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Crabrubber t1_jcwclav wrote

Jeez, imagine that guy showing up for work tomorrow morning and finding 50,000 redditors applied for coats of arms tonight.

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winnipeginstinct t1_jcwhl9a wrote

it costs a fuck ton unfortunately, so while some may, its not gonna be that many

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kmn493 t1_jcwwdfg wrote

Look if furries can hand over $5k for a costume, the weirdly patriotic can do the same.

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dragonmyass t1_jcyxmoa wrote

$5k is the low end now. It’s ‘wearable art’ and it has gotten so out of hand…

Some of us just want a $4000 paper bag to fuck in.

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Geniuskills t1_jd0mewg wrote

I learnt a lot from this comment.

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BobRoberts01 t1_jd0tx5i wrote

It appears that grammar was not one of those things .

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Geniuskills t1_jd0ulwx wrote

Thank dog you were here to point that out. You've done a real service to humanity today bobrob.

Hey are you supposed to include a space before the period? Don't you look silly now!

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Belgand t1_jcy0vt8 wrote

Or you can pay any number of SCAdians like $50 to get a coat of arms worked out and described in proper heraldic language.

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nikobruchev t1_jcyw6v2 wrote

Except it's not legally recognized in Canada unless issued by the Canadian Heraldic Authority (CHA) or equivalent governmental body from another country.

A coat of arms is considered part of the Canadian Honours system, so you have to meet a threshold of worthy contributions to Canada as well. You can't just send a cheque and expect to get a coat of arms.

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Belgand t1_jcyxd4a wrote

If they refuse to recognize it, then they are free to meet me on the list and settle this like men of honor.

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BurntToasters t1_jczu8vo wrote

On the ice rink like true canadians

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rshorning t1_jd31tpj wrote

Is that with or without padded armor? You know, like true Scotsmen?

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Rock_man_bears_fan t1_jd0eia9 wrote

What in the European fuck are y’all doing up there? Why do you have a heraldic system?

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nikobruchev t1_jd0hg35 wrote

As a Commonwealth Realm (so not just a Commonwealth country but having a shared head of state through our own monarchy), we derive many of our cultural and honorific traditions from British traditions.

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Best_Call_2267 t1_jd0o536 wrote

The UK has the same thing: College of Arms.

NB: There's not really such a thing as a "family coat of arms". It's a personal one. So when someone says "this is my coat of arms" what they actually mean is: "this is the coat of arms my great-great-great grandad used and I'm reusing"

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swordsmanluke2 t1_jd01fpq wrote

While I agree that 1,000-3,500 is not exactly chump change, it's also within the means of most middle-class families.

To me, "Fuck-ton" usually implies only the very wealthy should even bother to apply.

That said, there's nothing stopping any of us from loading up MSPaint and making our own heraldry. I can make my own "coat of arms" that has pretty much the exact same impact on my life as one from the government.

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OnlyNotWrongTho t1_jd12nhc wrote

My coat of arms is just a a pic of an old Ute with a ‘No root, No ride sticker on the back window, flanked by a body building kangaroo on the left and an axe wielding platypus on the right, on a field of azure.

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SueSudio t1_jcwvwx9 wrote

$5000 isn't a fuck ton. For many it may just mean foregoing an annual vacation.

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publicbigguns t1_jcwwm74 wrote

5k might not be a fuck ton to you, but that's quite a bit of money for the vast majority of Canadians.

It's not skipping a vacation, its having food on the table...

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Beerphysics t1_jcwxb90 wrote

Well, it depends which Canadian sub you're asking this question on. On /r/Canada it's a ginormous unthinkable amount of money. On /r/personalfinancecanada it's what they made last friday.

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publicbigguns t1_jcwxerg wrote

r/wallstreetbets has entered the chat...

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gheebutersnaps87 t1_jcx73ak wrote

Is that subreddit not just dudes who think they are The Wolf of Wall Street, but are actually just regular middle to lower class people who really like Elon Musk?

