TIFU by fighting two guys over a car that isn't even mine.

Submitted by Derpguycool t3_116vebf in tifu

Sitting in a Walmart parking lot, and I hear the sound of glass breaking. Looking around I see two guys messing with a with a fairly nice looking car. Nothing super expensive just above average. I notice that they have broken the rear passenger window , and are now reaching inside. Keep in mind, this is a normal weather Midwest day , not crazy hot so I knew they weren't trying to get a baby out. I see them open the door and start looking through all the stuff in the car. So I get out and try to figure out what they're doing. All I did was ask , and immediately they threw one of those glass breaker emergency things. The bigger of the two starts to walk over towards me and is yelling at me to look away and F-off. Without even thinking, because now in hindsight I know it's a stupid decision, I say quit messing with my friend's car. Mind you, I never met the owner of this car. The second one puts their hand to their pocket and starts to walk over. And the second he got with in range, I clocked him in the head. He went down, but his friend was able to immediately knock me down. From there it was downhill, I don't have much fighting experience, but I was taller than both of them so I had some advantage, but still ended up getting my ass handed to me I was able to stay up long enough for a couple of stereotypical dad-bod looking people to come over and get them off me. After that I just left. Got myself cleaned up with a little bit of help from my brother , and now a few hours later I decided making a post on Reddit would be the best choice. I only have a broken finger, but hindsight tells me that maybe I shouldn't fight for someone else's car.

TL:DR, Don't fight people over a car that isnt even yours. It hurts.

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fliguana t1_j98qwll wrote

You did an honorable thing

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Derpguycool OP t1_j98xie6 wrote

I still don't know, all I did was get by ass whooped, for someone I didn't even know. Not to assume anything but, the car was nice enough that they probably had good insurance.

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zanraptora t1_j99173b wrote

Doesn't make it any less right. Splint and ice that finger king.

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Derpguycool OP t1_j9959yp wrote

About to go to bed, haven't slept with a broken finger in years. She's been sitting under ice, and got splinted as soon as I got home.

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goodknightffs t1_j9a2uxc wrote

Don't put the ice directly on the finger and you should probably go see a pcp

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meetmyfriendme t1_j9927lj wrote

I think it was honorable but totally unnecessary. I think both can be true.

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_Kokiru_ t1_j99feg8 wrote

Only thing “wrong” done was not recording it for the police, and not dialing 911. Also, buy a gun man, you did the right thing to place someone else first. Well done!

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niels1232 t1_j99u1hq wrote

That's the most American thing I've heard this week.

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niels1232 t1_j99u2hp wrote

Meaning the gun part that is.

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_Kokiru_ t1_j9arka5 wrote

Well an itty bitty knife ain’t going to get you an upper hand, especially since most people have a knife on them (especially if you’re the “bad guy”. And in a 2v1 situation whee you’re out bulked, out numbered, and out tooled is never where you want to be. If he had done this at night, or in any other location, he very well may be dead if no one was around to help.

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Vincent_VanAdultman t1_j9huh9y wrote

And if he'd had a gun the chances of someone ending up dead are astronomically higher, instead of a broken finger.
Great advice /s

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_Kokiru_ t1_j9i04rp wrote

Oh noooo. The criminals contributing nothing to society and may have already killed in the past got killed for doing something illegal/attacking someone. What are we going to dooooo?

I don’t care if you die for attacking someone else, especially if they’re there to protect against the illegal activity you are doing.

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ChainmailleAddict t1_j9acj5o wrote

Honestly the situation would've been way easier to resolve with some pepper spray imo.

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_Kokiru_ t1_j9arwsy wrote

Pepper spray doesn’t do anything, a gun gets people off of you, of course you don’t fire unless it escalates and your life is at risk. It’s merely there as a deterrent. Imagine the situation at any other time, and perhaps a different location. He could have been dead man.

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ChainmailleAddict t1_j9av8c2 wrote

Pepper spray doesn't do anything? Really? Maybe if they're on cocaine! I promise unarmed car thieves don't have the fight in them. You don't take out a gun unless you're willing to use it, and so many things could go wrong once you show you're willing to kill them. The best case scenario for everyone is that they stop breaking into the car and go to jail. Non-lethal is the way to go.

