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TurkeyLuver t1_j5pa14u wrote

Reply to comment by NeurodiverseTurtle in Swiss medicine sales to Russia hit 30-year high by BezugssystemCH1903

Shouldn’t you be mad at western governments for exempting medicine then? Seems like a logical exemption to me.

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NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j5pau1v wrote

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. (Regarding selling medicines)

This is only about profit and appeasement.

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TurkeyLuver t1_j5pbzk6 wrote

And people dying without medication. You forgot about that.

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Ayylmaothoughyaknow t1_j5r4mb8 wrote

Russia could leave? That’s literally what sanctions are: turning the screws on a country so that there’s no war and the government still has to choose between their people/economy/etc and continuing the action that invited the sanctions.

Everyone freaking out over this but have no problem with sanctions that reduce the food in the mouths of the youth i affected countries. It’s the same thing and still the most peaceful path.

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TurkeyLuver t1_j5r4ubf wrote

The goal of the sanctions isn’t for everyday Russian people to die. Which sanction is killing people?

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NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j5pd5op wrote

Russia is engaged in a war of aggression, the Russian people will pay the price for that as long as they remain in Ukraine. You forgot about that.

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fuqqkevindurant t1_j5qvn55 wrote

So you prefer the outcome in which more people die and face lifelong health consequences? Totally not sociopathic at all

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Turtlehead88 t1_j5r1eq1 wrote

Don’t bother. America good. Russia bad. Any more thought than that will give them a headache.

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Ayylmaothoughyaknow t1_j5r51p2 wrote

They want the Russian leadership to be disposed of or choose their people over their greed. If they will not choose their people and kin over greed and corruption then the Russian populace must topple them. Every Russian going about their day making money for the state and propping up the country directly leads to dead Ukrainians. If they don’t want to face the consequences of profiteering from belligerency then they should hold their leadership accountable.

You don’t get to repeatedly punch someone in the face then call yourself a victim when no one wants to help you up when you fall.

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TurkeyLuver t1_j5pfn9y wrote

Did the people in charge of the sanctions forget?

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NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j5pgecy wrote

Dude, however you try to deflect and ‘whatabout’ this, it doesn’t change the fact that the Swiss have decided to do business with a terrorist regime.

If it was a charitable donation for no profit, then it would be different. It would still be frowned upon, but it wouldn’t be as reprehensible.

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TurkeyLuver t1_j5pgxcb wrote

They’re doing business with the patients. You crying about their government doesn’t change that fact. You crying about profits ignores that to get medicine involves an exchange of money.

Fake outrage.

Or just say that you want the Russian people to go without medicine if that is your opinion.

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NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j5pitil wrote

No one is crying here, except you. No one is outraged here, except you.

People just aren’t happy that the Swiss are profiting from trade with Russia. Calm yourself.

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TurkeyLuver t1_j5pn93i wrote

Everyone making medicine is profiting off the Russians.

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NeurodiverseTurtle t1_j5pql30 wrote

No they aren’t, medicine manufacturers typically don’t choose who the end user is, they just manufacture and sell to distribution companies.

And most other countries aren’t selling the Russians medicine, as evidenced by Russia experiencing medicine shortages.

You’re not great at making convincing arguments. Anyway I’m done here, there’s nothing left to be said.

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TurkeyLuver t1_j5pqymr wrote

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

> While prescription drugs are exempt from Western sanctions imposed over the war in Ukraine, their delivery to Russia has been hit by transport, insurance and customs hurdles caused by the war and other restrictive measures, industry figures say.

It’s not people choosing not to sell to them.

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Turtlehead88 t1_j5r19nm wrote

Imagine all the insulin manufacturers stopped selling to Russia and a bunch of kids died. Do you think that is a net benefit?

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