Submitted by n1ght_w1ng08 t3_yswi4d in technology
FnWaySheGoes89 t1_iw1g4jf wrote
Yea pretty sure every government spies on not only its own citizens but those in other countries too. This isn’t new lol
Pontus_Pilates t1_iw1k5mr wrote
That's a great attempt to say the Indian government is not doing anything unusual.
Just because most countries have some intelligence capabilities doesn't mean they are all equal. Not every country is watching its citizens in real time straight from the ISP, without even needing to ask for access.
Azraelontheroof t1_iw25yw6 wrote
I think Snowden proved that most countries from the US to Europe are. It is a certainty that countries such as China and North Korea do and even countries such as Australia are involved in surveillance of their own people and others. You are right that it should not be trivialised but you are wrong if you think that this development in unique as it means that they have won the information war.
SHADY_LOPAN t1_iw2kejm wrote
Don't bring your facts to a feelings fight pal!
listentothelynx t1_iw2fsgn wrote
Australia also doesn’t have a bill of rights in its federal constitution
RedOrchestra137 t1_iw2k32e wrote
real time monitoring would mean the device is sending out a constant stream of video/audio data. i'd think this is something people can notice pretty quickly if they keep an eye on their network traffic. also, to get a device into a state where it does this, it would need to be hacked into already, or come with pre installed spyware. you're not getting video data from someone just browsing the web. and besides, if they're using an encrypted protocol the isp will only be able to tell the websites they've been visiting, unless they can somehow get a hold of the encryption key for that session.
what they could do, is restrict access to sites using ssl encryption, so they are forced to use an unencrypted protocol and then they'd be able to see everything that gets sent back and forth, but that seems like a lot hassle for some info about the average citizen. if they are suspicious and start targetting individuals though, then i think it becomes very hard to stop it, cause they can start attaching spyware to replies from the isp and everything probably. this is why you don't want your government to collaborate with isp's. as an average citizen though, i wouldn't worry about it too much. maybe use a good and trusted vpn server, but otherwise it's not worth losing sleep over.
i say that only cause it's gotten really bad for me in the past, but now it just feels like i wasted a lot of time on something that most likely won't have any real impact on my life anyway.
YaAbsolyutnoNikto t1_iw1yf4y wrote
r/whataboutism
786swt t1_iw2a3z2 wrote
"that's whataboutism dude"
murderer to burglar when he points out how he is literally killing a person, which is so much worse than stealing a couch.
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Fantastic-Bus-8728 t1_iw1h3j2 wrote
Yeap each country has its own security and defence and always likes to know more about other countries inside information through these kinda spying software so that each country makes sure they are ahead of others in ways
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