298 t1_ixq85vz wrote

> They are not replacing the dodgy fuel injectors that are the cause of the problem.

That seems... short sighted.

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EmperorsarusRex t1_ixp3wt2 wrote

You know what it stands for right? Fix It Again Tony

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J4rndt t1_ixp46cu wrote

Rusty Shackleford would’ve never let this happen.

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pimpbot666 t1_ixp96r0 wrote

That's the 1.5 liter 3 cylinder engines. Long story short, cracked fuel injector leaks, make vapors that can ignite.

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londons_explorer t1_ixpnmnb wrote

Is this fixed with a software update like Tesla?

Or will 634,000 people have to take the day off work to take their car to a garage?

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Sentryion t1_ixpp2bo wrote

They have to take their car to a garage. They will probably get a loaner but since there’s so many recall they will probably get Uber credits

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Shris t1_ixpaww6 wrote

Damn Elon and Tesla at it again.

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robbak t1_ixpx3ry wrote

> update vehicle software to detect whether a fuel injector is cracked and provide a dashboard message to alert drivers.

> "If a pressure drop in the fuel rail is detected, engine power will automatically be reduced to minimize any risk, while also allowing customers to drive to a safe location and stop the vehicle and arrange for service," Ford added.

> Dealers will also install a tube draining fuel from the cylinder head and away from hot surfaces and check for excessive fuel odor near the top of the engine.

So, forcing the vehicle into limp-home mode if it detects a leak, and adding a pipe. Replacing the dodgy fuel injectors isn't part of the recall.

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Xikun t1_ixqjzhl wrote

I thought only teslas caught fire

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chzygorditacrnch t1_ixpaipq wrote

I had an ex that had an explorer and it caught on fire while it was turned off and parked

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mkultra50000 t1_ixqixla wrote

This must be Elon Musks fault.

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afishda t1_ixp7hhj wrote

Might as well rename the bronco to land Rover basically the same vehicle with shottyier build quality.

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iamkeerock t1_ixp8gtd wrote

Wrong Bronco, this is the Bronco Sport, which is a redressed Ford Escape capitalizing on the Ranger based bigger Bronco’s popularity.

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afishda t1_ixpbrq6 wrote

Pos made by cheap foreign labor in a different country, that could care less about the quality of the foreign cars they are making for mear pesos on the dollar as pay.

That is the current bronco in a nutshell corporate watering down.

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vid_icarus t1_ixqcas1 wrote

My last car was a ford explorer and the amount of recalls on it were really staggering compared to any other car I’d owned before or since. I really loved driving that thing but the amount of problems it had, and the brand continues to have, will probably prevent me from ever driving a cord again.

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mym3go t1_ixraygp wrote

You mean to tell me it's not just electric vehicles that catch fire?! 🤔

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santa_cruz_shredder t1_ixp6cd5 wrote

Fixed with an over the air update, not news... Wait this isn't a bullshit article about a Tesla "recall"?

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kinkykusco t1_ixqpt13 wrote

>Dealers will also install a tube draining fuel from the cylinder head and away from hot surfaces and check for excessive fuel odor near the top of the engine.

Super impressive that Ford can install tubing thru an OTA update.

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Southpaw73 t1_ixph4fk wrote

I wonder if it’ll be an OTA

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Kangastan t1_ixpkmp3 wrote

And they’re not even electric. ICE cars are the fire hazards.

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LiliNotACult t1_ixpphbr wrote

And that kids is why I only like Honda & Toyota. I don't give a fuck if something is American made or not. I care if it was engineered well and won't break down on me.

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madmanmike3 t1_ixqbbsu wrote

I bought a 2018 Accord in 2021. It had 3 recalls BEFORE I bought it. None of them were near as critical as this.

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EdwardScissorHands11 t1_ixq423t wrote

I'm not all that huge of a guy and neither Tacoma or Ridgeline were even remotely comfortable. This is the only reason I have a Ford and I'm not delighted about it... But it's been great for 10k miles so far.

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Spelunkie t1_ixpy3wk wrote

Their accounting department probably figured the 632,000 vehicles recalled was cheaper than paying out settlements and court fees.

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MrPloppyHead t1_ixq17zu wrote

these people just forgot to pay for their "vehicle don't catch fire" subscription.

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processedmeat t1_ixq6xie wrote

Seems we are getting a new recall monthly.

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Andreomgangen t1_ixqfnl4 wrote

Was sure it would be battery related when I saw the headline, is it wrong to say I am pleasantly surprised.

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Nonbinary_Tea t1_ixqrhwu wrote

Fuck. That's me. Anyone know how recalls work ?

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Relative_Concern_568 t1_ixsre6w wrote

Go to the dealer, drop the car off and they fix it for free. I’d certainly make an appointment and if you’re lucky they’ll have a loaner for you. It’s pretty easy and I can’t think of a single new car that I’ve had in the last 10-15 years that hasn’t had a least one recall of some sort. No biggie but, yeah, it’s annoying.

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LazloHollifeld t1_ixr4kfd wrote

The part I liked was they said there was no need for customers to stop driving them or parking them indoors. The risk for fire after the vehicle had been turned off is minimal, there has only been 15 fires and 3 had included secondary damage to structures.

