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kokopilau t1_jd0f8ha wrote

Send everything from everywhere all at once

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ianjm t1_jd0ievj wrote

Send in Michelle Yeoh!

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Scaevus t1_jd20s59 wrote

"Some of you have asked me if using Michelle Yeoh is a war crime. Legal has reassured me that no, the Geneva Conventions cover armed conflicts of an international nature, not an interdimensional nature. May God have mercy on the Russian invaders, because Michelle won't."

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pikachu191 t1_jd4f339 wrote

With hot dog fingers? Or the universe where she and Jamie Lee Curtis are lesbian lovers? Or the one where she and her husband never get together and become successful, but are lonely?

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akaasa001 t1_jd3g71r wrote

Ive really got to see that movie, Idk if it is just super hyped or is it really that good?

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Snotling_fondler t1_jd3r76r wrote

Your tits cannot be possibly jacked enough, it is the best film I've ever seen by a large margin. It is very unique but that's what makes it so good.

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akaasa001 t1_jd54ovs wrote

haha, thanks man I will def give it a watch this weekend.

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Feeling-Ad-2490 t1_jd4lmoi wrote

"All your artillery shells are belong to us to defends us against the assholes"

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[deleted] t1_jd0c68v wrote

Ukraine: we desperately need more ammunition now, we use 350,000 shells per month.

EU: we promise to send you a 3-month supply within the next 12 months.

Ukraine: ...

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lacumbre_11 t1_jd0ksuz wrote

Was about to ask what does this mean in the grand scale..... oh I see.... not much

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Cold_Refrigerator_69 t1_jd1zqox wrote

How many does the EU actually have on hand that isn't their critical supply

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Turmfalke_ t1_jd2a2ms wrote

Not many, but more importantly we don't have much production capacity, which is the real bottleneck. A major war fought with artillery was deemed unlikely.

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carpcrucible t1_jd27755 wrote

Not many, but we

  • don't need them if Ukraine uses them to fuck russia up
  • could've started the procurement immediately and not waited a year
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HappyAmbition706 t1_jd34xbd wrote

To be fair, not too many could predict that Ukraine would still be there 2 weeks in. And Afghanistan was fresh in mind, or South Vietnam.

Production at the rates that Ukraine uses, needs and will need when they go back on offence isn't something that can be kept up during peacetime, nor maintaining the unused capacity to do it when there is not such war or buyers.

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VastFair8982 t1_jd4x0nt wrote

2 weeks in? They could have done it 6 fucking months into this thing and this wouldn’t be a problem.

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PrrrromotionGiven1 t1_jd2guzx wrote

The only countries that even need a critical supply are the ones bordering Russia

And I guess France probably will insist on reserving some in case of tomfoolery in Africa

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IlluminatiMinion t1_jd2dzaa wrote

The EU isn't the only place suppying shells. There are massive amount coming in from other countries too.

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Clean_Judgment912 t1_jd2uwlc wrote

Now what is clear is that Ukraine is leading an oldfashioned mechanised all arms war with high ammunition use. The EU tries to help but it is not really the organization to deliver ammo to deliver the Ukrainian demands. It would be much better if some countries like the US or Germany would put some factories up to equip Ukraine.

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carpcrucible t1_jd275db wrote

Clarification

EU: We talked about it for a year while you were dying for your country and

>EU: we promise to send you a 3-month supply within the next 12 months.

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[deleted] t1_jd2b2dr wrote

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carpcrucible t1_jd2gr8v wrote

How? That's what happened.

Do people not realize that this is literally a matter of life and death? Like, it's no joke. The political will is nowhere near where it should be to achieve the lofty promised goals of securing sovereignty and territorial integrity.

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trailingComma t1_jd2mph5 wrote

Do you realise that these are gifts freely given and that spitting in our faces for it isn't a good way to get more?

