It’d be funny if they kept him.

China needs to pay for what Americans put into their own bodies

Is it the drug dealer or the drug user that is the criminal?

Theirs so many criminals its hard to keep track anymore, even a suit and tie cant differentiate them anymore.

Stop making Fent and start making MXE again. It's only fair.

I sure hope no one in China is still pissed about that time the west got nearly their entire country hooked on heroin... cuz I can imagine that might be sort of a sticky point if it comes up.

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> The United States is "Actively seeking to reengage" China on counternarcotics, including stopping the flow of illicit synthetic drugs like fentanyl into the U.S., said the State Department ahead of Secretary of State Antony Blinken's visit to Beijing in early February.

> "Though its past action has helped counter illicit synthetic drug flows, we do hope to see additional action from the PRC - meaningful, concrete action - to curb the diversion of precursor chemicals and equipment used by criminals to manufacture fentanyl and other synthetic drugs," State Department spokesperson Ned Price told VOA this week.

> While Beijing is no longer a major source of the synthetic opioid flowing to the United States, U.S. officials said Washington continues to see Chinese-origin precursor chemicals being used in illicit fentanyl production and other illicit synthetic drugs.

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Source?

Do you really need a source for that? There were 2 wars fought over the issue.

Opium Wars

>The Opium Wars (simplified Chinese: 鸦片战争; traditional Chinese: 鴉片戰爭 Yāpiàn zhànzhēng) were two conflicts waged between China and Western powers during the mid-19th century. The First Opium War was fought from 1839 to 1842 between China and the United Kingdom, and was triggered by the Chinese government's campaign to enforce its prohibition against opium trafficking by British merchants. The Second Opium War was waged by Britain and France against China from 1856 to 1860.

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What's MXE?

Both.

Hey, Blinken

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Did you say Abe Lincoln?

Meth-Xanax-Ecstasy, the ultimate Friday night

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I don't think that's a training problem, my friend, that's a lobbying and corruption problem.

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China: This is my own private domicile, and I will not be harassed

And grammar criminals too?

About as likely as America deciding to not help Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion on the basis of being pissed about that time the east bombed Pearl Harbor.

so...150 something years ago if the bot is correct? Damn talk about holding a grudge. Then again maybe china WONT be sore about it if they find out we can just do it again...and this time around they won't be able to do much about it.

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Methoxetamine. It was made in China but was banned. Its similar to ketamine.

No I didn't say Abe Lincoln I said hey Blinken! Hold the reigns man

He's a Blinken beacon.

I imagine that the CCP is doing it intentionally and this is part of the reason why.

Assuming the CCP is our friend is dumb.

The only solution is to tell them to stop, or we stop exporting energy and food to them and they can starve.

Focus on Mexico

So long as I can order a vial of "research" chemicals from China I can order fentanyl. This is a problem with how the US makes it so easy to buy such chemicals and import them. If the government had any balls, they'd just restrict such imports entirely except to accredited institutions and licensed pharmacists. It'd shove it all into an underground black market, but it's already a grey market and it can start a discussion about decriminalizing possession and focusing on distribution instead.

Revenge for the opium wars in full swing. They have a long memory.

Yeah actually most of China is still very pissed about the centuries of disrespect the west showed them when they were to weak to do anything. You’re talking about a country with a very Long view on time going backwards or forwards

My grand daddy didn't storm the beaches of Normandy for this.

Waltuh: "I'm something of a pharmacist myself"

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that's no longer the main issue. It was 20 years ago, but now it is a china->mexico->us pipe killing 100k annually

if we really want to put brakes on this there has be some consideration that would cause china or mexico to do something, or some direct action against those doing the smuggling

Literally halfway to blinkerton

I guess we can just blame the Chinese for being dumbasses and getting addicted to heroine a bit ago, mr Asian first?

Opium War Three, the Re-opiuming.

No way. China banned something that they could profit off of while trying to destroy the West? Don't believe it.

>or we stop exporting energy and food to them and they can starve.

Couldnt they just import energy nd food from somewhere else? Not to mention the pushback from the respective food nd energy sectors which would hurt politically (since the trade deficit with China likely went up cus u killed exports) esp with 2024 elections so close.

If we decriminalized possession we'd have to fuel our prison industry with some other widespread crime. Maybe make driving 5 over the speed limit into a felony with a three strikes rule; third time you're 20 to life.

I mean, those corporations gotta profit right? They employ like literally a million prison guards, and if we stopped feeding people into the machine all those guards would be out a job.

Luckily between the cartels, the pharmacies and the for-profit prison corps there is plenty of money to bribe congress with and a majority of corrupt congress critters right now. We won't have to worry about winning the drug war any time in the near future.

I'm surprised more countries haven't gone the way the UK did and passed deeply flawed legislation against everything psychoactive (with exceptions for some preexisting stuff).

Despite it theoretically outlawing stuff like incense, it doesn't seem to have been abused so far.

