steve329 t1_izzzwxg wrote
Reply to comment by kveggie1 in Tesla Semi 500-Mile Trip Video Shows Truck May Have Had a Lower GVW Than 81,000 Lb by Ssider69
Exactly. Especially when there's a massive incentive for Elon to show the details... that is, if it came close to achieving what he claims.
Ancient_Persimmon t1_j03mb6a wrote
What's the incentive to lie if these things are now out in the wild and this will be easily verifiable?
Also, Tesla haven't ever mentioned the weight of the tractor, so I don't know where there would be a lie. The 82k lb GVWR is an industry standard, nothing specific to them.
steve329 t1_j03suw4 wrote
I'm not saying he's lying. I'm saying he has an incentive to provide details if he's telling the truth. If this all does what musk claims then it will be a potential game changer and he should be shouting that from the rafters. The fact that he's not giving any detail (which he has repeatedly done in the past for his cars) is highly suspect. And, no, none of these specs are "easily verifiable". That's what this thread is all about.
Ancient_Persimmon t1_j03tmow wrote
What part of the truck isn't easily verifiable when there's customer vehicles being delivered as we speak? You can read the tare weight off the trailer on any Semi you find on the road.
This isn't a Musk thing, it's Tesla, I don't know why people keep referring to a company as "he" here.
It is a game changer, hence the extremely high interest in the product, what specifically are you skeptical about?
steve329 t1_j03twd7 wrote
You're saying this as if he's delivered several vehicles. He's only delivered one. If this stuff is so easily verified you should have no trouble providing a link. I'll wait.
Ancient_Persimmon t1_j03v5uz wrote
What stuff? They showed a fully laden truck in two separate videos, one running up Donner Pass, the other doing an SF-SD run to showcase its range. Is it the range, the acceleration, the efficiency that you're disputing?
Where are you getting your idea that only one was delivered when there were 5 of them at the event and several have been spotted in various places?
And why do you keep referring to Tesla as "he"?
I know you want to hate for the sake of hate, but if you're going to shout conspiracy, at least point out what exactly you think is wrong.
steve329 t1_j03w6zx wrote
You know exactly who I'm talking about when I say he. You're not arguing in good faith and I'm not interested in having an argument with a Tesla fanboy anyway. I can't prove a negative either. If you have proof of all of those things "he" said--the very detailed specs that every other semi manufacturer provides-- feel free to post them. I'm sure the reddit community will be happy and your investment in $tsla will finally seem like a good idea.
Ancient_Persimmon t1_j03ypjk wrote
You keep dodging the question as to what exactly you're not believing and you're accusing me of not arguing in good faith?
Tesla is the company that's making this truck, I'm just telling you to stop anthropomorphicizing it. We don't say GM is a her because Mary Barra runs it, or Ford is a he because Jim Farley's at the helm. Musk is repeating the official specs, just as they would do the same.
The specs are:
500 miles range Tri motors Less than 2kWh/mile efficiency 0-60 in 5s unladen/20s at full load 82k lb GVWR 1+ MW charging (10-80% in 30 mins) 1KV electrical architecture Able to maintain hwy speed up a 5% grade
Which are you disputing?
The only things left open ended are exact pricing, power and the weight of the tractor, which are things we'll know once they're thick on the ground. Pricing is irrelevant at the moment, since all of them are going to the large fleet operators that put orders in. It's also kind of vague since those fleet operators are buying Superchargers and Megapacks alongside the trucks in a package.
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