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carpcrucible t1_jd2x8cd wrote

I'm not spitting in our face, I'm pointing out that it took us a year to agree to get started to ramp up shell production. It was clear from the first months that the rate couldn't be sustained. But in good bureaucratic fashion, spent a year doing what exactly.

We can't go to Kyiv to do photo-ops with Zelensky and talk about how we'll ensure Ukraine's security and then not actually take the steps necessary to achieve that. If we aren't actually committed, it's better to push for a ceasefire then.

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Vulture2k t1_jd28xgy wrote

Isnt it kinda sad that all those shells of both sides will land on their country? :/

so much damage done..

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not saying they shouldnt have them, of course they should.. its just.. sad.

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BadReview8675309 t1_jd2h7th wrote

It is a little mind boggling how many metric tons of iron now cover parts of Ukraine... After the war scrappers will have cheap unlimited recyclable product for many years.

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Vulture2k t1_jd2hml2 wrote

more worried about duds they will find for many many years. i imagine its not as bad anymore as in ww1 and ww2 but many countries that participated in the world wars still find duds to this day during construction work or agriculture.

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OceanIsVerySalty t1_jd2it3a wrote

France still has areas you can’t go into because of the unexploded ordinances. It’s not just a few duds that pop up now and then, there’s areas so peppered with them that people can’t safely use that land.

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RNBQ4103 t1_jd3iwva wrote

Finding ordnance is still common in Belgium, France and Germany.

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Vulture2k t1_jd3j05c wrote

That's what I said. Or at least I tried.

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RNBQ4103 t1_jd3mdq2 wrote

I had the impression that your comment was not showing the actual scale of the problem (closing a city center because a 500kg bomb was found is still barely news).

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autotldr t1_jd0db0j wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)

> EU defence and foreign ministers backed an initiative aimed at providing Ukraine with one million artillery shells in the next 12 months as well as replenishing EU stocks during a meeting held in Brussels on Monday.

> Ukraine had told the EU it wants 350,000 shells a month to help its troops hold back Moscow's onslaught and allow them to launch fresh counteroffensives later in the year.

> Ukraine became the world's number three importer of arms in 2022 after Russia's invasion triggered a big flow of military aid to Kyiv from the United States and Europe, according to Swedish think-tank SIPRI. The US Department of State also announced on Monday that the US will send Ukraine $350m in weapons and equipment, including various types of ammunition, such as rockets, and an undisclosed number of fuel tanker trucks and riverine boats.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Ukraine^#1 ammunition^#2 defence^#3 industry^#4 Minister^#5

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odc100 t1_jd0c2gh wrote

I’ll contribute if you let me write a message on one.

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danudey t1_jd1amm4 wrote

“Backers who choose this tier will be able to choose one message (ten words or less) to write on their artillery shell.“

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IWASJUMP t1_jd21fvw wrote

Hungary did not veto? Wow

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Infamously_Unknown t1_jd25d1o wrote

It's a voluntary initiative joined by 17/27 members + Norway. Hungary had nothing to veto, they're just not a part of it.

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ShakespearIsKing t1_jd2r8gs wrote

Thank god, those fuckers need to be cut from as many processes as possible.

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oceansofhair t1_jd2d2op wrote

Great news! Artillery is still the most critical armament in this war. It's the only short-term answer to Russia's larger man power.

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Buntisteve t1_jd30la1 wrote

Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

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oripash t1_jd27yno wrote

EU:

Hey Russia: Catch!

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Hot-Delay5608 t1_jd34xjq wrote

Russia will destroy every single one of those shells ... until they run out of bodies and vehicles

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ishmal t1_jd10utw wrote

The more the better. But it would be even better if they quit fighting WW1 with artillery and trenches. It's time to break out and start racing overland as if it were the 21st century.

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AlkaliPineapple t1_jd1n1f1 wrote

Trench warfare actually still exists in modern warfare. Trenches and huge minefields were used in Iraq and Afghanistan by both sides. This is the first war since WW2 where neither side has the overwhelming advantage unlike Russia back in 2014, so the war was bound to become static

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