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DragonflyMon83 t1_jaa788m wrote

Why is everyone hanged up on what china says? While they treat their own citizens like garbage and want Taiwan too?

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Wear-Fluid t1_jaa7rsp wrote

Macron has shown time & again that he is a complete idiot. He is still better than that fascist lady was but... Idiot.

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MarvVanZandt t1_jaaao8v wrote

Replying to Moutch (#2,080,473)

I don’t think they have a grip on the leash as much as they want you to think. Plus no way Russia is trading being US bitch to being chinas. They want to be the one who wags the stick too.

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jimmycoletrane t1_jaabmpi wrote

He's diluting the solution.... stealing Wang Yi and Xi Xi's steam

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DragonflyMon83 t1_jaacatr wrote

Replying to Moutch (#2,080,745)

And China wants to invade Taiwan, fucks over their own people so trying to trust any of them is as bad as ruzzia invading ukraine, not to mention china is thinking about supplying lethal measures to russia in this war and it's not in ukraine's favour. So yeah, both bad as fuck.

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AllomancersAnonymous t1_jaae3b2 wrote

Replying to Wear-Fluid (#2,079,689)

Please explain because all I see is a guy that has been instrumental in getting critical military aid to the Ukrainians.

Remember that France was the number one supplier of military aid to Ukraine from 2014 up to the eve of the current invasion.

The French supplied Caesars are arguably the best artillery system the Ukrainians have short of the HIMARS and have been instrumental in the war.

And then Macron got the snowball rolling on western tanks by pledging the AMX-10...

U mad because he engages in diplomacy at the same time he facilitates weapons to Ukraine?

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Wear-Fluid t1_jaaecc7 wrote

Replying to AllomancersAnonymous (#2,081,548)

He believed Putin when he said he wouldn’t invade & while staying in close contact with Putin suggested that Ukraine give up more land for peace & now this. I know I’m missing a few others but I don’t think they relate to the war.

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J4MES101 t1_jaaewws wrote

Is he helping?

Or just seeking attention.

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MarvVanZandt t1_jaagexi wrote

Replying to Moutch (#2,080,763)

If china sanctions Russia and sides with the west it would be a huge blow to chinas CCP leadership. It would signal/confirm US is in charge which is exactly what they are trying to change. And it would loosen the grip they hold on Asia.

Also Russia could get by, maybe not as long, with the help of India, Iran, North Korea, some African nations. Some South American countries.

So don’t hold your breath for that resolution.

China jumped on the Russian bandwagon thinking they were going to be global disrupters by use of force and coercion to regain global power status identical to US. It’s back firing. Now they are trying to save face and pretend they are in control. When really they never were and just thought Russia would hold up its end of the bargain.

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macross1984 t1_jaaj9x3 wrote

All I can say is I am leery of relying on another non-democratic leader to be mediator to end the war.

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Background-Bed7249 t1_jaanixo wrote

It's so obvious China wants a seat at the table. They see Russia collapsing this summer. They don't want the West taking over Russia.

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whitehusky t1_jaaw1qi wrote

Replying to Wear-Fluid (#2,079,689)

But what he’s doing here is (1) calling their bluff, and (2) playing “good cop” which is what France’s role almost always is with Russia and China. He’s basically telling China - “You want to end the war? Great. So do we. Go tell Russia to stop attacking Ukraine, and the war will be over and you will have helped the West.” Everyone knows China can’t do that, so… calling the bluff. It’s a smart strategy, and closer to what Ukraine itself is doing, because it’s a win/win. Either China doesn’t stop Russia, in which case China is called out for their hypocrisy on the world stage, or somehow they achieve the impossible and get Russia to pull out of Ukraine, pay reparations etc.

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der_titan t1_jabkbgr wrote

Replying to Kitchen_Pride6726 (#2,088,546)

>Why can't China stand on Ukraine's side?

Because China benefits if Russia and NATO countries waste money and resources fighting one another. Most of the world outside Europe view the war as a local one, and there's little appetite to go out on a limb for Ukraine.

Moral arguments tend to ring hollow in many ears when western military aggression in Asia, in Africa, and in Latin America have been going on for decades.

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DNA1987 t1_jabst4l wrote

Replying to Wear-Fluid (#2,079,689)

He is weirdo with a massive ego. I wouldn't say he is idiot, he is serving his own interests. He once said france should stop keeping nukes, that there was no need and it was to expensive to maintain. He was for dismentelment of our nuclear facilities, maybe in favor of russian gaz ? Hight enery cost in europe, he play his part of it with half of our power plan shut down for "maintenance" right when the war started. We used to sell cheap electricity to Eu, now we need to import it from coal :) Lots of Eu politicians are bribe by russian gaz lobby. He is somewhat friend with putin, they went in holiday together before the war. Russians are buying some key nuclear maintenance companies in France. There is so much stuff going on that the news are not covering, this will probably start a few scandales when he stop been president.

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Ok-Class6897 t1_jabv1vg wrote

If China warned Russia, Russia would stop the war.

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EifertGreenLazor t1_jae1v2c wrote

Replying to DragonflyMon83 (#2,081,039)

If you look at the history of the government of Taiwan, China had been gaining favorability until recently. Their plan may have been akin to getting the government on their side to eventually annex Taiwan. Hong Kong protests changed those plans drastically.

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