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_Kokiru_ t1_j9b0imv wrote

A gun is non-lethal. You aim it and tell them verbally to get away, or on the ground, etc etc. if you aren’t willing to kill when necessary, than you don’t value your life at all, nor the lives of others. This man would be dead in any other situation, but with a gun? At least you can shoot towards em and run, it’s a deterrent, and a weapon, not just a deterrent.

(Also “maybe in on cocaine” you don’t know if any of these guys were past military members, officers, etc etc, who have trained to be able to still preform with your “deterrent”. Don’t place your life in the enemies hands, take it and guard it yourself in situations like these.)

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ChainmailleAddict t1_j9b1f5e wrote

" if you aren’t willing to kill when necessary, than you don’t value your life at all, nor the lives of others. "

Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying that a gun needlessly escalates a situation. What happens if they charge you thinking they're going to die? It was a freaking parking lot with people in it, it's not like it was a back alley where he'd never have been discovered. Even if you DO shoot them, congrats, they didn't have to die and they'd have never been thinking life or death without that gun there in the first place.

My argument is simply that having something like pepper spray will create better outcomes in this particular situation than a gun.

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_Kokiru_ t1_j9b1x8u wrote

Or it would tick off the bear, especially since there are two of them to worry about. These guys were already angry and unreasonable, no criminal is going to rob a car for their life, and these folks don’t seem high, you and I both know he wouldn’t have been beaten up if he had drawn a weapon. I put those words in your mouth, because that’s what your actions in regards to the situation state. Weapons only escalate an already escalated situation. Ie a shoot out. In such a case you run away if given the chance.

(You do also know that shooting someone doesn’t kill them right? That’s why you train with your gun, so you know when to take a life, and when to protect one even if they don’t see it as that.)

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_Kokiru_ t1_j9bxlky wrote

So it isn’t life threatening to be getting your ass handed to you in a 2v1? Brilliant, never be a part of the jury please.

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XCCO t1_j995fyz wrote

My general rule is, if it's just property, it's not worth my health, so I get what you mean with regret. However, I think as a whole, people engage in immoral acts without confrontation or consequence too often. That's why we see posts of police looking for young men who punched an old lady when there were people who could have detained him.

I say, good for those guys for helping you as you were in real danger, but I agree, hindsight tells you, record them, call the cops, give the best descriptions you can so they can face their legal ramifications.

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Derpguycool OP t1_j996qb0 wrote

I have that rule too, but I had my car broken into last year. Nobody should have to deal with that. In other news, do you think Walmart would let me get the video from their security cameras? Would be kind of funny to watch myself get beat up lol!

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GathofBaal t1_j9c6b0s wrote

You have to have the police request the video from Walmart asset protection. Good luck.

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Falconflyer75 t1_j9dhkkk wrote

U should put it online and let the ads pay your medical bills

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heavymetalhikikomori t1_j9beiwh wrote

Absolutely, theres a difference between witnessing someone suffering bodily harm and not doing something, and a crime against property. In DC recently there was a case where a homeowner shot and killed a 13 year old for breaking into cars on their street. It has been decided that he will not face criminal charges, but he does have to live with the fact that he murdered a child for a petty crime.

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-holdmyhand t1_j995mte wrote

>I say quit messing with my friend's car. Mind you, I never met the owner of this car.

You are the Hero we need and deserve.

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Derpguycool OP t1_j996sdd wrote

Had my car broken into last year, nobody deserves that.

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junzilla t1_j999y0h wrote

I don't have a cape like you but I do have a phone with 911 abilities. Hello 911? It's me Karen someone is trying to break into...

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FlyGuy_2000 t1_j9944kl wrote

Props to you for having the moral courage to do the right thing. I would buy you a beer and offer you a bump of cocaine if you lived in my town.

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MisterRioE_Nigma t1_j99jy0j wrote

No bro. DO do that shit. The only reason they did it so brazenly was because they counted on bystanders to stay out of it. When really they need that fear back that someone WILL intervene. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

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Representative_Still t1_j993zx9 wrote

Yeah next time just call the police and record the chaos with your cell phone like a normal person. Does this even need a /s?

