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The_Food_Scientist OP t1_iycwszc wrote

Reply to comment by peterpeterpeterrr in Letter bomb explodes in Ukranian embassy in Madrid by The_Food_Scientist

I guess, happened two hours ago. The embassy is scheduled to make a press release. Who knows how it got through. There were no casualties and the man suffered the explosion got out in his own feet and was sent to the hospital.

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Yoda--29 t1_iycx0cy wrote

Casualtiy means dead or wounded. So there was a casualty.

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BKStephens t1_iyczum6 wrote

"One employee, who was handling a letter, was hurt in the blast according to Spanish Police.

He suffered light injuries went to hospital under his own steam, the force added."

The article never mentions a casualty.

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deletable666 t1_iyf23y2 wrote

Google what causality means.

*Casualty

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VanquishedVoid t1_iyf34pr wrote

> Google what causality means

causality

noun

The principle of or relationship between cause and effect.A causal agency, force, or quality.That which constitutes a cause; the activity of causing; the character of an event as causing.

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BKStephens t1_iyf2ko1 wrote

casualty noun (INJURED)

a person injured or killed in a serious accident or war

Serious being the operative word here.

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deletable666 t1_iyf332y wrote

Lmao. You are a trip dude. Doubling down instead of just admitting you were confused. Take care fellow. Bless your heart

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BKStephens t1_iyf3ofv wrote

If you read the full thread you can quite clearly see where I admitted my confusion and what it was about.

It was not about what "casualty" means.

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deletable666 t1_iyf3x8m wrote

Clearly you still have some confusion on what a casualty is, and there is no reason for me to read through all your other replies to other comments I am not involved in.

Take care, goodbye

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BKStephens t1_iyf4qkb wrote

No confusion. I even Googled it like you advised, and put it right there for you to read.

Or is there no reason for you to read through all my replies? Even if they're directly to you?

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wrosecrans t1_iyfc8rd wrote

In the phrase "serious accident" the adjective serious modifies the noun accident.

Are you saying somebody accidentally sent a letter bomb?

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teaklog2 t1_iyfd6lv wrote

Going to jump in and argue the grammar here specifically, in an ‘or’ statement like that the ‘serious’ can also modify both things being listed.

‘i want to buy a red car or truck’ does not imply you want a red car or any colored truck

‘an accretive merger or acquisition’ - doesn’t imply you don’t care if the acquisition is accretive or not

unless you are saying if you want to say ‘I want to buy a red car, table, blanket, and shirt!’ you should instead say ‘i want to buy a red car, a red table, a red blanket, and a red shirt!’

if you want to remove that assumption from your sentence, you could instead say ‘a truck or a red car’ or ‘a red car or any colored truck.’

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wrosecrans t1_iyfejq3 wrote

In that case, the reading is that a wartime casualty can only happen in a "serious war," and someone killed in a minor border conflict wouldn't count as a casualty. Is that a reasonable reading of the definition?

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Additional_Share_551 t1_iyd4suq wrote

Modern use, casualty exclusively means dead. No one uses casualty to mean no longer fit for battle

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Yoda--29 t1_iyd4wzk wrote

Look up the definition of casualty.

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coldblade2000 t1_iyd6pc0 wrote

> Modern use,

Not really, like at all. Casualties have always been people injured or killed, not just killed.

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KrackasaurusRex t1_iyd5gba wrote

a : a military person lost through death, wounds, injury, sickness, internment, or capture or through being missing in action The army sustained heavy casualties.

b : a person or thing injured, lost, or destroyed : VICTIM the ex-senator was a casualty of the last election

From Merriam-Webster

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Brian_Lafeve_Jr_ t1_iydeimg wrote

pluralcasualties

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a

: a military person lost through death, wounds, injury, sickness, internment, or capture or through being missing in action

The army sustained heavy casualties.

b

: a person or thing injured, lost, or destroyed : VICTIM

the ex-senator was a casualty of the last election

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: serious or fatal accident : DISASTER

losses from fire, storm, or other casualty J. S. Seidman

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archaic : CHANCE, FORTUNE

losses that befall them by mere casualty Sir Walter Raleigh

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Lucavii t1_iyeffkz wrote

What? Bruh, people die a lot less in the military now than in the past. It means both but we actually get MORE use of the word describing injured soldiers than killed ones

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UShouldntSayThat t1_iyel45v wrote

No one ever has used casualty to exclusively mean dead. If you've been listening to news reports that say 80k Russian casualties in the current war and assumed that meant how many are dead, you've been mistaken.

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deletable666 t1_iyf29k2 wrote

That is exactly how it is used in the modern context actually. And same with older contexts.

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CrieDeCoeur t1_iydywu9 wrote

It’s almost like the words that make up languages are living things that evolve over time. /s

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