It is still a problem. I had a major surgery in 2020 and coming out of it my options for painkillers were opiods or nothing. I chose nothing and am not an addict today because of it.

You think 150 years is a long time to hold a grudge? Hahaha you sweet summer child. Ask the Irish how they feel about the potato famine, or the English about the French in general, or indeed pretty much any European country about pretty much all of their neighbours.

…bitch

I think the fentanyl trade will pressure the US to legalize certain drugs.

yeah it is offered too easily for stuff where tylenol and/or ibuprofen would be serviceable. But the illicit fentanyl is where the bulk of the body count is coming from this year

Why would a pharmacist even need research chemicals unless they were in academia?

That you don't remember.

No Malarkey will be tolerated.

Ketamine would be more likely to fix the west than ruin it..

Interesting how those in power getting hit with fent drugs

That wasn't America.

Just like the west need to pay for what the chinese put in their bodies during the opium war?

It's funny. They claim the British pushing opium was unethical.

And then when they have the chance they do the same exact thing. Hypocrites.

Nah more like payback

That was Britain. Not ‘the west’.

Thought the EU mostly had their issues worked out? Plus another commenter said china hates the west for "picking on them when they were too weak to do anything about it" as if the only reason china isn't strong right now is cause of the west. It's like they don't understand if they get caught off, they collapse basically on the spot. It's in their best interest here to just let something like the drug wars and what not go if they really want to prosper.

Nope. The EU as a whole has major tensions historical and current, and always will. That doesn't stop them working together when necessary but can be a little awkward. It's like an ex you've got serious history with - kids and shared property, say. Most of the time you're civil to each other, every so often it gets bitter and horrible for a while but you always manage to grit your teeth and get a working relationship going again because it'd just be disastrous if you didn't. Britain is currently sulking in the corner though sent some apology flowers to get everyone to help out their neighbour Ukraine. It's all fun and games until it turns vicious.

So then if what the British did was wrong, then what china is doing is wrong too.

But they don't see it that way? Hence the definition of hypocrisy.

The Americans wernt even involved in the opium war numb nuts. Send the fentanyl to England.

Just block chynese exporters from doibg business, watch them come running

China won’t stop. They know this goes on but they’re perfectly happy to let it continue. Anything which causes disruption in America is good from their POV.

So much nationalist hate in the comments here. Forgive me for no sauce but many experts have found the best solution is for America to decriminalize drugs and educate the population on drug safety.

It's convenient to have totally omitted ww2

Best comment ever.

Another "Chinese bad"

China actually put the entire fentanyl class of drugs under control back in 2018, on the eve of a trade war. At Trump's request.

The problem is that the demand for illegal fentanyl in the United States still exists, so India began to export large amounts of fentanyl to Mexico for Americans to smoke, in fact, Americans can now smoke illegal fentanyl on the market are basically Indian goods.

But why not go to India to talk? You see, there are two kinds of anti-drug, one is the real anti-drug, and one is to say "China is bad" in the name of anti-drug

>虽然北京不再是流向美国的合成阿片类药物的主要来源，但美国官员表示，华盛顿继续看到源自中国的前体化学品被用于非法生产芬太尼和其他非法合成药物。

Guess what, India is actually the number one supplier of fentanyl to the United States.

But it's easier to say "China bad", right?

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A drug Classification means nothing. Here is a map you can check for origins. China is still the largest exporter of illicit Fentanyl

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Yeah well things happened fast after that. Kinda spoiled the happy feelings.

Nations don’t give a fuck about right and wrong. Just in the interest of or opposed to.

You mean a soviet proxy civil war attempt which installed Mao whom only a few years later caused the great family which killed 55 million people?

The only spoiled feelings after that I imagine is the CCP officials knowing you picked the wrong side

That would foil china’s plan

Ok, sucks for you. Some nations at least try to stand up for their values, even if not all the time successful.

No. The US is the largest producer of food in the world

This is illegal fent trade, not "research" chemicals

>No. The US is the largest producer of food in the world

US is third behind India and China in terms of production. US is top in terms of exports, but its not like those all go to China which is geographically pretty far.

So is it the start or the continuance that is the enemy?

Lol no they don’t.

Do you know why the entire food chain is disrupted right now? Ukraine. And they do not hold a candle to the US exports.

If the US were to cease food production (exports), the entire comforts you know will cease to exist, regardless of the country you live in

>If the US were to cease food production (exports),

Presumably, the US wouldnt cease exports to all countries if its beef was with China and drugs. In fact, doing so would greatly strengthen China on the diplomatic stage since the US just pissed off almost every1 due to. The Hardest hit would be the pooerer countries like in Africa and Latin America which are also the countries China is trying to woo.

>entire food chain is disrupted

Not to mention the huge domestic issues from basically wrecking a huge portion of its export industry and all the jobs and families it would affect. The current opposition (Republicans) would pounce on this claiming the Dems basically destroyed tons of Jobs, starved a ton of poor countries, and raised the Trade Deficit. The Dems could basically kiss 2024 and likely 2026 good bye.