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Chiss5618 t1_jcxqeqf wrote

It's mixed. The original sub was about making very poor financial decisions

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zouzzzou t1_jcy35pd wrote

The original sub before 2020 was about throwing less than 1% of your money in low probability high paying bets. Nobody back then actually threw everything at a bet, and if someone did, they were rightfully made fun of.

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Makyura t1_jcy3zl6 wrote

No it's just a gambling addiction sub under a pretty guise

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wineandseams t1_jcwyl4r wrote

It's how much is lost weekly on options held with shady brokers.

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sethayy t1_jcxttqs wrote

Fuck dude if I even had 5k in my account I'd be celebrating

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Goodpie2 t1_jcx1n8l wrote

Congratulations on being rich then. That doesn't change that it's a shitload of money for the majority of people.

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creamonbretonbussy t1_jcx2bjn wrote

Lmao that's more than twice as much as my family has ever spent on a vacation

We'd just rent a cheap cabin in a nice place for a few nights and buy some interesting foods and goods from the local vendors.

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SueSudio t1_jcxwxge wrote

If you fly anywhere it is very easy to hit that price.

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JoaoBinda t1_jcx300i wrote

This word “many”, I don’t think it means what you think it means…

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SeaLeggs t1_jcy7t7u wrote

Sorry honey we’re not going on holiday this year, I’ve ordered us a coat of arms from the government instead.

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hreloaded t1_jcxxlmk wrote

>$5000 isn't a fuck ton

Not only that, it isn't even a metric ton (of copper)!

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Drdres t1_jcxc7fk wrote

Anyone choosing a coat of arms instead of a vacation is a psychopath regardless

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SueSudio t1_jcxvml8 wrote

For sure. I'd never spend $5k on a piece of paper like that. But some people might get long term pleasure out of having that to pass down within their family.

A vacation is just a memory once you are back at home.

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merdub t1_jcwoj4w wrote

“In general, eligibility for a grant of arms is based on an individual's contributions to the community, although the exact criteria for grants or registrations have not been published. A number of grants have been made to people who have already been recognized with state honours for their notable achievements, such as through admission to the Order of Canada, and who are accordingly entitled to a grant of arms.”

Lol none of us would be eligible to receive them anyways.

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Similar-Afternoon567 t1_jcwykd8 wrote

From the webpage of the Canadian Heraldic Authority:

>All Canadian citizens and organizations (municipalities, schools, associations, etc.) can contact the chief herald of Canada to have heraldic emblems created for them. A grant of armorial bearings is an honour conferred within the Canadian Honours System in recognition of service to the community.

I can't find the place anymore, but at one time I remember seeing something that suggested that in practice, a university degree was enough to justify a grant of arms. A history of volunteering also helps. Previous honours are not a requirement.

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WastefulWatcher t1_jcwssud wrote

Rather have a knighthood

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SelppinEvolI t1_jcwusqb wrote

Rather have a playboy bunny

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WastefulWatcher t1_jcwye53 wrote

You think those are hard when you have a knighthood?

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TheGreatCornolio682 t1_jcx7j2r wrote

Canadians cannot receive knighthoods, nor any foreign titles.

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rshorning t1_jd3jzv0 wrote

Americans can be knighted, but it must be "honorary" and not confer any actual benefit.

That doesn't stop Canada from issuing its own titles.

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snow_big_deal t1_jcy93ew wrote

>“In general, eligibility for a grant of arms is based on an individual's contributions to the community

Does Reddit Karma count?

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Rayl24 t1_jcx1yms wrote

You can apply but you most likely won't get approved.

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coredump3d t1_jcx5pdi wrote

> A number of grants have been made to people who have already been recognized with state honours for their notable achievements, such as through admission to the Order of Canada

Although possible not always available. Getting OC is a tall deal. Getting a coat of arms is fairly simpler at that point

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Farren246 t1_jcy4f2u wrote

Doesn't matter, none of them are ever filled out anyway. I'm still waiting for my picture of a dead monarch and her husband lol.

