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Bonespurfoundation t1_ja9tx7c wrote

Reply to comment by HeadPen5724 in Republicans in Vermont? by rolloofnormandy50

Oh sure, and I’m sure some democrats voted against.

Are you really trying to divorce the Vermont republicans from the national party? I’m a truck mechanic. I’m VERY familiar with Vermont republicans.

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Loudergood t1_jaau8zo wrote

Yeah I used deliver auto parts to mechanics in the NEK. I know exactly the type you're talking about.

Feeling out your position with subtle racist "jokes" because you're a white male too. Luckily, they were in the minority, even there.

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elpvtam t1_jaadgij wrote

I'm sure you interact with plenty of democrats too lol. One thing I love about Vermont is people really don't follow stereotypes.

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HeadPen5724 t1_ja9ydb4 wrote

I don’t think VT republicans are much like national republicans at all. I think many republicans voted for prop 5, which means when it comes to social issues they aren’t outnumbered, they are part of the majority 🤷🏼‍♂️.

I don’t know what your profession has to do with anything…

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somedudevt t1_jaa0c9d wrote

Profession means proximity. If you work manual labor with blue collar coworkers and interact with blue collar folks you are closer to the poor white republicans. This poster is right that much of the VT Republican Party is as shit nuts as the rest of the national party. Republicans make up 30% of our state. 60+% of them are just as idiotic and insane as the national party.

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HeadPen5724 t1_jaaatch wrote

If you work manual labor then you’re closer to poor white republican? I’m not sure you could be anymore offensive or ignorant.

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somedudevt t1_jaadblu wrote

It’s not ignorant. Or offensive. Poor white people skew more Republican than others, and they tend to work lower paying or manual labor jobs. EVERY Republican I know works a manual labor job, they take pride in “working hard” and say that people in office jobs are lazy. They do things like construction, carpentry, landworks, granite shops, mechanics, truckers. It’s not ignorant to be honest and say that those jobs skew more low income, low education, and in Vermont white and that those people make up the base of our Republican Party. Basically people in the “trades”

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HeadPen5724 t1_jaafakv wrote

A.) you need to meet more republicans, or even just look at what the Republican members of the legislature do for a living.

B.) equating manual labor to being poor or white is offensive and ignorant 🤦‍♂️

C.) what percentage of POC work manual labor jobs or are poor in Vt? What % of white people? I don’t think your assertion is even remotely close to being accurate.

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somedudevt t1_jaafzq0 wrote

Policy makers are not average republicans stop being stupid. Pretending that the base of the Republican Party is not poor white non-college educated working class people is moronic. Working manual labor in Vermont means you are white (95% of the population is so fuck off this is a fact) manual labor also pays less than white collar jobs, this is a fact, while some make good money in the trades, on the average a person working construction, or as a mechanic is not making what a person who is a banker, or doctor is making, they tend to be lower middle class.

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HeadPen5724 t1_jaalu5e wrote

You said every Republican you knew worked a manual labor job. Don’t tell me to stop being stupid when you make idiotic comments like that….

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HeadPen5724 t1_jaa1gvy wrote

So 18% of the state is crazy republicans… that leaves a whole lot of normal republicans in addition to right leaning independents that voted for prop 5 and weren’t “outnumbered.”

I don’t think being a truck mechanic is a qualification for political science. It clearly hasn’t helped with understanding how republicans that voted for prop 5 aren’t the same as national republicans 🤷🏼‍♂️

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somedudevt t1_jaadrai wrote

I mean if 2/3 republicans are the nuts ones, that leaves 1/3 of them as not. That’s not a large portion or large number. Spend 10 minutes on a pro 2a Vermont Facebook page, or go to a Republican rally. They are fucking insane (as a pro 2a liberal who thought showing support at the state house was a good idea, I can tell you that they are INSANE!!!)

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HeadPen5724 t1_jaafwjd wrote

Lol… look at a Facebook group? And I suppose you think Reddit is a good indication of political ideologies too people’s opinions too…

You forgot about right leaning independents/centrist, which would make that 18% if the population more of a fringe group. Kind of like progressives don’t represent all democrats…

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HeadPen5724 t1_jaa1u4a wrote

You can’t statistically get above 80% with out a majority of republicans and right leaning Independents voting for prop 5 and clearly that makes them different from many of their national colleagues 🤷🏼‍♂️.

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Bonespurfoundation t1_jaa4t3f wrote

Dude I’m surrounded by Vermont republicans, they despise Bernie, they hate Biden, and they don’t like Phil Scott at all. Every last one of them call Scott a Rino.

Keep fooling yourself.

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HeadPen5724 t1_jaaa164 wrote

Your anecdotal experiences don’t seem to add up to 80+% and you’ve offered nothing else in support. Keep believing I’m the one fooling myself though…

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