Dahmer's got legs.

Those poor people streaming Rings of Power

laughing my arse off at NCIS' episode count

Ryan Murphy Productions is having a banner year!

Oh you

Mark Harmon struck gold there. 20 years of just glaring at people and drinking coffee.

> The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power 966M

> House Of The Dragon 907M

Your daily reminder reddit is not real life.

House of the Dragon airs on HBO and On Demand. So it is definitely getting more viewers than ROP

Prime has 125 million more subscribers than HBO Max. Netflix, then Prime, then Disney, and then HBO. You can expect the popularity of the shows to go in that order even if one seems like it has more buzz or acclaim.

Oh so that gives ROP an even bigger advantage

People shit on the Disney+ approach, but it by all accounts is working super well:

1. identify several things that worked in a previous popular/nostalgic product
2. make a 3/5 soft reboot/rehash of the things that worked that is not challenging or controversial and has a few high points. You want the entire audience to feel "whelmed enough" by the leftovers--taking risks doesn't get you there.
3. Reduce the budget through sometimes crappier VFX (She-Hulk), smaller scale (Hawkeye), or less main actor screentime (the whole first part of Hocus Pocus 2 reduced the screentime of the Sanderson Sisters dramatically, and they were only paid a reported $4.5 in aggregate).

Disney spent about $40 million on Hocus Pocus 2, where the original, adjusted for inflation, cost about $60 million. They have to be pretty happy that it is beating House of the Dragon AND Lord of the Rings.

I'm glad yall celebrating Dahmer's life and hobby.

This was my daily reminder that you don't understand how ratings work.

Also Lord of the rings has a much shorter barrier of entry than Game of Thrones does

Yet meta doesn’t

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The controversy was excellent marketing. Suggesting that watching a television show makes you a bad person is basically a dare.

So the top two shows are about people eating (or trying to eat) kids.

Cool.

Rings of Power will also appeal to families much more because it's not hardcore with sex and language like HOTD.

We used to call this Direct-to-VHS and Disney aced that, too.

So? Streaming-wise, ROP still does better, that's the point of the comparison.

Nielsen cover only US which can be seen in the articles too but some HBO shills keep saying same bullshit like yours every time Nielsen report is shared. Also if their shows got more buzz they would get more subscribers too but social media isnt real life as it is said.

With your logic then expensive Disney shows keep getting beaten by cheaper Netfliz shows.

Isn't that just how Disney built their empire?

Rehash popular or nostalgic things, deny all copyright expiration, buy all competitors.

Even Mickey Mouse is just a rehashed Oswald the Rabbit who is just a rehashed Felix the Cat (because a rabbit was more unique than the cats on the market at the time).

And smacking them upside the head.

It’s absolutely not that.

The series spends less time focusing on Dahmer then you’d think. It never tries to humanize him or make you empathetic towards him. The series makes it clear that he’s a monster through and through. So much so that the man that kills him in prison is briefly shown as a calm, reasonable man, wrestling with what he feels is a moral and holy obligation to do what the justice system failed to do.

2/3 of the series focuses more on the impact of Dahmer’s horrific acts, the failures of law enforcement and the justice system that allowed it to go on, and the fact that Dahmer hunted people of color largely unnoticed. It even takes the time to give the audience information about the victims, to reinforce that these were people with lives, aspirations, and people that cared about them.

The guy that killed Dahmer was just another murderer in prison for similar reasons. Dude wasn't religious.

The guy who killed him was a schizophrenic who killed someone else at the same time he killed Dahmer

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How?

It’s a show based on footnotes in the silmarillion or whatever, versus the popular tits and dragons show. And the HOTD first ep is a lot more of an easy step into the world than the LOTR first ep.

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This is true. However I’m talking about this dramatization and how the people are portrayed.

Correct. But I’m talking about this dramatization and how the this person is portrayed, in context to the larger narrative.

in his freezer

People really love watching garbage, huh.

Yes RoP is -20% from max and HotD -10%.

Prime has more subscribers but it's not because everyone uses Prime for tv shows or movies, it has more services, lmao are people in this sub so clueless how this shit works? I love how people talk with such confidence when they are not proving anything.

Rop having that many views just shows how bad taste most people have. The writing of the show is terrible and anyone cam see it if they actually think about it a little.

They say it every time I wonder whether they really don't know Nielsen is only about US or they know...

Sadly hocus pocus 2 moved away from this plot line for the sequel so no

Just wait, soon we’ll find out that Zuck is a serial killer, and nobody will be surprised.

A lot more people have watched the Lord of the Rings than have watched Game of Thrones. Lord of the Rings is also generally recognized as fine for families, not a lot of parents are settling in with their middle schoolers to watch gratuitous sex on House of Dragon.

Those two things make the IP a lot more approachable to more people.

Do you have some counter report that better gauges interest? Or are you just mad that numbers don’t fit your desired narrative?

Edit: Jimmies so rustled that he blocked me lol

Followed by Rings of Power. Not that you'd know, mind you, another post about Amazon being secretive with the numbers has thousands of upvotes by now.

People arent shitting on it because it doesn't work. They are shitting on it because it makes horrible shows and movies.

This is ignoring linear, so no it really doesn't mean that.

You must have replied to wrong person otherwise you have a clear problem with reading comprehension because what I said is based on a literal fact unlike the nonsense the person I replied to said.

The Reddit hive mind won’t acknowledge this

It's seasonal though. Hotd will have longevity like GOT still does

1. HOTD is not a show for kids and families

2. The amount of written material on HOTD and the Second Age of LOTR is about the same. HOTD is based off a fake history book and it really doesn’t have a full narrative and when it does it contradicts itself with varying perspectives. Also the Silmarillion is mostly a first age work. Second Age is more defined in short stories, extensive appendices and materials written by Tolkien and what we know in the books when they talk about it

But there's also non-max HBO

And there are prime subscribers who don't watch TV at all.

Nielson only counts the streams from TV's if I'm not wrong and not even all of them. Anything on mobile or notebooks isn't being counted in their data , not to mention HBO own views which are 2m viewers I think? That's 120m minutes watched missing that we know off and everything mobile. I wager everything combined leads to HoD having way higher numbers

He told the guards that God told him to do it. Sounds pretty fucking religious to me.

I agree with your points but Hawkeye was expensive. Think it was the second most expensive Marvel show.

Plus, all the sanctimonious pearl clutching and tongue clucking in the comments makes people want to watch it out of spite. Sure had that effect on me. If there's one thing that pisses most people who aren't terminally online off, it's high horse moralizing from people on the internet.

See: pretty much any internet "boycott" ever.

That isn't how neilsen ratings work, dingus. Those numbers aren't including people watching on HBO max or other non-TV devices.