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spkdanknugs t1_jcycjez wrote

Yea poor guy indeed probably makes 80-100k federal employee working from home mailing people flags and coats of arms.

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Bloodcloud079 t1_jd1b4hi wrote

I just checked the website says they are under unusual volume and new request wont be treated until may. Yup…

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Nikkian42 t1_jcwcnhv wrote

Per the link anyone can ask but

> In general, eligibility for a grant of arms is based on an individual's contributions to the community

So you are unlikely to get one unless you have done something exceptional.

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DudeDudenson t1_jcwj8ih wrote

Like paying them 10 grand apparently

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gheebutersnaps87 t1_jcx7f3x wrote

I mean that’s going to the government, so it’s basically like a big donation, definitely going to help the community

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hithisishal t1_jcwpgzv wrote

200k karma seems like a pretty decent contribution. Or do you need like 1 million?

Do nudes count?

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letsnotgotoCamelot t1_jczg5g5 wrote

Im working for the Canadian government. You can send your nudes to me and I’ll tell you

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hithisishal t1_jczlxnd wrote

Maybe they would issue me a pity coat of arms after seeing that.

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Similar-Afternoon567 t1_jcwyqmv wrote

Not true. A history of volunteering/community involvement can justify a grant. It doesn't have to be some exceptional contribution.

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etenightstar t1_jcx7nng wrote

In modern times people that have a decent to full history of volunteering and community involvement are usually the exception.

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ouyin2000 t1_jcwbm5m wrote

You can also just ask the gov't for a photo of the reigning monarch. It might take months-to-years to get it.

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obitarian t1_jcwcyxg wrote

Does it come with anything official? Otherwise one could just download it from the Internet.

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ouyin2000 t1_jcwdy85 wrote

It's just a digital portrait. You can have them mail you one on gloss paper, but you'd have to frame it yourself.

Looks like the official website hasn't yet been updated for King Charles. I bet that will change after his coronation. I suppose anything is better than an NFT...

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obitarian t1_jcwegg6 wrote

I wonder if they still send out photos of The Queen, or if now they will just wait until they have an official photo of King Charles.

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pensezbien t1_jcwual4 wrote

I visited the official Buckingham Palace shop last month in England. Approximately everything there is still focusing on the Queen. I expect that to change in connection with the coronation.

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ArbainHestia t1_jcxt7zt wrote

Probably waiting till after his coronation to get him in all the regalia and stuff.

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Codercouple t1_jd02w9n wrote

My new passport still references her Majesty the Queen

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Best_Call_2267 t1_jd0p4rn wrote

She's wearing broaches with Canadian symbols. That means she had to wear different ones for every realm!!

I don't believe in the Monarchy but I still miss her. Feels kind of like a 'national mother'.

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ouyin2000 t1_jd0t3lx wrote

That's kind of the image she portrayed. She was the continuity for the people, regardless of political infighting and disagreements. I can only hope that Charles and his successors live up to that image.

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freewaterfallIII t1_jcx6st0 wrote

I did this. It came as a poster intended to be framed. I didn't frame it. Its a nice glossy picture of queen Elizabeth and I opted for her husband too. They mail it to ya. Free!!

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MyDogJake1 t1_jcx500x wrote

Bill of Rights and Charter of Rights and Freedoms too.

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originalchaosinabox t1_jczi273 wrote

I got mine in a couple of weeks when I did it five years ago.

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Best_Call_2267 t1_jd0pept wrote

Do you hang it pride of place in your home?

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originalchaosinabox t1_jd0r4di wrote

I hung it in a place of pride in my office lobby. Left it behind when they laid me off because of COVID. As far as I know, it’s still there.

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HIS-BUFF t1_jd0tymm wrote

I don’t think they do that anymore, just digital. However, you can get educational historical posters from the government for free

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Seevian t1_jcw9zp3 wrote

As a Canadian, I am very interested in this

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LittleImpact2 t1_jcwfzlc wrote

It’s costs something like $10,000 and takes about 2 years.