Twenty percent chance of a structure fire seems a little more than minimal.

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d4nigirl84 t1_ixrah4g wrote

So weird. I read this post after reading another about Fight Club…

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Mausy5043 t1_ixrm86a wrote

Hang on... Tesla's calling...

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deltadovertime t1_ixsivra wrote

People were shitting on Tesla’s recall neglecting to mention a software fix was only required. Don’t think you will fix this with a software update.

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Relative_Concern_568 t1_ixssbq5 wrote

Ford sold 91,903 Bronco Sport in 2022. (From Jan - Oct 2022). Ford sold 26,965 Bronco Sport in 2021. That means that there are approximately 118,868 that are in the scope of this recall. Assuming all 15 fires were in fact the result of faulty injectors, .013% of broncos burned because of this issue.

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saanity t1_ixqqn47 wrote

Ford has to have the world record in must vehicle recalls. I don't know why anyone would buy a Ford.

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heckdditor t1_ixq7ebu wrote

Payed Wall - FUCK YOU!

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Ovrl t1_ixp50f5 wrote

It’s bronco sports and Ford Escapes. It’s not a big it’s a feature.

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bordercolliesforlife t1_ixp5802 wrote

Ford = found on rubbish dump.

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DirtyPolecat t1_ixpbgsc wrote

Ford is an American brand. We don't say "rubbish".

The correct term is "Found On Road Dead" or "Fix Or Repair Daily".

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Hero_Charlatan t1_ixozws4 wrote

Whoa whoa whoa hold up. According to Reddit only Tesla has vehicle recalls?

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pirate_in_the_puddin t1_ixp24ec wrote

“Maybe if I defend Elon on Reddit, he will let me suck his dick someday”

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1015267 t1_ixp3elu wrote

Maybe if I suck big oils dick Twitter will recognize me as the hero I am putting down the EV leader

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InvalidUserNemo t1_ixp47ec wrote

Irony is you making this comment while we can see your comment history defending the guy so many times in the past week alone.

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1015267 t1_ixp4jth wrote

Oh cool? Do my biases make my statements unfactual?

Also yeee Teslas are dope and over hated

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InvalidUserNemo t1_ixp4p4b wrote

Yes, actually. Reread that comment for a second time and explain to me the part where they are “sucking big oils dick” by being critical of Musk Stans.

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1015267 t1_ixp6hol wrote

The part where Ford is recalled over half a million vehicles due to fire risks and losing money on every EV they sell. Yet this is the only article about it. And pointing that out somehow makes you a Musk stan lol

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llIicit t1_ixp77th wrote

It took Tesla 17 years before they turned a profit. To this day they still lose money on every car they sell.

The only reason the are profitable is because they sell emissions credits. But once other manufacturers (like ford) figure out how to make EV’s like they do ICE’s, they will probably be back to where they were before.

Edit: they blocked me lmao

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1015267 t1_ixp7u1h wrote

Lol suure bud.

  1. Tesla has been turning massive profits for multiple years

  2. that’s already a moved goal post. The last decade has been “just wait until legacy manufacturers enter the market”. But they can’t even turn a profit on EVs. Let’s also just go ahead and ignore that Tesla is one of the primary reasons battery prices have even been driven low enough for the legacy manufacturers to enter the market.

I’m done arguing with you since you don’t even posses a basic grasp of the EV market

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InvalidUserNemo t1_ixp6x50 wrote

You can’t possibly be struggling with this. Pirates comment makes no claims about the article, EVs or Ford’s abilities to repair them. You made the claim that anything critical of Musk or his Stans means they’re anti-EV and pro Big Oil. You pulled that outta nowhere and that is the comment I’m trying to say is not factual based on the comment you replied to for this thread.

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1015267 t1_ixp7z7z wrote

No you made the claim that pointing out the hypocrisy was musk staning. When pointing out basic facts offends you so much your bias to traditional oil becomes obvious.

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pirate_in_the_puddin t1_ixpbtxn wrote

You’re an absolute embarrassment of a human being. There is literally no reason to put as much effort as you have, into defending Elon fuckin Musk of all people.

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SeparateAd5914 t1_ixpmwga wrote

Now you listen to me you piece of shit. Do you know this guy? Why speak to him like that? Some ppl actually don’t give a fuck about musk but if every time someone defends of his company you shits bring him up then Ofcourse it will seem like people are defending him. You are extremely obsessed.

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bigsbyBiggs t1_ixp39ri wrote

You're literally commenting this on a reddit post not about Tesla recalls. Try again?

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Bensemus t1_ixs7k0b wrote

They are making fun of /r/technology. This sub loves Tesla recall posts and they are reposted a bunch.

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Hero_Charlatan t1_ixp6f2d wrote

Why do millennials love the word “literally”

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dejus t1_ixp74s1 wrote

I’m literally not a millennial and I literally love the word

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bigsbyBiggs t1_ixp7cue wrote

I don't know why they do. I'll ask the next time I'm talking to one.

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hammerra10 t1_ixp5kpj wrote

This was the first thing that went into my head

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