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Whane17 t1_j9a3yk5 wrote

As dumb as you feel you did the right thing. Sometimes the right thing sucks but the hope is sometime somebody does the right thing for you.

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Jolo_Jyn t1_j98xcf0 wrote

You're a good person. The world needs more people like you.

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KaiserTNT t1_j9b6300 wrote

Time to start working on cardio, bro. Next time you taunt them and gain aggro you just kite them around the parking lot until the police arrive.

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Derpguycool OP t1_j9b73bw wrote

I did cross country all four years of high school? I've also been lifting for the last 3 years. There were two guys there, one of them was my size. The other was bigger. You're just not going to win a fight like that if you don't have any sort of experience.

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KaiserTNT t1_j9bgrdu wrote

No worries. It wasn't a serious suggestion, just an attempt at some MMO humor.

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Bohottie t1_j9acney wrote

If it’s property, just let it go. You never know when someone is carrying a gun and how crazy they are.

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SpiralOutLL t1_j9bdu5d wrote

You might have taken a dumb decision, but you are badass!

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BeestMann t1_j9d0sqp wrote

It was probably one of those dumb “Kia Boyz” that break into Hyundai and Kias. You did an honorable thing, I only wish you were successful in your endeavor of beating the fuck out of them

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Omikapsi t1_j99iwa2 wrote

No shade on your course of action, and I don't know what you had available at the time, but in that situation I'd just dial 911, and start talking to the guys while you had the operator on the phone. Extra points for standing back and taking a few pictures before dialing.

I'm from Canada though, so that might make a difference.

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Toasterwithashotgun t1_j9alusw wrote

I don't think you fucked up. Even if you got your ass beat you protected that car. You put that car above yourself. Man this is honorable

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baggelans t1_j9chkem wrote

If it makes you feel better you could think that you didn't really fight for the car but you fought for your principles and that you would have really regretted not doing anything instead.

Now does that mean it was smart? Fuck no. You didn't know if they had a weapon or a gun so you might as well have ended up at the morgue instead of lamenting your broken self esteem and finger.
Especially so considering it wasn't your car or anyone's that you knew for that matter.
And it was property damage so it might be covered by that guy's insurance even.

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Dr_Leroy79 t1_j98ufth wrote

What the fuck is a "dad bod looking person"?

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Derpguycool OP t1_j98wxte wrote

Just imagine a stereotypical Midwest dad. Around 6ft tall, heavy set.

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penderhippy t1_j9934xp wrote

>What the fuck is a "dad bod looking person"?

think like an excavator operator

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ohmynards85 t1_j9akumm wrote

Keep a knife with you at all times. That way next time you see some jagoffs like this, you wait until they get to their getaway vehicle then slash their tires.

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Derpguycool OP t1_j9aploy wrote

That goes from an arguable self-defense case, to property damage. In the couple of fights I've been in the past, I never needed a weapon.

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ohmynards85 t1_j9aqkrn wrote

Sounds like you could have used one in this instance.

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Derpguycool OP t1_j9aqsmp wrote

I understand that.

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fozzy_bear42 t1_j9avguv wrote

To be honest, if you’d pulled out a weapon you’d probably be much worse off than a broken finger.

Very little good ever comes from escalating a situation, who knows what sort of weapons the other guys could’ve pulled out.

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ohmynards85 t1_j9arpc7 wrote

Not trying to break your balls. Ita easy for me to sit back and say what I would've done. But, I live in a pretty rough city where crime is rampant, so my response prob deviates from the norm.

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Opivy84 t1_j9ar76o wrote

Ehhhh, I always carry a knife, but sounds like one would not have simplified this situation, considering how it ended.

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ohmynards85 t1_j9arjnu wrote

Right. Easy to armchair quarterback the day after.

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Magic18 t1_j9bkvq1 wrote

You weren't strapped?

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Derpguycool OP t1_j9blfou wrote

Contrary to popular belief, not every American carries a firearm.

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NotNateDawg t1_j99nh6h wrote

nice job batman ☠️☠️☠️ y yt ppl nvr mind they business

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DoYouEvenTIG t1_j9ar2n7 wrote

How about the two pieces of shit that were stealing from the car mind their own business and not steal shit.

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