Source- my uncle has more money then he knows what to do with and to much time on his hands. The personalize glasswear is cool tho!

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ReluctantRedditor275 t1_jcwwikj wrote

Sounds like an amazing government revenue stream. "Okay, you officially own four yellow stars and two silver stripes on a red field. That'll be $10,000, thank you for your business, and please tell all your stupidly rich friends."

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kieko t1_jcy1eym wrote

I'm in the process of doing one for an organization I'm part of that celebrated its centennial. Our budget is $4K. So it doesn't have to be that expensive.

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Kenny_log_n_s t1_jczw792 wrote

Is the organization an insurance company? :P

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kieko t1_jd011sc wrote

Nope! Local chapter of an HVAC Engineering Society.

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Best_Call_2267 t1_jd0qi50 wrote

The UK College of Arms charges £16k for non-profits. I hope you double-checked the price before you started cos they're counterparts/related . :/

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kieko t1_jd0qpe1 wrote

Counterparts perhaps, but I don’t think they’re related. This goes through Heraldry Canada which is an office under the Governor General of Canada.

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Best_Call_2267 t1_jd0tlcs wrote

Are you a monarchist?

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kieko t1_jd0todb wrote

Why do you ask?

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Best_Call_2267 t1_jd0uder wrote

I've heard stuff about Canadian/American history recently that Canadians were loyalists during the US Revolution. That even loyalist Yanks moved North and the French colonists of Canada were loyal to Britain while the French themselves helped the Yanks. On top of the fact Canada only got full independence relatively late (1860s?)

All quite interesting! Though it feels kind of weird that Canadians (who seem like igloo-Americans) would be loyalist or even Monarchist. Cos Americans seem very, VERY republican.

So I just wondered.

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kieko t1_jd15owq wrote

> All quite interesting! Though it feels kind of weird that Canadians (who seem like igloo-Americans) would be loyalist or even Monarchist. Cos Americans seem very, VERY republican.

Well while it may suprise some (Canadians included) the US and Canada are completely different countries, with completely different histories.

Canada negotiated independence from the British Empire, but maintained a constitutional monarchy. The US formed by 13 colonies who very much did not want to be part of The British Empire, and this occurred almost 100 years previous. The colonies to the north did not chose this path, so its rather unsurprising actually that the country doesn't have the same views as the US on this topic. They specifically chose to retain the crown.

And independence in Canada was incremental. While we were a distinct Dominion in 1867, our foreign policy was still controlled by the UK until just after the first world war (we were brought in because the BE told us we had to go), but by WWII that was Canada independently choosing to declare war in support of the UK.

It wasn't until 1984 that Prime Minister Trudeau (the Elder) patriated our constitution from the UK establishing The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

And with all of that we chose to remain a Constitutional Monarchy. Our head of state is our own (our Monarch is the Monarch of Canada independent of the other realms), though they are represented in country by the Governor General and are mainly a figurehead.

There are flaws, but my opinion is the method we have is better than the republican model the US has adopted and in its current form. Not to say that neither political systems could use improvement. Our system has problems that the US doesn't have, and the US has problems that we don't have, specifically because of these differences. But I would pick our system over the US system any day of the week.

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obitarian t1_jcwd4ih wrote

I'll wait for my letter from King William (or King George). Only 40 more years to go.

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I_might_be_weasel t1_jcwuih5 wrote

They have to be totally out of good ones by now.

"Your coat of arms is a sousaphone with a chinchilla butt coming out of the bell like he dove in head first."

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MonkeysOnMyBottom t1_jcwvam7 wrote

That's dangerously close to my family's coat of arms, a chinchilla butt with a sousaphone coming out of it like it dove in mouthpiece first... Rampant on a field of green

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eriverside t1_jcymx9n wrote

The don't auto generate them, they work with you to design something that represents you.

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talkerof5hit t1_jcw98m7 wrote

My family motto would be:

Too much alcohol is just enough.

