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hooliganswoon t1_j5ll19p wrote

Just put a boot in each ticket writer’s trunk, and if they see 3 outstanding tickets already when writing a 4th… just boot too. How fucking hard is it to come up with actual solutions? They need more people to keep doing nothing apparently. This city is run by circus performers.

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SomeLikeItRaw OP t1_j5lm32j wrote

I guess I have no idea how it's done currently but your suggestion makes a ton of sense provided booting is reasonably easy and heavy machinery free (maybe reserving for people with serial moving violations). Having to call someone else to do it is a recipe for futility and waste.

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hooliganswoon t1_j5lmdbl wrote

If I remember correctly, last we heard they have two people, that’s it, who are on booting duty. It’s insanity.

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lmboyer04 t1_j5mmyj5 wrote

If that’s true I saw them last weekend!

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hooliganswoon t1_j5n944a wrote

I was wrong, there’s actually 4 for the whole city apparently. 100% more than I originally thought! Lmfao

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HockeyMusings t1_j5lrhib wrote

Why only boot for unpaid tickets? Should being able to afford it be carte blanche to do whatever the fuck you want?

Get four tickets in a rolling two-year period (paid or not) lose your privilege for a week. Get two more, a month.

The impact of illegal parking is the same. People won’t be so quick to gamble at the meter or the margins of the posted times, that’s for damn sure.

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hooliganswoon t1_j5lwmo3 wrote

Because there’s a difference between delinquency and ADHD. There should also be tiers of parking tickets, like a flagrant violation of parking on the sidewalk or in front of a hydrant, vs an expired meter. I’d maybe agree with you on flagrant violations, but disagree on simple meter violations. I’m also including camera tickets like red lights and speeding in my counting.

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HockeyMusings t1_j5lx8yq wrote

> Because there’s a difference between delinquency and ADHD.

Not as far as the impact goes. Four violations is four inconveniences to every law abiding citizen, paid or not. Hell, twenty paid tickets in the same time frame is far worse than four unpaid, wouldn’t you say?

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hooliganswoon t1_j5m0fre wrote

I’d agree with the last sentiment, just have to find a way to weed out the assholes flagrantly violating vs honest mistakes

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HockeyMusings t1_j5m1ftv wrote

Twenty “honest mistakes” 🤣

You set the threshold at a number. Otherwise booting someone with four unpaid tickets versus not booting someone for ten paid tickets is just spanking them for being poor.

You get four PAID speed camera tickets in a year? Your car is subject to being towed and impounded for a week if a Reddit warrior looks up your license and reports your location. You can come get your car for free after its penalty has been served.

It’d slow people the fuck down for sure; well to do and poor alike.

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hooliganswoon t1_j5m1pet wrote

I’m agreeing that 20 is flagrant… but 4 parking meters in a year is a bit stringent

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missjennielang t1_j5p5363 wrote

If my meter expires the city loses money, if I block a fire hydrant people could die. Not the same impact.

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HockeyMusings t1_j5pgw5x wrote

Hey, we are talking about reasons to boot cars here. That a certain amount of unpaid tickets, 4 as suggested by the post I am responding to) is enough to lock up someone’s car.

All I’m saying is that payment vs non-payment shouldn’t factor into the decision to deny someone access to their car.

If you want to boot a car for four hydrant tickets, fine. But boot all the cars that get four hydrant tickets. Not just the ones that don’t pay.

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SomeLikeItRaw OP t1_j5lxls5 wrote

Yeah I think advocates are interested in it also as a safety measure, by specifically targeting vehicles that have serial moving violations. Or flagrantly bad parking like you mentioned.

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Matt_Tress t1_j5lp4jg wrote

Why boot on 4th? Why boot at all? 4 seems low, but at some point these cars should towed.

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SomeLikeItRaw OP t1_j5lrewq wrote

>why boot at all

If there aren't enough tow trucks you can boot more -> more enforcement plus more deterrence potentially from all the boots blossoming across the district.

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Matt_Tress t1_j5ltrx2 wrote

So…boot then tow? Towing with extra steps?

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SomeLikeItRaw OP t1_j5lvg5a wrote

Because not all boots need end in tows

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Electromasta t1_j5lw9l3 wrote

I think the main issue is that it isn't enough for people to pay fines. The local government and people who actually use the space want cars actually physically moved, depending on the circumstance, of which I'm sure we can both think of many.

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