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beglele9w1 t1_jcw9zvi wrote

ooks like your family motto and your liver are in a constant tug of war

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artie_pdx t1_jcwal5v wrote

Is this on top of getting a government issued moose at birth for primary transportation? Sheesh… you have it good. Except for them flapping heads.

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CdnBison t1_jcwdb7k wrote

Keep up the wisecracks, and we’ll send a couple of Canadian geese over to ‘discuss’ things with you. 😁

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thisisredlitre t1_jcwm59u wrote

Canada Geese* they belong to the land, not citizens of the nation.

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CdnBison t1_jcx2i15 wrote

The ones I asked said - and I quote - “$&@“ you! The land belongs to us” and started to give chase. I didn’t stick around for the rest of their arguments.

/I do not like cobra chickens

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artie_pdx t1_jcwfg9h wrote

I’ve fought a pack of stray dogs in my day, so go ahead and send a couple of long necked birds.

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LongJohnSausage t1_jcwq12n wrote

Know what you got a problem with Canada gooses you got a problem with me I suggest you let that one marinate!

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Chawke2 t1_jcwdyeh wrote

Anyone with several thousand dollars to burn can apply. They will also only accept your application if you’re someone of some significance.

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Baguirre1 t1_jcx6d5a wrote

If your last name is Western European then you most likely already have one. I’m Hispanic and I have 2 different ones myself. One has shells on it (meh) while the other one is 2 wolves shaking hands at a tree (Waaaay cooler)

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OaksByTheStream t1_jcy6al9 wrote

Yup. A swan and red lions on the first one I saw, which is particularly old and passed down in the family.

Edit: Just took a look for the picture. The crest is actually a swan atop a knights helm, and the red lions are on the shield of the coat of arms. I can't make out the inscription at the bottom of the coat of arms. For anyone wondering, the crest is the bit at the top of the shield(things like helmets, crosses, ships, etc usually depending on what the person did, in order to receive the crest/coat of arms IIRC), and the whole thing with the crest, swirly bits on the outside, and shield with whatever pictures are inside that, is a Coat of Arms.

Coats of arms were only given to aristocracy and people who had done great things to be granted them, at least in the UK. Other places were different.

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Best_Call_2267 t1_jd0swbo wrote

I've got a book somewhere with pics of some of my ancestors heraldry. The only one I can find atm is pretty boring.

just a helmet on top of a shield with a pheasant on top. Some swishy stuff around it. Boring. No lions or other animals. :(

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OldKingCanary t1_jcxitae wrote

I was sure you were full of it but supposedly I do have one. Can't tell if I'm actually related to that branch or if it's just the crest of the city with the same name though.

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HIS-BUFF t1_jd0uwtb wrote

Unless you’ve been granted arms then unfortunately no, you don’t have one. They are not connected to the last name, just the individual

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HIS-BUFF t1_jd0un9k wrote

If you just googled “family name coat of arms” then you probably found a completely made up design that people get scammed into buying.

Coats of arms (in most traditions) are not attached to the last name, but to the individual otherwise everyone with the surname Smith would have the same design. Unfortunately, you most likely do not already have one

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kieko t1_jcy18y5 wrote

I'm in the process of doing this for an organization that I'm part of that just celebrated its centenial.

It's been a bit of a process and our budget for it is ~$4K for a coat of arms.

It's a very interesting/somewhat complicated process. Happy to answer questions if anyone has any.

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LiamB137 t1_jcya5ws wrote

There is also a waitlist to get the flag that is flown at Parliament Hill. The waitlist is really fucking long though.

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stutangg t1_jd1z7fb wrote

I just went to add my name to the list and it literally says “Peace Tower flag (wait time: exceeds 100 years)” same time estimate for other parliament hill flags lmao

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deep6it2 t1_jcwpiuh wrote

Do you get a free info kit for applying that coat of arms to your casket/headstone when the docs give you the final drugs?

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SynthPrax t1_jcwv4tj wrote

TIL Canadians just be doing things.

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TonyClifton2020 t1_jcx2p7n wrote

Some of the more proper amenities arising outta a Monarchy.

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beefstewforyou t1_jcxt7tb wrote

I’m currently in the process of getting Canadian citizenship. I’m going to look into this once I get it.

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Kyletw15 t1_jcx3cx4 wrote

It costs a lot and you actually have to be a prominent figure within your community to receive one

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JameyR t1_jcxfqxz wrote

You can do that in Germany too.. costs around 500€ plus the Design, which must hold certain Standards.

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Fakarie t1_jcwc067 wrote

The spoiled kids who live upstairs.

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dritmike t1_jcwgsd0 wrote

Never had I thought that I wanted to be a Canadian, until now.

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blahblahrasputan t1_jcwzg2n wrote

Used to be able to get a picture of the queen as well. I've just passed my test, probs just get emailed a pic of Charlie's mug knowing my luck.

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siege1986 t1_jcx07b9 wrote

Awesome this will go great with my photo of the queen

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BakingSoda1990 t1_jcygr6h wrote

Yo what? I’m Canadian and didn’t even know that. Gotta share this with my friends so we can all do some shit

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TarikeNimeshab t1_jcyilt4 wrote

Vampire: "Aha! You want a code of, aha! arm, eh?"

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Cavalir t1_jcym1o4 wrote

Here’s the Discworld reference I was looking for. Calm down, Dragon.

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Jimmy_Jazz_The_Spazz t1_jcyq6a9 wrote

I've got my grandfather's coat of arms from efore he went of to ww11. I hang it on my bedroom to remember bin.

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Todesfaelle t1_jcyrcl9 wrote

There's also a place where you can submit your name to take in retired Canadian flags flown at parliament.

I'm on the list and I'm expecting mine in something like 120 years.

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[deleted] t1_jczbtr5 wrote

If the lottery is a poor person tax, this is a rich person tax

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Johannes_P t1_jczxhhy wrote

Makes sense, since Canada is a monarchy.

Though even France still protects coats of arms, especially for families, since it's treated like a family name.

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RealWanheda t1_jcwkj0d wrote

Is there a data base of cost of arms for each last name? Would love to look up what mine looks like based on someone who shares my last name (I’m American so I cannot do this)

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focalac t1_jcx79iq wrote

I mean you can Google “your surname coat of arms” and see what a family with your surname once had. Arms are granted to a specific person so they wouldn’t be yours, obviously.

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Isaacvithurston t1_jcx5d6v wrote

ohh damn i'm going to hop right on that. I want a gryphon with a beaver head surfing a huge wave and playing a classic strat.

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somewhat_random t1_jcx5fs3 wrote

This is quite expensive and you must actually have accomplished something to qualify so for most of us a better route would be to buy a knighthood from Sealand.

https://sealandgov.org/product-category/titles/

I became a Count there several years ago and my son is a knight.

Now you may say that a piece of paper that claims nobility from an arbitrary country may be useless but I fail to see why my nobility is any less valid than those "granted" throughout the rest of Europe.

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McQuiznos t1_jcy35az wrote

Ai is gonna make his job so easy lol.

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gracklewolf t1_jcyt8ws wrote

Dr. Sheldon Cooper and Dr. Amy Farrah Fowler present:

Dr. Sheldon Cooper's Fun with Flags

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jeffyoulose t1_jcwtpg8 wrote

Another job that's easily done now using stable diffusion or chatGPT 4+

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AcidWizardSoundcloud t1_jcxe84w wrote

They're having a hard enough time processing my EI claim from 6 months ago. I don't think my personal flag is high on their list of priorities (for anyone not from here, Covid has our public sector in shambles).

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Greene_Mr t1_jcyewup wrote

...okay, but why can't I claim Canadian citizenship from my Canadian grandfather, anymore?

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imthatguy8223 t1_jcwwpk1 wrote

Maybe they should have had them design a decent flag instead of a fucking leaf

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